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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 21:03:26 GMT -5
 First I have to say thank you to St. Valentine for these wonderful bowls. They arrived in today's post. Now for the back story, a few weeks ago I bought these Falcon stems for $30.00 the pair. One had a Viking bowl forced on it and the other had a Falcon bowl but wouldn't smoke because the seal/spacer was missing. After much thought I posted over on PM asking if anyone had a couple of extra Falcon Bowls they were willing to sell. Frank was the only one to respond. These bowls are lightly smoked. As I write this I am smoking some MB Roll Cake in one. These stems are stamped inside of the dimple. One is stamped with a capital " I" and it says Falcon on it. The other is stamped FD 12 and it says Falcon Made in England. So how can I use this info to date these stems? |
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Post by stvalentine on Feb 23, 2016 14:35:27 GMT -5
Good to hear that the bowls have reached you John! Regarding the coding of the stems I found this from plateauguy (pipesmagazine): quote: Falcons started in the USA with a simple mark of Falcon 1 or 2 or 3, etc. They were exported to England 1955-1957 under the names of ALCO and Rollit (marked PP). There have been several manufacturers. ALCO was manufactured in England starting in 1964 with a different bowl size. F2 thru F8 were made by Fry Diecast P4 is Presbar Die 4 The "Made in England" marking started in the early 60's. FD plus a number is Fry Diecast - the number range is FD1 - FD19. The Bantams were marked as FD B5 or FD B7 OXFORD can be marked on the Humidome, but not always. The Shillelagh started production in May 1966 with FD8 marking. They came in solid black with a black stem, or a bright with a white stem, or a bright with a light blue center with a white stem. You could buy a colored bowl or a traditional briar. Federal Die Casting is marked FDF/FDG/FDH. Andoic is marked AN plus a die number AN2 - 1974, AN3 - 1982 Irish Falcons are confusing - mostly marked Falcon Ireland but could be marked Falcon Great Britian which had Irish stems and an English made frame. From 1975 to 1981 there was a Falcon Head imprinted on the stem. unquote You may also look on www.smokingmetal.co.uk/ where you can find a lot of information on Falcons. Enjoy! |
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Post by sparks on Feb 23, 2016 22:34:28 GMT -5
That's awesome. Frank, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Not sure I know of a guy that is more selfless.
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Post by stvalentine on Feb 24, 2016 15:31:25 GMT -5
Thank you Justin! Just anticipated Karma and the generosity of other forum members - be it here, over at TPC or Pipesmagazine.  |
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Post by charl on Feb 26, 2016 6:19:26 GMT -5
That info regarding the Falcon/Alco is great. Thanks!
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