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Post by toshtego on Oct 7, 2021 17:42:40 GMT -5
Reading how a man down south saved his little dog from the jaws of a Gator got me thinking about "Truck long Guns". You know, that old piece behind the seat or under the tool bag. What you want to bring out in an emergency to settle some problem.
Mine is a Norwegian made Krag in 6.5 X 55 mm and cut down by the previous owner to about 18 inches. Past examples include a Tula made SKS, a Ruger Deerfield and a Winchester 94.
So, what is your preference? I went with what I had handy.
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Post by trailboss on Oct 7, 2021 17:58:24 GMT -5
M1 Carbine is the perfect truck gun for me, lack of recoil, capacity and the .30 carbine round delivers a substantial wallop.
And my wife shoots it well, the length of the stock fits us both without adjusting.
It travels with us.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 7, 2021 18:55:30 GMT -5
Whenever somebody asks a question like "What's the BEST deer rifle?" I am inclined to answer— "Ain't no such critter!" Like the diaper salesman said, "Depends." I've had several different "truck guns"— which I define as a rifle that can handle pretty much everything you'd call on it for and isn't a safe-queen that needs to be pampered, coddled, and babied. About 20 years ago I decided to fit myself out with such a tool. I quite literally triaged every caliber and platform that might be considered. I wound up with an all-stainless Ruger Model 77 in 30-06 with composition stock (the old green "canoe paddle') and iron sights. To which I fitted a set of Warn return-to-zero quick-detach-mounts and a Leupold 3-10x B&C ballistic-compensator 'scope. I have never regretted that choice and still don't think there is a better all-around truck gun— for me at least, YMMV. Hard to find a more versatile and can-do rifle than a 30-06, with bullets from 100-grains to 220 and loads from weak-as-a-cat plinkers to dangerous game killers.
But even so, it isn't "right" for everything. So other as-needed truck guns over the years have been... A Bushmaster V-Match carbine with EOTech sight; a Winchester Trapper '94 in .357 Magnum; an AKM... and the beat goes on.
The truck gun question is a lot of fun and has no wrong answers. And so is the one about the "best" trail gun— in handguns of course.
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Post by don on Oct 7, 2021 19:34:19 GMT -5
Mine is a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39. Bolt action that takes Mini 30 mags.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 7, 2021 19:37:54 GMT -5
Mine is a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39. Bolt action that takes Mini 30 mags. I have seen those and would be interested in one. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 7, 2021 21:21:17 GMT -5
Reading how a man down south saved his little dog from the jaws of a Gator got me thinking about "Truck long Guns". You know, that old piece behind the seat or under the tool bag. What you want to bring out in an emergency to settle some problem. Mine is a Norwegian made Krag in 6.5 X 55 mm and cut down by the previous owner to about 18 inches. Past examples include a Tula made SKS, a Ruger Deerfield and a Winchester 94. So, what is your preference? I went with what I had handy. My preference would be the 94, however I am satisfied with a 9mm Star Model B. All long guns I have are too valuable to leave in the truck. I have an SKS, but don't forsee needing that kind of firepower. If things get that bad around here the AR 309 AAC pistol would probably be the "long gun" of choice. Cheap and potent and very accurate with the brace. And short enough to handle in the truck. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 7, 2021 21:33:05 GMT -5
“All long guns I have are too valuable to leave in the truck.”
The cost of the weapon is inconsequential in the big scheme should you find yourself in the gravest extreme.
You should choose the firearm that you have the most confidence In .
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 7, 2021 21:37:45 GMT -5
“All long guns I have are too valuable to leave in the truck.” The cost of the weapon is inconsequential in the big scheme should you find yourself in the gravest extreme. You should choose the firearm that you have the most confidence In . I have adequate confidence in the Star. The 300 was cheap to build and dependable. If I ever have a need. We really don't have any trouble here. |
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Post by urbino on Oct 7, 2021 22:05:01 GMT -5
No shotguns?
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 7, 2021 22:19:03 GMT -5
I do have a shotgun that has done truck duty. I paid $50 for it brand new. It's a Turkish single shot 12ga. It sleeps by the bedroom door most of the time. The side holder holds a selection from rubber shot to slugs. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 7, 2021 22:38:41 GMT -5
Shotguns in "truck gun" mode are mostly for self defense and not much else. A rifle is far more versatile.
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Post by urbino on Oct 7, 2021 23:01:38 GMT -5
I guess it depends on what you're likely to encounter.
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Post by urbino on Oct 7, 2021 23:09:32 GMT -5
Were I choosing a rifle, I'd probably go with Ron's choice -- a braced "pistol" in .300 Blackout. Useful round. Compact long gun.
The BLR in 7mm-08 would be a good choice, too, though.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 7, 2021 23:15:03 GMT -5
I'm very fond of the 7-08 cartridge. It's a real star.
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Post by urbino on Oct 8, 2021 0:21:42 GMT -5
There's darn little a .308 can do that a 7-08 can't, with less recoil. The 7 even does some things better.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 8:26:16 GMT -5
There's darn little a .308 can do that a 7-08 can't, with less recoil. The 7 even does some things better. Dead on. 7mm projectiles have a ballistic magic about them. I love the .308, but the 7mm's do not take a back seat to it. The 7-08 would be my first choice for a kid's first deer rifle. Some go to the .243 and I think that's a mistake, as the .243 is an expert's rifle IMO. Sorry... bit of drift here... |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 10:05:44 GMT -5
Shotguns in "truck gun" mode are mostly for self defense and not much else. A rifle is far more versatile. The pistol is for self defense. The shotgun is in case another deer runs out of the woods and hurls itself in front of the truck. If things change enough that I need to carry more firepower, I'm well prepared. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Oct 8, 2021 12:28:35 GMT -5
For toolin around town it's a 9MM in the glovebox, 1911 45 in the console, 380 on my person.
On the road it's all the above and an AR-15.
If headin up to the hills for a cabin stay it's all the above plus the Mossy 12 ga.
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Post by don on Oct 8, 2021 12:59:21 GMT -5
I go about my business with a good knife in my front pocket. I feel so inadequate.
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Post by urbino on Oct 8, 2021 13:12:41 GMT -5
I go about my business with a good knife in my front pocket. I feel so inadequate. I don't actually carry anything, either, don. Just hypothesizing. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 16:06:41 GMT -5
There's darn little a .308 can do that a 7-08 can't, with less recoil. The 7 even does some things better. Dead on. 7mm projectiles have a ballistic magic about them. I love the .308, but the 7mm's do not take a back seat to it. The 7-08 would be my first choice for a kid's first deer rifle. Some go to the .243 and I think that's a mistake, as the .243 is an expert's rifle IMO. Sorry... bit of drift here... I agree about 7mm/.270 having a certain magic. .25 is another cartridge worthy of consideration. I always wanted a Winchester '94 in .25-35. I had a .25-06 and that was also a fine shooter. |
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Post by urbino on Oct 8, 2021 16:22:56 GMT -5
There's darn little a .308 can do that a 7-08 can't, with less recoil. The 7 even does some things better. Dead on. 7mm projectiles have a ballistic magic about them. I love the .308, but the 7mm's do not take a back seat to it. The 7-08 would be my first choice for a kid's first deer rifle. Some go to the .243 and I think that's a mistake, as the .243 is an expert's rifle IMO. Sorry... bit of drift here... I think that's its problem. It tends to get ghettoized as a cartridge for kids and wives, not suitable for men. Men shoot .30's and magnums. Whether they need them or not. |
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Post by urbino on Oct 8, 2021 16:27:01 GMT -5
Dead on. 7mm projectiles have a ballistic magic about them. I love the .308, but the 7mm's do not take a back seat to it. The 7-08 would be my first choice for a kid's first deer rifle. Some go to the .243 and I think that's a mistake, as the .243 is an expert's rifle IMO. Sorry... bit of drift here... I agree about 7mm/.270 having a certain magic. .25 is another cartridge worthy of consideration. I always wanted a Winchester '94 in .25-35. I had a .25-06 and that was also a fine shooter. I sometimes find myself wondering why more of the long-range competition shooters don't use the .25-06. But I don't really know a lot about that kind of shooting. The 7 has almost as much magic as the 6.5.  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 8, 2021 16:29:15 GMT -5
I go about my business with a good knife in my front pocket. I feel so inadequate. That is my preference...and I don't feel inadequate...now if he has a gun in his hand, then it makes no difference if I have one too...not in my hand. |
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Post by instymp on Oct 8, 2021 17:06:30 GMT -5
Shotguns in "truck gun" mode are mostly for self defense and not much else. A rifle is far more versatile. The pistol is for self defense. The shotgun is in case another deer runs out of the woods and hurls itself in front of the truck. If things change enough that I need to carry more firepower, I'm well prepared. Me too, I will put in reverse. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 8, 2021 17:16:40 GMT -5
 The truck is a very good weapon, most of regular trucks weighs 4500 lbs, that’s a hell of a bullet!
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 17:31:02 GMT -5
The truck is a very good weapon, most of regular trucks weighs 4500 lbs, that’s a hell of a bullet! Except it is hard to rescue a pup from a Gator with one or sheep from a pack of dogs. My truck is a Full Metal Jacket! |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 8, 2021 17:44:57 GMT -5
Double Post
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 8, 2021 17:45:47 GMT -5
Me and my cousin killed a big alligator that rushed my Old Cousions horse almost unseating him from his horse, we were in an old Chevy 6 cylinder, we ran over that sucker several times. Not all the time but most of the time you get out the truck, you’re more in harms way.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 17:55:53 GMT -5
Me and my cousin killed a big alligator that rushed my Old Cousions horse almost unseating him from his horse, we were in an old Chevy 6 cylinder, we ran over that sucker several times. Not all the time but most of the time you get out the truck, you’re more in harms way. That must have bounced some! |
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The truck is a very good weapon, most of regular trucks weighs 4500 lbs, that’s a hell of a bullet!