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Post by Rattlesnake Daddy on Sept 5, 2021 7:13:47 GMT -5
I was searching for a few things online, and came across a shop that I hadn't seen before. More of a cigar shop that sells some pipes and tobacco. They had a pipe primer on the site and this entry for cobs caught my attention (bold letters are me):
"The corncob is the quintessential American pipe. Before large scale production began in 1868 the corncob pipe was popular among American pioneers and Indians. While the bowl is made from the cob, usually a reed or hollowed out piece of wood is used for the stem and mouthpiece. Typically corncobs smoke hot and wet and have a limited useful life, unlike briar or meerschaum."
Yes they can have a shorter life, especially if abused, but I have not had this experience with cobs.
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Post by darktater on Sept 5, 2021 7:18:15 GMT -5
my cobs don't smoke any wetter than briars with the same blends. And my MM's with the 'filler' or whatever it is called don't seem to smoke any hotter.
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Post by Rattlesnake Daddy on Sept 5, 2021 7:23:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm wondering if they either aren't really familiar with cobs (none listed on their site), or are simply trying to push more profitable pipes.
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Post by trailboss on Sept 5, 2021 9:04:01 GMT -5
Did the primer say who produced it, or who the author was?
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 5, 2021 9:49:17 GMT -5
Unsourced absolutist statements are always suspect. (Like this one.)
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 9:52:25 GMT -5
Maybe when they are fresh from the field? Lol ... more internet misinformation. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 10:00:59 GMT -5
my cobs don't smoke any wetter than briars with the same blends. And my MM's with the 'filler' or whatever it is called don't seem to smoke any hotter. I believe it's called 'plaster of Paris' or 'Paris plaster'.
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Post by darktater on Sept 5, 2021 10:16:09 GMT -5
my cobs don't smoke any wetter than briars with the same blends. And my MM's with the 'filler' or whatever it is called don't seem to smoke any hotter. I believe it's called 'plaster of Paris' or 'Paris plaster'. i think you are right
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Post by Rattlesnake Daddy on Sept 5, 2021 10:18:56 GMT -5
Did the primer say who produced it, or who the author was?
Not that I recall. I tried to go back to the sellers site and look again, but can't seem to find the link. I did find the exact text on the Tobacconist University site, so it was possibly a cut and paste job from there.
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 10:21:17 GMT -5
Did the primer say who produced it, or who the author was?
Not that I recall. I tried to go back to the sellers site and look again, but can't seem to find the link. I did find the exact text on the Tobacconist University site, so it was possibly a cut and paste job from there.
As an "alumni" of this online program, I'm sending an email to the Admin about that. Perhaps they've only had the Chinese version.
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Post by trailboss on Sept 5, 2021 10:48:35 GMT -5
Not that I recall. I tried to go back to the sellers site and look again, but can't seem to find the link. I did find the exact text on the Tobacconist University site, so it was possibly a cut and paste job from there.
As an "alumni" of this online program, I'm sending an email to the Admin about that. Perhaps they've only had the Chinese version. If that is the case, they should have picked up notes of burning butyl.
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 10:57:52 GMT -5
As an "alumni" of this online program, I'm sending an email to the Admin about that. Perhaps they've only had the Chinese version. If that is the case, they should have picked up notes of burning butyl. Lol ... true! 😄 The email has been sent and I'll post the reply here.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 5, 2021 11:00:49 GMT -5
I was searching for a few things online, and came across a shop that I hadn't seen before. More of a cigar shop that sells some pipes and tobacco. They had a pipe primer on the site and this entry for cobs caught my attention (bold letters are me):
"The corncob is the quintessential American pipe. Before large scale production began in 1868 the corncob pipe was popular among American pioneers and Indians. While the bowl is made from the cob, usually a reed or hollowed out piece of wood is used for the stem and mouthpiece. Typically corncobs smoke hot and wet and have a limited useful life, unlike briar or meerschaum."
Yes they can have a shorter life, especially if abused, but I have not had this experience with cobs.
On another forum a member tried to smoke a cob to death. He gave up at 10k bowls.
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Post by kxg on Sept 5, 2021 11:03:38 GMT -5
Perhaps it's more what one smokes in a cob than the cob itself? I would suggest, without any data whatsoever, that many first time cob smokers likely smoke, by virtue of B&M counter proximity, some aromatic blend that would smoke wet and hot in most any pipe; just a thought. FWIW, I don't find my cobs smoking much differently that my briar pipes.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Sept 5, 2021 11:11:39 GMT -5
Love my cobs...they are some of the best smokers including briars and meers.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 5, 2021 11:12:58 GMT -5
Perhaps it's more what one smokes in a cob than the cob itself? I would suggest, without any data whatsoever, that many first time cob smokers likely smoke, by virtue of B&M counter proximity, some aromatic blend that would smoke wet and hot in most any pipe; just a thought. FWIW, I don't find my cobs smoking much differently that my briar pipes. They shine with aros and burleys.
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Post by Gypo on Sept 5, 2021 11:26:16 GMT -5
I enjoy my cobs very much I think I have 13 of them and out of the 13 Walt did a special job on 9 of them. Thanks again Walt I am still enjoying them very much.
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 11:40:16 GMT -5
Got a fast, yet snobbish, reply:
I guess my $100 donation and completion of their CCT program just wasn't enough street cred for this one representative. Lol
Here's my reply back:
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 11:43:01 GMT -5
Follow up in a slightly nicer tone ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 12:18:06 GMT -5
Perhaps it's more what one smokes in a cob than the cob itself? I would suggest, without any data whatsoever, that many first time cob smokers likely smoke, by virtue of B&M counter proximity, some aromatic blend that would smoke wet and hot in most any pipe; just a thought. FWIW, I don't find my cobs smoking much differently that my briar pipes. I was under the impression, from what I have read about them, that they are highly absorbant and thus smoking wet(ter) tobacco makes it shine every time with a cob. And that they are a particcularly outstanding match with Burleys, i.e., the OTC American classics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 12:21:05 GMT -5
Got a fast, yet snobbish, reply: I guess my $100 donation and completion of their CCT program just wasn't enough street cred for this one representative. Lol Here's my reply back: A most typical 'college'/'university' academic response. He must have smoked his cob while taking his shower.
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Post by trailboss on Sept 5, 2021 13:22:49 GMT -5
“Hello Darin, As a retail tobacconist with 27 years experience I would respectfully disagree. Your perspective would be a good contribution to the curriculum if you ever become a CMT and make an academic contribution... until then, we will keep your opinion in mind in case there is an opportunity to enhance the content.”
Or more properly worded, “As a retail tobacconist with 27 years, I have experienced the fact that the cob does not allow enough of a profit margin like a briar or meerschaum pipe has for me to consider it a worthwhile recommendation”
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2021 13:25:04 GMT -5
😅😅😅
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Post by sperrytops on Sept 5, 2021 14:00:07 GMT -5
What is clear from this thread is that cob smokers are a committed group. Don't trash talk their cobs.
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 21:53:37 GMT -5
Smoking a cool, dry cob filled with a burley-dominant blend, as I read the thread. All good here.
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Post by Lews Therin Kinslayer on Sept 7, 2021 4:04:24 GMT -5
I'm actually upset at how cool and dry my cob smokes when compared to some of my briars that cost 10x more. Maybe that guy should stick to cigars.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 7, 2021 4:08:51 GMT -5
I'm actually upset at how cool and dry my cob smokes when compared to some of my briars that cost 10x more. Maybe that guy should stick to cigars. lol. My cobs smoke considerably drier than my briars. And Darin - interesting response from the shop. Hardly great customer service. I do love your reply, though.
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