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Post by don on Dec 23, 2021 13:03:24 GMT -5
Hey guys. For those of you who know and use lathes, would a Craftsman 101.20140 be able to do duty as a pipe turning lathe? Or would it be serious overkill. A retired friend is selling his and I have no idea whether it would be useful for pipe turning or even what I should offer him if it does make sense. It us a 4’ bed metal lathe.
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Post by adui on Dec 23, 2021 13:07:29 GMT -5
I use an old craftsman model 113 12" wood lathe so I would imagine that thing would easily work. Overkill? Probably, but if you have other uses for it why not?
As for what to offer, I haven't the foggiest...
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Post by Silver on Dec 23, 2021 13:39:55 GMT -5
I use an old craftsman model 113 12" wood lathe so I would imagine that thing would easily work. Overkill? Probably, but if you have other uses for it why not? As for what to offer, I haven't the foggiest... Terry, any advice on bench buffers? 6", variable speed? Any other specs to look for? |
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Post by adui on Dec 23, 2021 13:49:25 GMT -5
I use 6" wheels but I have an arbor that attaches them to my lathe. That said, if I had the $$ I'd have a good 6 or 8 inch variable speed buffer. I dont have a preference in brands, I buy what works for me! (Harbor freight has one Im looking at (It's a grinder I can put buffing wheels on) for $134.00 Variable Speed Buffer / Grinder |
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Post by Silver on Dec 23, 2021 13:53:04 GMT -5
I use 6" wheels but I have an arbor that attaches them to my lathe. That said, if I had the $$ I'd have a good 6 or 8 inch variable speed buffer. I dont have a preference in brands, I buy what works for me! (Harbor freight has one Im looking at (It's a grinder I can put buffing wheels on) for $134.00 Variable Speed Buffer / GrinderThanks! |
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Post by urbino on Dec 23, 2021 14:47:30 GMT -5
Hey guys. For those of you who know and use lathes, would a Craftsman 101.20140 be able to do duty as a pipe turning lathe? Or would it be serious overkill. A retired friend is selling his and I have no idea whether it would be useful for pipe turning or even what I should offer him if it does make sense. It us a 4’ bed metal lathe. I believe a metal lathe is what most artisan pipemakers use. As for that specific model, I have no idea. RDPipes or Cramptholomew might be able to help, if they're not offline for the holidays. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 23, 2021 15:39:04 GMT -5
I use 6" wheels but I have an arbor that attaches them to my lathe. That said, if I had the $$ I'd have a good 6 or 8 inch variable speed buffer. I dont have a preference in brands, I buy what works for me! (Harbor freight has one Im looking at (It's a grinder I can put buffing wheels on) for $134.00 Variable Speed Buffer / GrinderI have an old craftsman bench grinder that is way too high on the RPM's for buffing pipes. Some day when I get off my lazy butt I am going to buy everything to convert it into a buffer, first stop is Harbor Freight....then Vermont freehand. www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html |
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Post by adui on Dec 23, 2021 15:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Dec 23, 2021 16:11:14 GMT -5
Thanks, advice appreciated.
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Post by RDPipes on Dec 24, 2021 6:25:15 GMT -5
Hey guys. For those of you who know and use lathes, would a Craftsman 101.20140 be able to do duty as a pipe turning lathe? Or would it be serious overkill. A retired friend is selling his and I have no idea whether it would be useful for pipe turning or even what I should offer him if it does make sense. It us a 4’ bed metal lathe. Don, I use a 10 x 30 lathe and it works perfect for me. If you not sure what that is 10 means 10 inch swing from center of the spindle to top of the bed and takes a 5" diameter chuck. 30 is the length of the bed in inches from the spindle to the tail-stock. The Craftsman you mentioned is a 12" machine I believe which is just fine in my opinion to make pipes and anything else one would need or want if the lathe is in good working order for being as old as it is.
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Post by RDPipes on Dec 24, 2021 9:50:26 GMT -5
Oh, and if you guys want QUALITY buffing wheels, rouge, etc. Caswell IMHO is the Only place to go. I've been dealing with them for over 10 years now and have never been disappointed and their prices are very fair. A lot of the buffing wheels you'll find out there will shred in a matter of minutes and are NOT quality wheels. Caswell |
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Post by adui on Dec 24, 2021 10:58:11 GMT -5
Oh, and if you guys want QUALITY buffing wheels, rouge, etc. Caswell IMHO is the Only place to go. I've been dealing with them for over 10 years now and have never been disappointed and their prices are very fair. A lot of the buffing wheels you'll find out there will shred in a matter of minutes and are NOT quality wheels. CaswellThanks for the advice Ron, Ive been looking for a better wheel. The ones I got on Amazon are good and thick, but they send fluff flying. I assumed new wheel, we will see. Oh, FYI your link to Caswell goes to your lathe pic on imgur |
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Post by RDPipes on Dec 24, 2021 12:10:03 GMT -5
Oh, and if you guys want QUALITY buffing wheels, rouge, etc. Caswell IMHO is the Only place to go. I've been dealing with them for over 10 years now and have never been disappointed and their prices are very fair. A lot of the buffing wheels you'll find out there will shred in a matter of minutes and are NOT quality wheels. CaswellThanks for the advice Ron, Ive been looking for a better wheel. The ones I got on Amazon are good and thick, but they send fluff flying. I assumed new wheel, we will see. Oh, FYI your link to Caswell goes to your lathe pic on imgur
If your wheels are new they will throw a lot of link for awhile. You also need to rack them good and trim them before use. This will cut down on the lint thrown and give you a better surface for rogue or wax. If after a month of using them and
they still throw a lot of lint It's probably time to look into getting better wheels. You don't necessarily need wide wheels because the wider the wheel the more it'll grab and sooner or later it grab what ever your buffing and throw it. I generally stick to no wider
then one inch wide wheels. My rouge wheels are only about 1/2" to 3/4" wide and my wax wheels are 1 inch and one is 1/2" to get into tight places. You also need to be aware of the wheel diameter verse speed if you don't already. a 10 inch wheel outside diameter turns faster then a 5" wheel. I use a 1750 rpm dual shaft motor so when I use trip or red rouge on metal, plastic, etc. I use a 10" wheel but, if I'm buffing a stummel's finish I'll use a 5" wheel and the same size for wax. One can use a 10 inch wheel for finish but, you have to have a real light touch or it'll burn through the shellac. Of course if your using a 3400rpm motor your speeds are going to be much faster and you'll burn through everything except metal unless you can control the speed. Anyway, that's the way I do things.
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Post by Silver on Dec 24, 2021 12:21:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys!
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Post by trailboss on Dec 24, 2021 15:33:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys! Amen! |
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Post by instymp on Dec 24, 2021 18:12:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice Ron, Ive been looking for a better wheel. The ones I got on Amazon are good and thick, but they send fluff flying. I assumed new wheel, we will see. Oh, FYI your link to Caswell goes to your lathe pic on imgur
If your wheels are new they will throw a lot of link for awhile. You also need to rack them good and trim them before use. This will cut down on the lint thrown and give you a better surface for rogue or wax. If after a month of using them and
they still throw a lot of lint It's probably time to look into getting better wheels. You don't necessarily need wide wheels because the wider the wheel the more it'll grab and sooner or later it grab what ever your buffing and throw it. I generally stick to no wider
then one inch wide wheels. My rouge wheels are only about 1/2" to 3/4" wide and my wax wheels are 1 inch and one is 1/2" to get into tight places. You also need to be aware of the wheel diameter verse speed if you don't already. a 10 inch wheel outside diameter turns faster then a 5" wheel. I use a 1750 rpm dual shaft motor so when I use trip or red rouge on metal, plastic, etc. I use a 10" wheel but, if I'm buffing a stummel's finish I'll use a 5" wheel and the same size for wax. One can use a 10 inch wheel for finish but, you have to have a real light touch or it'll burn through the shellac. Of course if your using a 3400rpm motor your speeds are going to be much faster and you'll burn through everything except metal unless you can control the speed. Anyway, that's the way I do things.
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Post by don on Dec 25, 2021 10:09:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Ron. Beautiful setup you have there.
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Post by RDPipes on Dec 25, 2021 10:59:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Ron. Beautiful setup you have there. Thank you sir, I worked hard to get it to say the least. Before I got it I was making pipes on an old Craftsman/Dunlap from the 40's. It was only a 6" machine but, I made pipes on it when some said I couldn't.
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