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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 15, 2021 23:52:21 GMT -5
I just saw one in 35 Whelan. Drool 🤤. About as big-bore as I would ever want, with my back. Ditto! |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 16, 2021 7:38:56 GMT -5
My Ruger #1 has that mag capacity limitation, too.
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 13:30:41 GMT -5
My Ruger #1 has that mag capacity limitation, too. Ha. |
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 14:11:02 GMT -5
I have not seen that. All my 6.5 ammo came from Czech Republic. I managed to take a not entirely terrible pic with my phone:  No replies to this one. Am I wrong? Would that not be considered a flat-nosed bullet? I'm no expert on anything centerfire. (Or rimfire, either, but at least I spent a lot of time shooting a .22, growing up. We didn't own anything centerfire, unless you count a shotgun.) |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 16, 2021 15:36:23 GMT -5
I managed to take a not entirely terrible pic with my phone: No replies to this one. Am I wrong? Would that not be considered a flat-nosed bullet? I'm no expert on anything centerfire. (Or rimfire, either, but at least I spent a lot of time shooting a .22, growing up. We didn't own anything centerfire, unless you count a shotgun.) It looks like normal factory ammo. I would call it a round shoulder. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 16, 2021 16:26:55 GMT -5
I'd call that a "round-nose soft-point." Flat-point is a term used mostly for handgun ammo. It used to be thought that such a round-nose bullet performed better shooting through brush or other minor woodland obstacles. That myth has been debunked. Intended for small European deer maybe? Seems a strange choice for such a light bullet.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 16, 2021 18:28:14 GMT -5
I'd call that a "round-nose soft-point." Flat-point is a term used mostly for handgun ammo. It used to be thought that such a round-nose bullet performed better shooting through brush or other minor woodland obstacles. That myth has been debunked. Intended for small European deer maybe? Seems a strange choice for such a light bullet. It's a FMJ. Probably why it's available. Still good for coyotes. |
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 19:37:54 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. I'm still learning. No replies to this one. Am I wrong? Would that not be considered a flat-nosed bullet? I'm no expert on anything centerfire. (Or rimfire, either, but at least I spent a lot of time shooting a .22, growing up. We didn't own anything centerfire, unless you count a shotgun.) It looks like normal factory ammo. I would call it a round shoulder. Interesting. Don't think I've heard that term before. |
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 19:42:50 GMT -5
I'd call that a "round-nose soft-point." Flat-point is a term used mostly for handgun ammo. It used to be thought that such a round-nose bullet performed better shooting through brush or other minor woodland obstacles. That myth has been debunked. Intended for small European deer maybe? Seems a strange choice for such a light bullet. I think of a round-nose as being more of a standard parabola shape. Like a .30-30 or .22lr. Figured this must be something different. Wouldn't "soft-point" imply, I dunno, unjacketed lead or something? Something that would more easily deform on impact than the rest of the projectile? |
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 19:43:43 GMT -5
I'd call that a "round-nose soft-point." Flat-point is a term used mostly for handgun ammo. It used to be thought that such a round-nose bullet performed better shooting through brush or other minor woodland obstacles. That myth has been debunked. Intended for small European deer maybe? Seems a strange choice for such a light bullet. It's a FMJ. Probably why it's available. Still good for coyotes. Or culling the paper target population.  |
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 19:53:29 GMT -5
Well I'll be deep fat fried. Just appearing in my email is a notice from Midway that they have Lapua 155-gr Soft-Nose in stock. There's no pic of the actual round on their site, though. Just the box, which doesn't seem to have a particularly soft nose. Whichever end the nose would be.
Midway's prices are notably higher than the other place I found some 6.5x55 in stock.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 16, 2021 19:59:13 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. I'm still learning. It looks like normal factory ammo. I would call it a round shoulder. Interesting. Don't think I've heard that term before. It's a common term for lead bullet shapes, which greatly outnumber jacketed bullet designs. Except that there is no lead version of the Woodleigh Hydro-Stabilized bullet. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 16, 2021 20:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by urbino on Jun 16, 2021 20:28:32 GMT -5
Hey, that's handy. Like turbotin, only for noisy stuff. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 16, 2021 21:57:00 GMT -5
Duh! I should read the box, which clearly says FMJ. I was going by your photo which I took to show a soft-point. I shall now go out and see if I can find some worms.
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Post by urbino on Jun 27, 2021 22:18:14 GMT -5
Picked up the Hawkeye today. I haven't fired it yet, but everything seems very well machined and fitted. Locks up tight, etc. The dimensions really suit my frame, too. On first contact, at least. We'll see. There was a guy there buying a pistol who grew up in the city and knew nothing about hunting or hunting rifles, etc. Really nice guy. Lots of questions, some of which I couldn't answer, but the counter guy had those covered. The idea of being able to shoot effectively at 400-500 yards kinda blew his mind.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 27, 2021 22:55:43 GMT -5
Sounds like a nice smokepole, Urb!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 28, 2021 0:25:36 GMT -5
Picked up the Hawkeye today. I haven't fired it yet, but everything seems very well machined and fitted. Locks up tight, etc. The dimensions really suit my frame, too. On first contact, at least. We'll see. There was a guy there buying a pistol who grew up in the city and knew nothing about hunting or hunting rifles, etc. Really nice guy. Lots of questions, some of which I couldn't answer, but the counter guy had those covered. The idea of being able to shoot effectively at 400-500 yards kinda blew his mind. Congratulations. I have never seen a badly machined Ruger. I had a 77 Model 77 RL that was sweet. Nothing like a 30s Mauser 98 though. |
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Post by urbino on Jun 28, 2021 1:08:39 GMT -5
Thanks. It really does have very elegant, slender lines. Almost girlish. I think I'm going to enjoy it. Spotted something else while I was there, too. They were selling Beretta APXs for $375, which was just too darn good to pass up. That's budget-brand money for a Beretta. Maybe they're about to stop production on them or something, since they didn't really catch on for whatever reason, and stores are blowing them out of inventory. I dunno. But for $375, geez, I felt like I stole it. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 28, 2021 8:27:06 GMT -5
I have eight Ruger 77s. All primo machines. Congrats!
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Post by toshtego on Jun 28, 2021 9:24:19 GMT -5
I had one Ruger 77 in .25-06 with a 6X Nikon. Sweet rifle.
A friend coveted it for so long, I finally just about gave it to him in a unequal trade. He is more of a hunter than I am now. So, what is the point of leaving the gun in a safe unused and untouched?
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 28, 2021 9:27:26 GMT -5
Thanks. It really does have very elegant, slender lines. Almost girlish. I think I'm going to enjoy it. Spotted something else while I was there, too. They were selling Beretta APXs for $375, which was just too darn good to pass up. That's budget-brand money for a Beretta. Maybe they're about to stop production on them or something, since they didn't really catch on for whatever reason, and stores are blowing them out of inventory. I dunno. But for $375, geez, I felt like I stole it. I know I'm old fashioned, but that's one FUGLEY gun! |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 28, 2021 11:16:47 GMT -5
Lots of those plastic-framed EDC-type pistols are made in Croatia or Turkey. All of SA's are.
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 28, 2021 11:19:51 GMT -5
Thanks. It really does have very elegant, slender lines. Almost girlish. I think I'm going to enjoy it. Spotted something else while I was there, too. They were selling Beretta APXs for $375, which was just too darn good to pass up. That's budget-brand money for a Beretta. Maybe they're about to stop production on them or something, since they didn't really catch on for whatever reason, and stores are blowing them out of inventory. I dunno. But for $375, geez, I felt like I stole it. I know I'm old fashioned, but that's one FUGLEY gun! Esthetics should have nothing to do with a self-defense handgun, but it definitely does. I don't want to carry an UGLY pistol. Just don't. It makes a difference to me. YMMV. For ugly, checkout Leupold's handgun red-dot sight. Deal breaker! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 28, 2021 11:42:18 GMT -5
I know I'm old fashioned, but that's one FUGLEY gun! Esthetics should have nothing to do with a self-defense handgun, but it definitely does. I don't want to carry an UGLY pistol. Just don't. It makes a difference to me. YMMV. For ugly, checkout Leupold's handgun red-dot sight. Deal breaker! Colt set the standard for what a gun should look like, auto, single action or double action. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 28, 2021 11:49:07 GMT -5
That Remington 9mm (Model 51?) is a very handsome pistol. Single stack though, I believe.
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Post by toshtego on Jun 28, 2021 12:32:12 GMT -5
That Remington 9mm (Model 51?) is a very handsome pistol. Single stack though, I believe. That is nice looking and well designed DA 9mm. I recall the Berkeley, CA Police Department was one of the first municipal departments to adopt it as their patrol officer sidearm back in the early 1970s. The guys much appreciated the lighter weight and compact size. San Francisco PD had adopted the Smith & Wesson Model 57 .41 magnum with six inch barrel. A large frame and heavy gunpiece which annoyed the heck out of everybody concerned. I have thought the Browning Model 1935, Hi-Power, was the standard for 9s in appearance and functionality. |
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Post by toshtego on Jun 28, 2021 13:10:33 GMT -5
^^^^^ Ooops. My mistake. I was confused. I meant the Smith and Wesson Model 39.
The Remington 51 is, indeed, a nicely designed pistol.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 28, 2021 13:42:38 GMT -5
That Remington 9mm (Model 51?) is a very handsome pistol. Single stack though, I believe. 39 Single stack, 59 double stack. Yeah, if I had a Model 39 it would be my everyday carry. Lovely guns |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 28, 2021 13:44:02 GMT -5
^^^^^ Ooops. My mistake. I was confused. I meant the Smith and Wesson Model 39. The Remington 51 is, indeed, a nicely designed pistol. My M.51 Remington is my EDC. I like it and mine works. |
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