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Post by booknpipe on Jun 7, 2021 20:39:16 GMT -5
The recent threads concerning the future of tobacco sales has me thinking. I don't have a 'cellar'. I have a half dozen or so open tins, a couple unopened ones and 7 pint mason jars filled with my own 'homebrews'. I usually only smoke one bowl per day during the week and maybe 2-3 on the weekends. I'm 60 and figure I'll maybe make it to 80 (my family history is littered with men who died in their 40's). How much tobacco do I need to procure and store? A quick internet search seems to indicate most bowls hold 2-3 grams. At 28g per ounce that's about 10 bowls per ounce so an ounce should last me about a week. 52 ounces a year x 20 years is 1040 ounces or roughly 65 pounds? I know some people have huge stashes but that just sounds ridiculous to me. Buying a pound a week for a solid year would only get me about 3/4's of the way there (and would require a level of explaining to my better half that I don't have the skills for!). What's a guy to do? It seems like the height of denial to pretend that tobacco will always be available at reasonable prices and just go on buying a few ounces at a time. It's quite a dilemma for the 'average' pipe smoker.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 7, 2021 21:06:21 GMT -5
“ How much tobacco do I need?”
Whatever suits you based on where you are at in life. You are certainly not a heavy smoker, but from what I see on the horizon, I would still buy four or five tins per month to stock up on what may not be available in the future. Regardless, it is a good hedge against inflation.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Jun 7, 2021 21:19:20 GMT -5
I haven't really worried about a cellar over the years, always just ordered what I wanted, when I could. But with costs rising, I've been starting to put more and more stuff away. 65 pounds may be more than you need, but it couldn't hurt to have 20 or so. It's really what you feel comfortable with.
And then there is the added bonus of digging around and finding a well aged tin a few years down the road.
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Post by rokerdepipe on Jun 8, 2021 6:45:40 GMT -5
You asked, so now you're going to get. My late pipe smoking mentor and I were having this discussion via email. I'm pasting what he had to say about "slots". You'll probably have to read and re-read some of this, but if you work it out it makes sense. Some of us are doing our cellaring wrong!
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Post by fadingdaylight on Jun 8, 2021 7:14:46 GMT -5
You asked, so now you're going to get. My late pipe smoking mentor and I were having this discussion via email. I'm pasting what he had to say about "slots". You'll probably have to read and re-read some of this, but if you work it out it makes sense. Some of us are doing our cellaring wrong! Quite an interesting read, and a sensible system for anyone trying to map out their cellar in advance, thanks for sharing that!
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jun 8, 2021 10:40:53 GMT -5
About 65 pounds is what I would suggest for your age. I'm 78 and have about 65#'s...should last me for the rest of my life.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 8, 2021 14:53:10 GMT -5
I'm 70 and I have about 50 pounds, of which I only expect to smoke about 20 if I'm lucky.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 16:14:32 GMT -5
How much tobacco do I need? My answer to anyone asking that question is: "More than you have." P.S. I may have a problem. My wife certainly thinks so.
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Post by kbareit on Jun 8, 2021 18:36:13 GMT -5
According to Slot logic which seems to be a good system. At 6 bowls per day I go through 54 slots per year and if I make it to 70 I will need at least 202 1/2 lbs of tobacco. I have roughly 250 lbs cellared now so the question is if I need to plan to live past 70 and add at least another 100 lbs should I make it to 80?
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Post by JimK on Jun 14, 2021 10:15:41 GMT -5
Oh boy....I'm a whole other case, I guess. I buy tobacco by the ½ lb. and it lasts about a month to six weeks, depending on the season. Being lazy about ordering refills, I go without until the new stock arrives. I've thought lately I should have a tin or two held in reserve until the new shipment arrives.
I don't cellar any reserves. It sounds like an interesting idea, though.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Jun 14, 2021 15:01:54 GMT -5
I'm 70 and I have about 50 pounds, of which I only expect to smoke about 20 if I'm lucky. No problem, just send me the other 30 and I'll take good care of it for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 15:28:06 GMT -5
You are approaching a potential retirement age, which means you might smoke more once retired than you do now. You might just start smoking more in the near future, regardless of the retirement factor. Prices keep going up and they are increasing more frequently than they did just 5 or six years ago. That's another factor to consider in the sense that it can be a good motivator to think ahead by buying more now and save some money on future purchases. I would conclude: you should go with more than what you think you need.
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Post by rdpipes on Jun 14, 2021 17:38:25 GMT -5
How much do you want?
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Post by rdpipes on Jun 14, 2021 19:16:08 GMT -5
I'm 70 and I have about 50 pounds, of which I only expect to smoke about 20 if I'm lucky. No problem, just send me the other 30 and I'll take good care of it for you. Closet guy gets there first, sorry Jason! LOL!
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Post by Gypo on Jun 14, 2021 19:19:57 GMT -5
No problem, just send me the other 30 and I'll take good care of it for you. Closet guy gets there first, sorry Jason! LOL! let's hope that Ron lives to smoke it all!
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Post by rdpipes on Jun 14, 2021 19:55:47 GMT -5
Closet guy gets there first, sorry Jason! LOL! let's hope that Ron lives to smoke it all! He will, he's too ornery to die before he does.
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Post by kxg on Jun 14, 2021 21:34:46 GMT -5
The recent threads concerning the future of tobacco sales has me thinking. I don't have a 'cellar'. I have a half dozen or so open tins, a couple unopened ones and 7 pint mason jars filled with my own 'homebrews'. I usually only smoke one bowl per day during the week and maybe 2-3 on the weekends. I'm 60 and figure I'll maybe make it to 80 (my family history is littered with men who died in their 40's). How much tobacco do I need to procure and store? A quick internet search seems to indicate most bowls hold 2-3 grams. At 28g per ounce that's about 10 bowls per ounce so an ounce should last me about a week. 52 ounces a year x 20 years is 1040 ounces or roughly 65 pounds? I know some people have huge stashes but that just sounds ridiculous to me. Buying a pound a week for a solid year would only get me about 3/4's of the way there (and would require a level of explaining to my better half that I don't have the skills for!). What's a guy to do? It seems like the height of denial to pretend that tobacco will always be available at reasonable prices and just go on buying a few ounces at a time. It's quite a dilemma for the 'average' pipe smoker. Slots notwithstanding, I believe your basic calculation is spot on. When you run the numbers, it is surprising how much tobacco you need to cellar if you want to lower the risk of inflation and potential regulation. I’ve a similar calculation built into my cellar spreadsheet so I can tell at a glance my cellar longevity. Now if I could just figure out my longevity!
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Post by qmechanics on Jun 15, 2021 16:02:35 GMT -5
How much tobacco do you need booknpipe ? Hmm Hmm …..Well that is a loaded question. Seeing that you are asking a bunch of addicts, I mean enthusiasts, how much of their drug, I mean leafy goodness, do they need, I find this quite amusing. The reality is who else can we go to, about our fix, except fellow users? Sorry that came out wrong...... Let me try again..... Who else should a refined pipe smoker go to, when he or she has a pipe related question, other then his or her brothers/sisters of the briar and leaf? The slot method is a good idea rokerdepipe , though an individual's self appraising calculation, going by personal experience, size of pipes etc., is also beneficial. However, who said one could not modify the slot approach, by one's experience, and make a nice tighter personalized system? Still what can you say about the other elephant in the room? Bad boys Bad boys what your going to do? What you going to do when she (the wife) comes for you? Hard to say, though honesty and stealth mode are two basic approaches when dealing with the wife/significant other. The first, means explaining to your wife the benefits of smoking a pipe like: your enjoyment, the reflection, relaxation and the calming influence pipe smoking brings (Hmm Hmm dare one say health benefits), the cost (Tobacco is not getting any cheaper) and a promise to not spend too much but just enough to prepare the family for the future and retirement etc. The second, well three words should suffice: Secret Credit Card (Known as the SCC to those in the club), Secret Bank Account (SBA …) , Under Table Cash (UTC…), New Utilities Bill (NUB...) ,Unforeseen Car Repair (UCR… Now here if you are handy with car/truck repair, you can take the vehicle to a shop, get an estimate and work on it yourself. Then simply pocket the difference (Estimate-Parts=) and/or store it in your SBA or pay off your SCC.) etc. to get around the wife. Now I would not recommend following the latter approach, though it has been done by others. Who are these “others”? They lurk in the shadows, are here in this forum and have decent size cellars. But at what cost? Well these poor souls can be seen puffing away, wondering when the wife will find out, with deep circles under their eyes and worry on their mind. After a while, they become paranoid and/or loose their grip and the wife gets more suspicious. Then she confronts him and well at that point it can go many different ways, typically leading to either forgiveness and/or mercy or lawyering up… *1 Yes building a cellar is hard work…… *1 One might notice no mention of the other scenario, a pipe smoking wife and her husband.... Do I really have to comment on that one? I mean….
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Post by urbino on Jun 15, 2021 17:43:49 GMT -5
50% more than one has. That's all I know.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 16, 2021 3:30:37 GMT -5
I buy one tin a month, and I think that'll do me until I die (considering I would smoke a pipe, on average, about 3-4 times a month.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Jun 16, 2021 11:48:29 GMT -5
I buy one tin a month, and I think that'll do me until I die (considering I would smoke a pipe, on average, about 3-4 times a month. That's coming up some for you isn't it? Before you know it, it will be daily.🤪
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 17, 2021 10:20:45 GMT -5
I buy one tin a month, and I think that'll do me until I die (considering I would smoke a pipe, on average, about 3-4 times a month. That's coming up some for you isn't it? Before you know it, it will be daily.🤪 Maybe during retirement.
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 17, 2021 12:07:14 GMT -5
I'm not very scientific about calculating how much I need. I have a lot in my cellar and I'm not buying anymore. Just smoking it at this point.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jun 17, 2021 23:14:16 GMT -5
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