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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 11, 2021 20:51:19 GMT -5
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 11, 2021 20:59:56 GMT -5
Looks like the previous owner was smoking ½ bowls. Why ream it at all?
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 11, 2021 21:04:11 GMT -5
If you’re concerned about aesthetics , I’m sure a deep clean and ream will do the trick.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 11, 2021 21:06:05 GMT -5
Looks like the previous owner was smoking ½ bowls. Why ream it at all? Just wasn't sure if I was seeing the cake cracking or scorching of the briar itself, I haven't done much on the estate side of the house over the years. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2021 21:12:16 GMT -5
I prefer to do a thorough clean and ream when getting an estate pipe.
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Post by lizardonarock on Mar 11, 2021 21:13:08 GMT -5
Sand all the way down and pipe mud. cigar ash and spit.
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Post by rdpipes on Mar 11, 2021 21:21:13 GMT -5
I personally don't see any real concerns sir, I'd just sand the chamber with 220 making sure not to touch the rim
with the paper and smoke it. If there are visible cracks after sanding and you still have concerns a bowl coating should take care of them.
You know where I live.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 11, 2021 22:09:55 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I took a little 220 to it, this is what I'm seeing now:  Keep sanding? Or fill it with mud? |
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Post by urbino on Mar 11, 2021 22:15:53 GMT -5
I can't tell if I'm looking at cake, or bowl.
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Post by puffy on Mar 11, 2021 23:00:45 GMT -5
I can't tell if I'm looking at cake, or bowl. My guess is Cake |
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Post by urbino on Mar 11, 2021 23:14:20 GMT -5
If that's the case, Jason, you don't need to do anything at all. Smoke away.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 11, 2021 23:17:00 GMT -5
Yeah, smoke it.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Mar 12, 2021 5:59:54 GMT -5
I wasn't sure what I was looking at, either. The after sanding pic makes it somewhat clearer. I'd smoke it--so maybe you shouldn't!
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 12, 2021 7:01:51 GMT -5
Looks like cake to me. Why were you (and others) thinking of using pipe mud? Is the draught hole too high?
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 12, 2021 7:48:13 GMT -5
Looks like cake to me. Why were you (and others) thinking of using pipe mud? Is the draught hole too high? I was thinking maybe the cracks were char in the briar, that's why I figured I better ask the group before proceeding, didn't want to load it up and burn through the side of the bowl. However, it seem unanimous, tonight I'll give it the bourbon scrub, tomorrow, I'll smoke it. |
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 12, 2021 8:24:23 GMT -5
Let us know how well the pipe performs please.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 12, 2021 8:36:44 GMT -5
Let us know how well the pipe performs please. Will do sir! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 12, 2021 8:59:40 GMT -5
Looks like cake to me. Why were you (and others) thinking of using pipe mud? Is the draught hole too high? I was thinking maybe the cracks were char in the briar, that's why I figured I better ask the group before proceeding, didn't want to load it up and burn through the side of the bowl. However, it seem unanimous, tonight I'll give it the bourbon scrub, tomorrow, I'll smoke it. Ahh, sorry. That makes sense if they were cracks in the briar. |
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Post by mrlunting on Mar 12, 2021 10:58:54 GMT -5
Even after sanding there seems to be a blemish in the pot. Not sure if it is cake or previous filling. Hopefully it's cake. You'll know after the bourbon scrub.
It's a beautiful pipe, best of luck!
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 12, 2021 10:59:05 GMT -5
Looks like cake to me. Why were you (and others) thinking of using pipe mud? Is the draught hole too high? I was thinking maybe the cracks were char in the briar, that's why I figured I better ask the group before proceeding, didn't want to load it up and burn through the side of the bowl. However, it seem unanimous, tonight I'll give it the bourbon scrub, tomorrow, I'll smoke it. There is some light charring and cracking, nothing out of the ordinary and why I would never recommend reaming down to bare wood. If it were my pipe I'd fill and seal the cracks with a light slurry of pipe mud let it dry then coat the bowl.  |
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Post by peteguy on Mar 12, 2021 15:16:35 GMT -5
Having cleaned hundreds of bowls that look identical or very similar to yours I agree with davinlax. If you go further you will create a valley inside the bowl where the fissures are. My opinion is they are a weakness in the briar that is exposed to heat (may not even be hotter than normal as it is so common). Some cake is there as well that doesnt help with the fissures. I believe these are known as spider webbing from days gone by.
To fill the spider webbing I mix up the paste of old ream dust and whiskey. I apply with a knife, popsicle stick, etc., anything with a good edge that is small enough to get in there. I have even used my finger in a pinch. All you are trying to do is fill the fissures. After it dries you can lightly sand to make it look better if you want but it wont effect the smoking ability. It is all just aesthetics anyway. You could smoke it now and just be careful until a cake builds up and the results will be the same.
Many people seem to treat their pipes as if they are fine china. You are putting fire to wood, shite gunna happen when those two mix. Smoking should be enjoyable not a big stressor. Keep your pipes clean and enjoy.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 12, 2021 15:27:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I don’t ream to bare wood, I stop just before getting there and proceed with a dowel and sandpaper.
When you have uneven caking on opposing sides, you can remove some good wood.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Mar 12, 2021 15:32:48 GMT -5
Put me in the "ya won't really know till ya ream it camp" before you'll know if that's indeed cake or if it's been mud'd before. Either way you'll know and can then proceed accordingly.
2nd the comment on mud. I've found that cigar ashes work best for me, but others may have another opinion. Be sure to put a nail or pipe cleaner through from the shank into the bowl before you mud. Don't wanna clog up yer draught hole.
(just my $0.02)
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Post by urbino on Mar 12, 2021 20:25:37 GMT -5
Looks like cake to me. Why were you (and others) thinking of using pipe mud? Is the draught hole too high? I was thinking maybe the cracks were char in the briar, that's why I figured I better ask the group before proceeding, didn't want to load it up and burn through the side of the bowl. However, it seem unanimous, tonight I'll give it the bourbon scrub, tomorrow, I'll smoke it. If it burns out, I was never here. |
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 12, 2021 23:10:49 GMT -5
I appreciate all the feedback. I think to play it safe, I'm going to go ahead with the bourbon and pipe cleaners, then go ahead and mud it, let it dry, then smoke it slow for a bit. Just rather err on the side of caution with this particular pipe, I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 12, 2021 23:29:01 GMT -5
The inside of the pipe looks like the pits are just in the cake. I have had pipes that looked worse and I have never had to mud one. I still say just smoke the danged thing.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 13, 2021 12:10:28 GMT -5
The inside of the pipe looks like the pits are just in the cake. I have had pipes that looked worse and I have never had to mud one. I still say just smoke the danged thing. I thought it was just me that saw the same thing. |
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 13, 2021 13:03:32 GMT -5
Having cleaned hundreds of bowls that look identical or very similar to yours I agree with davinlax. If you go further you will create a valley inside the bowl where the fissures are. My opinion is they are a weakness in the briar that is exposed to heat (may not even be hotter than normal as it is so common). Some cake is there as well that doesnt help with the fissures. I believe these are known as spider webbing from days gone by. To fill the spider webbing I mix up the paste of old ream dust and whiskey. I apply with a knife, popsicle stick, etc., anything with a good edge that is small enough to get in there. I have even used my finger in a pinch. All you are trying to do is fill the fissures. After it dries you can lightly sand to make it look better if you want but it wont effect the smoking ability. It is all just aesthetics anyway. You could smoke it now and just be careful until a cake builds up and the results will be the same. Many people seem to treat their pipes as if they are fine china. You are putting fire to wood, shite gunna happen when those two mix. Smoking should be enjoyable not a big stressor. Keep your pipes clean and enjoy. Thanks Pete and daveinlax for the education. Great stuff fellas! 😁👍 |
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 13, 2021 16:43:14 GMT -5
I erred on the side of caution. Gave it thorough scrubbing, mixed a little mud and filled in the cracks with a light coat, only took 5 minutes anyhow. Tonight, I'm smoking it.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 13, 2021 23:03:09 GMT -5
And the verdict is in, it's a fantastic smoker!
Edit: I want to thank everyone for their input on this. 10 years into this and I have waited most of that time to get my hands on this particular pipe. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't going to shoot myself in the foot.
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