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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 28, 2021 23:10:57 GMT -5
Trying to figure out what I have. It is a Peterson's X105 but has "Superior" on the shank below Peterson's. I've not found any references to a Peterson Superior. Any thoughts?
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 28, 2021 23:18:07 GMT -5
Have you tried Petersonpipenotes.org? It’s usually my go-to for all things Peterson’s.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 28, 2021 23:40:12 GMT -5
@meercat might know.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 28, 2021 23:48:33 GMT -5
Have you tried Petersonpipenotes.org? It’s usually my go-to for all things Peterson’s. Didn't find any references to "Superior" there either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 0:53:35 GMT -5
Trying to figure out what I have. It is a Peterson's X105 but has "Superior" on the shank below Peterson's. I've not found any references to a Peterson Superior. Any thoughts? I have not heard of the 'Superior'. I can't tell much from that photo - is that a foil-stamp 'P' or a metal inlay 'P'? Also, what is the stamping on the other side of the shank;e.g-'Made in the Republic of Ireland'?
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 29, 2021 10:55:54 GMT -5
Have you tried Petersonpipenotes.org? It’s usually my go-to for all things Peterson’s. Didn't find any references to "Superior" there either. Strange... if you look at all the various links on the Peterson page one should direct you to every pipe (and info) the company has made. I would think yours is in there somewhere.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 29, 2021 11:19:58 GMT -5
Maybe it's just a shop stamp?
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 29, 2021 11:57:39 GMT -5
I noticed the name Peterson is spelled 'Peterson's'. Not Peterson which is what you see on Peterson pipes. Nor is it in their logo design. I wonder if it is a different brand altogether?
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 29, 2021 12:41:03 GMT -5
I noticed the name Peterson is spelled 'Peterson's'. Not Peterson which is what you see on Peterson pipes. Nor is it in their logo design. I wonder if it is a different brand altogether? Good point. Plus something doesn't look right about the "P" on the stem, but it's hard to tell because of the glare.
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Post by sparks on Jan 29, 2021 13:15:49 GMT -5
The spelling is a dead giveaway. It's not a Peterson pipe. Likely a shop pipe for a Peterson's Pipe Shop is my guess.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 29, 2021 23:28:01 GMT -5
I'll get some better photos tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 10:19:00 GMT -5
I keep checking back for clear photos
The 'P' logo on the stem is fine, block letters is fine and the spelling of Peterson's is fine - I have probably 120 Peterson pipes at the moment, and many examples of all three. I also double-checked for examples of all three in my collection, as well as in Irwin's book.
So we're back to 'Superior'. I'll send Mark Irwin a link to this thread.
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Post by jay on Jan 30, 2021 12:48:08 GMT -5
Pipe mysteries...always fun to try and solve.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 16:34:50 GMT -5
Pipe mysteries...always fun to try and solve.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 16:37:13 GMT -5
I keep checking back for clear photos
The 'P' logo on the stem is fine, block letters is fine and the spelling of Peterson's is fine - I have probably 120 Peterson pipes at the moment, and many examples of all three. I also double-checked for examples of all three in my collection, as well as in Irwin's book.
So we're back to 'Superior'. I'll send Mark Irwin a link to this thread.
Here is the right side. Has "Made in" over "Ireland". Sorry for the mis-info, but says "Supreme" not Superior.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 16:39:15 GMT -5
Has what I believe is called the P-Lip bit
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 16:41:34 GMT -5
I keep checking back for clear photos
The 'P' logo on the stem is fine, block letters is fine and the spelling of Peterson's is fine - I have probably 120 Peterson pipes at the moment, and many examples of all three. I also double-checked for examples of all three in my collection, as well as in Irwin's book.
So we're back to 'Superior'. I'll send Mark Irwin a link to this thread.
Sorry, it is "Supreme", not "Superior". Fault of a 65-year old brain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 16:47:44 GMT -5
I keep checking back for clear photos
The 'P' logo on the stem is fine, block letters is fine and the spelling of Peterson's is fine - I have probably 120 Peterson pipes at the moment, and many examples of all three. I also double-checked for examples of all three in my collection, as well as in Irwin's book.
So we're back to 'Superior'. I'll send Mark Irwin a link to this thread.
Sorry, it is "Supreme", not "Superior". Fault of a 65-year old brain. Thanks. I suspected it was a 'Supreme', but didn't want to contradict anyone, as I'd already done so three times I emailed your info to Mark Irwin, and he responded back that if we saw clearer photos, it would probably show 'Supreme'. That's a superb pipe - Peterson's top of the line. I only have one 'Supreme', and the grain and craftsmanship are fabulous. Peterson only did the metal inlay 'P' on their very best pipes, and you certainly won't find even a touch of filler. These days the Supreme has either a silver or gold band, but the "PETERSON'S" stamp in caps is 1950's, per Mark, and the 'Made in Ireland' stamp (no 'Republic') supports this. Great find!
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Post by urbino on Jan 30, 2021 16:59:12 GMT -5
Congrats, Jeff. Sounds like you did well.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 17:46:14 GMT -5
Congrats, Jeff. Sounds like you did well. That's a relief. I paid $125, so I assume that is a fair price for a Supreme.
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Post by urbino on Jan 30, 2021 19:55:54 GMT -5
Congrats, Jeff. Sounds like you did well. That's a relief. I paid $125, so I assume that is a fair price for a Supreme. I would think a Peterson from their flawless, flagship line sells for a pretty penny.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 20:06:13 GMT -5
Found a history of Peterson that said the "Made in Ireland" in block letters was used from 1947-49.
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 30, 2021 21:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 22:24:50 GMT -5
As the saying goes, even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. I guess I wasn't totally blind as I knew Peterson made good pipes and I hoped the Supreme stamp meant it was something good. But I had no idea is was over 70 years old. Almost afraid to smoke it now.
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Post by Yohanan on Jan 30, 2021 22:39:53 GMT -5
Congrats, Jeff. Sounds like you did well. That's a relief. I paid $125, so I assume that is a fair price for a Supreme. Well worth what You paid, Congrats!!! Smoke that Motha!!!
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 30, 2021 23:22:19 GMT -5
I just wanted to thank meercat and the rest of you for helping out. I've learned a few things from this thread.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 31, 2021 9:42:11 GMT -5
Just when I think it's all figured out. The Peterson web site says they began using "Supreme" in 1953. "Made in Ireland" was 1947-49. Yet, here is a pipe with both.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 31, 2021 10:23:32 GMT -5
That is a nice find, Jeff!
Congratulations on the addition to the family.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 14:27:45 GMT -5
Found a history of Peterson that said the "Made in Ireland" in block letters was used from 1947-49. Hate to contradict people again, but I've seen that as well, and it's a flawed date range. I have many Petersons that do not follow the various 'Ireland' stamp date ranges. For instance, I have a 'Made In Ireland' stamped pipe that has a 1976 hallmark. The various stamps were around for many years after they supposedly (according to internet Peterson histories) were no longer used, and there was nothing to stop a pipe-maker from using whatever stamp he wanted. You can often match up silver hallmarks with stamps that don't make sense according to the dating guidelines. In particular, 'Made in Ireland' was often used at the same time as 'Made in the Republic of Ireland'. $125 was a great price.
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 31, 2021 17:41:45 GMT -5
Found a history of Peterson that said the "Made in Ireland" in block letters was used from 1947-49. Hate to contradict people again, but I've seen that as well, and it's a flawed date range. I have many Petersons that do not follow the various 'Ireland' stamp date ranges. For instance, I have a 'Made In Ireland' stamped pipe that has a 1976 hallmark. The various stamps were around for many years after they supposedly (according to internet Peterson histories) were no longer used, and there was nothing to stop a pipe-maker from using whatever stamp he wanted. You can often match up silver hallmarks with stamps that don't make sense according to the dating guidelines. In particular, 'Made in Ireland' was often used at the same time as 'Made in the Republic of Ireland'. $125 was a great price. Thanks! All good to know.
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