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Post by djo on Mar 20, 2021 22:15:17 GMT -5
Right now, I have two tobaccos in my rotation that have a similar cut. Symphony and Old Dark Fired Ready Rubbed. They are cut pretty much the same way, but one is classed as
"broken flake" and the other as "ready rubbed." What's the difference?
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 21, 2021 1:25:35 GMT -5
They’re the same thing in my opinion. A pain in the arse to prepare.  |
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Post by urbino on Mar 21, 2021 1:36:55 GMT -5
I think they can end up being very similar, but maybe are arrived at by different processes.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Mar 21, 2021 4:47:00 GMT -5
I think they can end up being very similar, but maybe are arrived at by different processes. Yes. Some RR is tinned as a near ribbon, some nearly a broken flake, with most somewhere in between. My ODF RR is closer to broken flake. I never had Symphony, but I remember VA #1 as being closer to a Cavendish cut, ribbons with a few layers of leaf stuck together. After I had tried a few flakes and liked them, I bought McC Blackwoods Flake and was disappointed when I opened the tin to find flakelets. The disappointment was short-lived, however. Tobacco is like a box of chocolates, and all that malarkey. |
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 21, 2021 8:44:58 GMT -5
Seems to me you’ve got three great answers so far. 😁👍
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Post by thewingedsloth on Mar 30, 2021 9:45:22 GMT -5
Ready rubbed can be useful when travelling or where time and space to prepare a bowl are limited.
I like rubbing out my own flakes/plugs/etc as I can manage how the bowl is loaded and the pace that it burns.
A lot of flakes seem more flavorful when left a bit chunky. The concentration of flavors change as chunks and loose pack burn at different rates.
Some flakes go wonky if I leave them chunky but do not let them set in a bowl for a bit. Nothing worse than soggy chunks in a bowl.....
So while there are some advantages to both types my tastebuds like it when I do the rubbing.
Good luck finding your best method!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 12:32:50 GMT -5
I like broken flake - it's easy enough to prepare and smoke, but not always as easy as ready rub, which requires nothing but stuffing in the bowl. KBV Byronic Fragments is a good example - I just dump a little in my hands, rub it just a touch, and start smoking. I don't dislike ready rub, but I prefer the chunky little pieces that broken flake turns into as it burns. On the other hand, I can't think of any other broken flake I smoke regularly, so my sample size precludes usefulness of my opinion  |
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Post by urbino on Mar 30, 2021 21:15:54 GMT -5
I like broken flake - it's easy enough to prepare and smoke, but not always as easy as ready rub, which requires nothing but stuffing in the bowl. KBV Byronic Fragments is a good example - I just dump a little in my hands, rub it just a touch, and start smoking. I don't dislike ready rub, but I prefer the chunky little pieces that broken flake turns into as it burns. On the other hand, I can't think of any other broken flake I smoke regularly, so my sample size precludes usefulness of my opinion Never stopped anybody before.  |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 30, 2021 21:41:37 GMT -5
I prefer flake over ready rubbed, i do not think I have any "broken flake" I figure that broken flake is tinned as such because thet do not pass muster in regards to Flake package presentation.
Ready rubbed is for those that don't want to rub it out.
i like flake because it seems (at least to me) easier to monitor it through the aging process, Rubbing out a tobacco is pretty easy, but I am a traditionalist.
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Post by sparks on Mar 31, 2021 9:41:35 GMT -5
I have always viewed ready rubbed as exactly that, fully rubbed out flake, with maybe a few broken flakes intermingled.
Broken flake to me has always been flake that are too delicate to maintain flake form, so they are slightly "broken".
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 31, 2021 13:42:00 GMT -5
I have always viewed ready rubbed as exactly that, fully rubbed out flake, with maybe a few broken flakes intermingled. Broken flake to me has always been flake that are too delicate to maintain flake form, so they are slightly "broken". I agree. I've assumed ready rubbed started as a flake and got fully rubbed out. Broken Flake could be the chunks that fell off or were broken into smaller pieces of flake. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 13:49:42 GMT -5
I have always viewed ready rubbed as exactly that, fully rubbed out flake, with maybe a few broken flakes intermingled. Broken flake to me has always been flake that are too delicate to maintain flake form, so they are slightly "broken". Exactly my thoughts. I've found 'broken flake' that was as much flake as some blends described as 'flake'. I could give examples, but after a disturbing ebay message exchange, I've proclaimed the rest of today as "Don't ruffle any feathers Day". |
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 31, 2021 18:04:04 GMT -5
I’m blaming all this bad karma on COVID. Way too much drama going around everywhere.
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Post by Silver on Mar 31, 2021 18:30:24 GMT -5
Whether its ready-rubbed or broken flake (Sometimes it's hard to distinguish. Sometimes "Flake" looks like broken flake), I tend to rub it out completely anyway. Just what I like to do. YMMV.
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