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Post by simnettpratt on Dec 10, 2021 13:06:59 GMT -5
Plans to effectively eliminate smoking in New Zealand over the next four years have now been finalized, New Zealand Associate Health Minister Ayesha Verrall told reporters on December 9.
“We want to make sure young people never start smoking, so we will make it an offense to sell or supply smoke tobacco products to new cohorts of young people,” she said.
The policy is part of a “Smokefree 2025” bill that is expected to breeze through New Zealand’s legislative process in 2022. If it passes as expected, people in New Zealand age 14 years and younger at the time will never be able to legally purchase tobacco in the country. The public health plan will increase the legal age for purchasing tobacco products in New Zealand each year over the next four years to eventually create a “smokefree generation” of New Zealanders, Verrall said on December 9.
Roughly 8,000 New Zealand retailers currently sell tobacco products. The “Smokefree 2025” legislation would aim to reduce this figure “to about 500 under the new rules – meaning 7,500 will have to transition to a new business model,” Verrall said Thursday.
“Dairy owners facing loss of income after losing tobacco sales won’t be compensated,” she added. Verrall referred to small dairy shops in New Zealand, or “dairies,” which traditionally sell tobacco products in addition to milk and other goods.
“Dairies will go out of business,” Sunny Kaushal, an advocate for New Zealand dairies, told Stuff in April when the “Smokefree 2025” bill was first proposed to the public.
“If the revenue is gone, how can they survive? We urge the Government to review this proposal and not take a hasty decision which could impact so heavily on small businesses,” he said.
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Post by Silver on Dec 10, 2021 13:18:54 GMT -5
I think Australia will be next, then who knows? Great Britain? Canada? Continental Europe? Us?
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Post by sperrytops on Dec 10, 2021 13:38:58 GMT -5
Weird that dairy products are dependent on tobacco. That's got to be unique.
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Post by Silver on Dec 10, 2021 13:45:52 GMT -5
In the article, the author explained that "dairy" is the Kiwi equivalent of our convenience store.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 10, 2021 20:51:27 GMT -5
There must be a lot of stupid people in New Zealand that vote for these creeps to lord their power over themselves. Australia cannot be far behind.
Sadly, we are on the same trajectory here with political leaders, albeit a few years behind before we progressively end up in the same sad state of affairs.
The average dummy wants rulership over themselves… it is all good until your ox is gored.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 10, 2021 20:59:01 GMT -5
Weird that dairy products are dependent on tobacco. That's got to be unique. Similar situation in Ireland.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Dec 11, 2021 2:00:53 GMT -5
Sadly what we're experiencing world wide was predicted in the books 1984 and Atlas Shrugged.
I hate to think what our grandchildren will have to endure.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 11, 2021 7:52:19 GMT -5
This is formulaic, and population driven. The more people, the more government. And organic government feeds on itself and the people it governs. Orwell could never have foreseen the tools that our governments have to dominate and control. This will go on until it reaches the Jeffersonian nexus— the watering of trees.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 11, 2021 12:09:42 GMT -5
Just more craziness.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Dec 11, 2021 15:47:51 GMT -5
 Come get my tobbaco TBrad got a surprise for you!
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Post by toshtego on Dec 11, 2021 17:55:33 GMT -5
 Come get my tobbaco TBrad got a surprise for you! No one is coming for your tobacco, nor your gun.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 11, 2021 18:19:31 GMT -5
 Come get my tobbaco TBrad got a surprise for you! No one is coming for your tobacco, nor your gun. That is impressive. You put a lot of work into it.
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JimK
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Post by JimK on Dec 13, 2021 11:45:47 GMT -5
Methinks I see a business opportunity for a modern day Al Capone...ya know what I'm sayin?
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 13, 2021 16:29:05 GMT -5
Methinks I see a business opportunity for a modern day Al Capone...ya know what I'm sayin? Thinking the very same thing, Jim. Ban something people want and create a whole new criminal industry. The do-gooders never seem to learn.
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 13, 2021 17:04:52 GMT -5
Indian Nations we are counting on you..
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 13, 2021 18:17:51 GMT -5
Indian Nations we are counting on you.. Ha! Think again, white-eyes. 
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Post by trailboss on Dec 13, 2021 18:33:45 GMT -5
None of the many Indian discount smoke shops carry any decent pipe tobacco from what I see around these parts.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 13, 2021 18:53:42 GMT -5
What, no kinickkinick?
Actually, once the white man arrived on the scene they got their tabac from US. A major trade-good.
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 14, 2021 3:30:05 GMT -5
None of the many Indian discount smoke shops carry any decent pipe tobacco from what I see around these parts. Give it time....... Prices rise through regulation/taxes etc. ...... An increase interest in purchasing lower priced pipe tobacco comes to the attention of the shops...... Where profit is involved, the nations could follow......... After all we are, in part, talking about the future....
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 14, 2021 3:35:18 GMT -5
Indian Nations we are counting on you.. Ha! Think again, white-eyes.  Casinos, cigarette sales etc. speak otherwise...
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Post by Scott W on Dec 15, 2021 20:56:10 GMT -5
If it happens here, I’m lucky enough to have enough pipes, tobacco and cigars to last me about 35 years.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 15, 2021 21:45:26 GMT -5
And one time, New Zealand was high on my list to visit at a time in my life that I was comfortably able to do so.
Now, I have no desire to do so, I now realize that my contributions are a drop on the bucket. So be it.
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