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Post by henry on Jan 15, 2022 13:53:52 GMT -5
+1 When the Ebola scare was going on, Arizona State University was using tobacco to a certain degree of success. news.asu.edu/content/asus-connection-new-ebola-drugAnd there have been stories posted online where tobacco users have a lower incidence of death resulting from Covid. Sadly, the leaf has been demonized for decades, and there are too many organizations that have sucked on the teat of grant money and support to ever concede that tobacco might have some positive effects... and the general public is either too lazy or too stupid as they swallow the talking points peddled by the media.
I think every herb on GOD's green earth his here for our benefit, but greed by big pharma in collusion with the vermin that live on grant money and corrupt journalists that are too lazy to truly "follow the science", the fix is in. Big tobacco has been no help either, as they are motivated by addicted cigarette smokers rather than pursuing research in regards to the benefits of pure leaf. ______________________________ For sure. If big tobacco had behaved responsibly I think smoking stigma would be down by about 70%. The media has a built-in bias toward the negative & sensational but I don't think they generate the bias, just amplify. Obesity is the major cause of death for millions but we don't regulate cheesecake. And to be honest some cigarette smokers haven't helped. (I've never had dispute with a pipe or cigar smoker over room smoke; can't say the same for cigarette people) Connoisseur may be a lofty word but I think it's descriptive of most pipe (& cigar) users. |
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2022 14:54:17 GMT -5
Obesity is the major cause of death for millions but we don't regulate cheesecake. That's "Big Sugar" for ya. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 15, 2022 15:44:48 GMT -5
Instead of looking for ways to justify our hobby as healthy, let's just enjoy our pipe and forget about it.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2022 18:27:42 GMT -5
+1 When the Ebola scare was going on, Arizona State University was using tobacco to a certain degree of success... Tobacco is what is deemed a "model plant" in studying the mechanisms of virology. In your reference here it is not referring to using tobacco as in smoking or consuming tobacco but rather it means that vaccines are being made inside tobacco plants..... Zach, you are much more informed than me in regards to how the leaf is used in truly scientific methods. I just know that whatever the case, I think that there are so many remedies to what collectively ails us. My grandmother that was a native American had an amazing ability to tend to the needs of others with natural remedies, but there is no financial gain for big Pharma to pursue that course. Not to be overly critical of Modern pharmaceuticals, there in deed are some great products, but I don't think that our best interests are often what motivates these companies. I know that we are more in agreement than not, I just wanted to clarify my earlier statement after having re-read it.
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2022 18:45:09 GMT -5
Oh definitely. Totally in agreement with you and your first statements as well. There are a lot of old and largely lost and forgotten plant medicines and some I've personally used repeatedly. One I've not mentioned but I've used the past few years is common mullein. Mullein, also known for about a thousand years as "Lungwort" is a common fuzzy-leafed plant that grows wild everywhere all throughout the world, and everywhere in North America. It's a great demulcent, expectorant, and it can clear up a cough faster than placating the cough with just a cough syrup. Today, it's commonly drank as a tea and it does have a nice mild green tea profile to it but what's mostly lost today is smoking it to expect a cough. Especially when I get a bad non-expecting cough that I just can't stop coughing and I can't get that feeling of coughing the phlegm "up and out" I like to smoke a few hits deep into my lungs. I feel it quell my cough and help me cough it up nearly instantaneously. When I had bronchitis from some virus in early December for a couple weeks, this stuff was a miracle drug for me personally and it's worked like a charm with this method anytime I've gotten a scratchy cough or a bad barking cough the last several years. I let a few of them grow around the back of my fence line each year and I harvest, dry, and cure the leaves. This leaf is also used in all those herbal smoking mixtures along with Mallow leaf and others. No placebo effect about it at all, it works like a miracle. Like those times when you have a REALLY bad cough and you just cannot stop coughing, yeah. I can smoke a few hits into my lungs and relieve the cough entirely within a few short minutes. You may start coughing a bit again in an hour or two and then I simply redo the same couple small hits with a deep inhale and it's instant. You feel the cough just completely subsided. These properties have been well documented and are even on WebMD but they throw in there that there are no drugs created from this plant and that real medical studies are non-existent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbascum_thapsuswww.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-mullein-tea#1 |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2022 19:05:19 GMT -5
Good stuff, thanks!
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Post by urbino on Jan 16, 2022 11:31:15 GMT -5
+1 When the Ebola scare was going on, Arizona State University was using tobacco to a certain degree of success. news.asu.edu/content/asus-connection-new-ebola-drugAnd there have been stories posted online where tobacco users have a lower incidence of death resulting from Covid. Sadly, the leaf has been demonized for decades, and there are too many organizations that have sucked on the teat of grant money and support to ever concede that tobacco might have some positive effects... and the general public is either too lazy or too stupid as they swallow the talking points peddled by the media.
I think every herb on GOD's green earth his here for our benefit, but greed by big pharma in collusion with the vermin that live on grant money and corrupt journalists that are too lazy to truly "follow the science", the fix is in. Big tobacco has been no help either, as they are motivated by addicted cigarette smokers rather than pursuing research in regards to the benefits of pure leaf. ______________________________ For sure. If big tobacco had behaved responsibly I think smoking stigma would be down by about 70%. The media has a built-in bias toward the negative & sensational but I don't think they generate the bias, just amplify. Obesity is the major cause of death for millions but we don't regulate cheesecake. And to be honest some cigarette smokers haven't helped. (I've never had dispute with a pipe or cigar smoker over room smoke; can't say the same for cigarette people) Connoisseur may be a lofty word but I think it's descriptive of most pipe (& cigar) users. The big cigarette companies did have it coming, in my opinion. They perpetrated a decades long fraud on their customers, the general public, and regulators, resulting in an awful lot of people developing serious and even fatal health problems. I feel not one ounce of sympathy for them. It's unfortunate that the rest of us got dragged into the sty with them, but social movements, judicial rulings, and legislation are rarely never surgical. They're powerful but blunt tools. On the whole, I think more good was done than harm. I've seen both cigarette and cigar smokers get obstreperous about [not] smoking. I'm sure some pipe smokers have been guilty as well, but I haven't personally witnessed it. Not surprising, really. There are a lot fewer of us, so the odds of seeing it are low. |
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