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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 18:16:41 GMT -5
We never really defined the purpose of a truck gun. Could be several of course. Out here the most often use is coyotes or porcupines. The 250/3000 used to be the gun of choice. Now it's getting to be the 6.5 Creedmor. If I were driving into an area dangerous enough to need a truck gun for self defense I just wouldn't go there.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 19:00:25 GMT -5
I thought the problem had been defined but I see that post did not make it onto the forum, LOL!
I was thinking less about personal self defense than dogs attacking livestock, Gators attacking dogs. Putting down animals on the highway struck by other vehicles. Signaling the pursuing Posse I am ready to surrender... or not.
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Post by don on Oct 8, 2021 19:04:22 GMT -5
I prospect for minerals, gems, turquoise etc in areas that are either on the southern border or very close to it. If I am off pavement in the desert, there is a rifle in the truck, a pistol on my hip and plenty of ammo for both. The rifle is close at hand if I am digging. I have a pack nearby that I can get by with for a week if I have to. Water would be the big problem if I was left afoot, but I could improvise and maybe get past that problem too, depending on the terrain, flora and fauna.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 19:29:29 GMT -5
Semper paratus. Yes.
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Post by trailboss on Oct 8, 2021 19:31:07 GMT -5
I prospect for minerals, gems, turquoise etc in areas that are either on the southern border or very close to it. If I am off pavement in the desert, there is a rifle in the truck, a pistol on my hip and plenty of ammo for both. The rifle is close at hand if I am digging. I have a pack nearby that I can get by with for a week if I have to. Water would be the big problem if I was left afoot, but I could improvise and maybe get past that problem too, depending on the terrain, flora and fauna. A bag of lime also, you already have the shovel. |
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Post by don on Oct 8, 2021 19:48:53 GMT -5
I prospect for minerals, gems, turquoise etc in areas that are either on the southern border or very close to it. If I am off pavement in the desert, there is a rifle in the truck, a pistol on my hip and plenty of ammo for both. The rifle is close at hand if I am digging. I have a pack nearby that I can get by with for a week if I have to. Water would be the big problem if I was left afoot, but I could improvise and maybe get past that problem too, depending on the terrain, flora and fauna. A bag of lime also, you already have the shovel. Buzzards are good enough….. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 20:40:40 GMT -5
Dead on. 7mm projectiles have a ballistic magic about them. I love the .308, but the 7mm's do not take a back seat to it. The 7-08 would be my first choice for a kid's first deer rifle. Some go to the .243 and I think that's a mistake, as the .243 is an expert's rifle IMO. Sorry... bit of drift here... I think that's its problem. It tends to get ghettoized as a cartridge for kids and wives, not suitable for men. Men shoot .30's and magnums. Whether they need them or not. My friends dad was 7'2" tall and weighed 450+. He hunted with a Remington 700 243 and always got his deer with one shot. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 20:43:24 GMT -5
We never really defined the purpose of a truck gun. Could be several of course. Out here the most often use is coyotes or porcupines. The 250/3000 used to be the gun of choice. Now it's getting to be the 6.5 Creedmor. If I were driving into an area dangerous enough to need a truck gun for self defense I just wouldn't go there. Agreed. I only keep the 9mm in the truck in case I make a big mistake or just get lost. But mostly because we've hit 3 deer this year, although they all disappeared into the woods seemingly uninjured. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 8, 2021 20:43:44 GMT -5
I think that's its problem. It tends to get ghettoized as a cartridge for kids and wives, not suitable for men. Men shoot .30's and magnums. Whether they need them or not. My friends dad was 7'2" tall and weighed 450+. He hunted with a Remington 700 243 and always got his deer with one shot. Hell, if he got close enough he could have killed them with a punch. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -5
My friends dad was 7'2" tall and weighed 450+. He hunted with a Remington 700 243 and always got his deer with one shot. Hell, if he got close enough he could have killed them with a punch. Probably. I never saw him throw one. I think he was more of a hug you to death kind of guy. He was very recoil sensitive. He shot a 44 magnum model 29 once and it hit him in the head. Blood all over. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 20:57:42 GMT -5
I don't count my sidearm as it's always with me. I don't inventory my pants and I don't inventory my Sig.
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Post by trailboss on Oct 8, 2021 21:06:19 GMT -5
I don't count my sidearm as it's always with me. I don't inventory my pants and I don't inventory my Sig. Same here. I forgot I had a sidearm in my waistband while shooting at Rio Salado gun range. During a ceasefire at the range, one of the range nazis saw my gun and freaked out screaming at me that on a cold rangeI was not permitted to have a hot one on me. Even though he knew me as a regular, his screaming like a raped ape caused me to hand him my membership badge as I walked away from the facility never to return. A simple sideline conference with me would have sufficed, but going all out Michael Bloomberg pissed me off. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 21:17:33 GMT -5
Too bad. Some "range officers" have pressure-on-the-brain from their High Status.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 21:33:21 GMT -5
If it was holstered I don't get his damage.
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Post by urbino on Oct 8, 2021 21:49:09 GMT -5
I thought the problem had been defined but I see that post did not make it onto the forum, LOL! I was thinking less about personal self defense than dogs attacking livestock, Gators attacking dogs. Putting down animals on the highway struck by other vehicles. Signaling the pursuing Posse I am ready to surrender... or not. This is why this is all hypothetical for me. |
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Post by Gandalf on Oct 8, 2021 23:20:07 GMT -5
If I were to put a gun that I already own in my truck it would be an AR15.
If I bought one for that purpose, I'd have to research it. See what was available. Maybe a Ruger Mini 14 - smaller, lighter than an AR. Already have loads of ammo for it.
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Post by username on Oct 8, 2021 23:49:28 GMT -5
I always liked the idea of A sks as it was at the time cheap. The ammo was readably available and dirt cheap so I could practice shooting it a lot. What happened their used to a glut of decent mail surp rifles coming in about 10 years ago or so. I picked up a Yugoslavian sks for under 200 bucks with my c&r ffl back then. Sadly to do life circumstances I’ve since sold off my meager collection. But it was a fun hobby whilst it lasted.
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Post by simnettpratt on Oct 9, 2021 0:02:57 GMT -5
State department just banned the importation of all Russian ammo beginning September 7, so no more cheap 7.62; supply problems will be even worse than they are now.
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Post by don on Oct 9, 2021 0:18:47 GMT -5
Mine is a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39. Bolt action that takes Mini 30 mags. I have seen those and would be interested in one. A handy little bolt gun. Pretty accurate too. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 11:18:45 GMT -5
State department just banned the importation of all Russian ammo beginning September 7, so no more cheap 7.62; supply problems will be even worse than they are now. There are a lot of other countries that make that ammo. The Philippines for instance. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 9, 2021 12:26:08 GMT -5
If it was holstered I don't get his damage. The range I used in Los Angeles insisted that guns be stacked i the rack provided. Shooters step back and keep back until the call to return to the line. |
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Post by simnettpratt on Oct 9, 2021 12:26:12 GMT -5
I should have said less, not no more.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 12:27:12 GMT -5
I thought the problem had been defined but I see that post did not make it onto the forum, LOL! I was thinking less about personal self defense than dogs attacking livestock, Gators attacking dogs. Putting down animals on the highway struck by other vehicles. Signaling the pursuing Posse I am ready to surrender... or not. This is why this is all hypothetical for me. No need to defend yourself in Memphis, or no animals that need to be put down. |
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Post by Gandalf on Oct 9, 2021 13:20:57 GMT -5
If it was holstered I don't get his damage. Exactly. At my gun range, people are encouraged to carry on the premises - but "the gun must remain concealed - unless needed for defense of yourself or others, in which case judicious aim is requested. Any ammo expended in such a case will be gladly replaced by the owner." |
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Post by Gandalf on Oct 9, 2021 13:31:27 GMT -5
State department just banned the importation of all Russian ammo beginning September 7, so no more cheap 7.62; supply problems will be even worse than they are now. I bought a lot 7.62 x 39 many years back when you could get 20 rounds for $3 or $4. Stuff from China, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, ..... Unfortunately I'm sure it all has corrosive primers. And the "brass" of the Chinese stuff is garbage - seems to be very thin - 3 or 4 in 10 rounds split the neck. The Russian stuff looks good and it's covered with a "varnish" of some sort, which I assume seals it up and prevents corrosion. But I should shoot it all up and replace with good stuff. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 9, 2021 14:04:50 GMT -5
State department just banned the importation of all Russian ammo beginning September 7, so no more cheap 7.62; supply problems will be even worse than they are now. I bought a lot 7.62 x 39 many years back when you could get 20 rounds for $3 or $4. Stuff from China, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, ..... Unfortunately I'm sure it all has corrosive primers. And the "brass" of the Chinese stuff is garbage - seems to be very thin - 3 or 4 in 10 rounds split the neck. The Russian stuff looks good and it's covered with a "varnish" of some sort, which I assume seals it up and prevents corrosion. But I should shoot it all up and replace with good stuff. Let me know if you need any USGI bore cleaner from WWII made specifically for corrosive primers. I have a case of sealed cans, no charge for however many cans you might want. When I was on the range, my gun was holstered and concealed under a cover garment, it only showed when I bent over to pick up a fresh target during ceasefire. That was against the rules, and I wouldn’t have minded a gentle reprimand, but life is too short to support assholes. |
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Post by urbino on Oct 9, 2021 14:15:40 GMT -5
This is why this is all hypothetical for me. No need to defend yourself in Memphis, or no animals that need to be put down. The occasional land shark. That's about it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 14:17:34 GMT -5
State department just banned the importation of all Russian ammo beginning September 7, so no more cheap 7.62; supply problems will be even worse than they are now. I bought a lot 7.62 x 39 many years back when you could get 20 rounds for $3 or $4. Stuff from China, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, ..... Unfortunately I'm sure it all has corrosive primers. And the "brass" of the Chinese stuff is garbage - seems to be very thin - 3 or 4 in 10 rounds split the neck. The Russian stuff looks good and it's covered with a "varnish" of some sort, which I assume seals it up and prevents corrosion. But I should shoot it all up and replace with good stuff. I have a bunch of Wolf and some Phillipines ammo but I don't think any of it is corrosive. I don't even know how much I have. My friend bought one of those Russian surplus tins that he hasn't opened that probably is corrosive though. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 14:19:51 GMT -5
No need to defend yourself in Memphis, or no animals that need to be put down. The occasional land shark. That's about it. That's funny. I have terminal pucker when I drive through there on I40. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 9, 2021 18:36:24 GMT -5
Enough nonsense. Let's get to it! Here is my candidate for the "best" truck gun.  |
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