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Post by msokeefe on Jan 7, 2022 22:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 7, 2022 22:41:56 GMT -5
My wife just looked at me with THAT look. ☠️💀😎
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Post by daveinlax on Jan 7, 2022 23:27:05 GMT -5
Old News! I’m in a bad way but A big warm briar in my hand puts me right at least for awhile. I’m lucky my wife tolerates my passion for pipes and the hobby.
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Post by Zach on Jan 8, 2022 11:39:55 GMT -5
dosis sola facit venenum - The dose makes the poison! All things are poison, and nothing is without poison, the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.
—Paracelsus, 1538
Cigarettes are only 50% tobacco and mostly reconstituted, soaked stems with added extra nicotine and with myriad other chemical agents. Moreover, the bad thing about cigs is the act of continual smoking and breathing it into the lungs. Tobaccos do still have formaldehyde in small amounts from combustion but the worst carcinogen in tobacco smoke is something called nitrosonornicotine, or NNN. While there are strains of burley that are called "low converters" which are hybrid strains that attempt to breed out the NNN conversion, the whammy really stems from constant smoke in the lungs. The lungs do not heal readily, while the mouth is the fastest healing part of the human body. What we know today about cancer and carcinogens is that just about anything in too high and too repetitive of a dose can be carcinogenic. Drinking 5 cups of hot water (tea, coffee) consistently puts you at a much higher risk for throat cancer than someone who does not drink hot liquids. And it's not the coffee or the tea itself, but the temperature on the throat. Green tea extract is not safe in really high amounts, and can totally destroy your kidneys and liver to the point of failure. So this goes on ad infinitum with anything consumable. My grandfather was once told a number of years back that he was eating far too many leafy greens, and that the vitamin K was thickening his blood.
Pipe smoking good tobacco in moderation and not inhaling the smoke is moderately healthy due to the mild nicotine dose, however, there are numerous tobacco specific nitrosamines which are factually considers carcinogens. Where I personally find fault with getting scared about this in the public forum is that you can deep-dive into studies on many other things humans regularly consume to get an understanding that it's all around you anyway. Processed meats with their nitrosamines, fried potatoes full of acrylamide, the air you're breathing outside full of brake dust and myriad volatile chemicals. If you eat French fries or other forms of fried potatoes for example a few times per week, you're going to get an equal shot at the cancer roulette wheel just the same as pipe smoker who only smokes 1-5 bowls per week and does not inhale. Pure nicotine without the act of smoking metabolites has numerous health benefits including positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, reduction of body weight, stimulating the release of a variety of neurotransmitters including catecholamines and serotonin, performance enhancement and focus, protection against Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's, ulcerative colitis, and sleep apnea. There are PubMed whitepapers on therapeutic effects of pure nicotine, and more info including it's anti-viral and antimicrobial properties. Plants are miraculous little chemical factories and this is passion of mine since I was young.
The dose makes the poison.
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Post by msokeefe on Jan 8, 2022 13:32:10 GMT -5
Exactly Zach! You can overdose on water. The article shows that pipe smoking is not the worst thing in the world.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2022 15:54:37 GMT -5
Where I come from we call ‘overdosing on water’ drowning.
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Post by Zach on Jan 8, 2022 20:17:26 GMT -5
Plainsman "Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. contributes to the "greenhouse effect". may cause severe burns. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes. has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant. in nuclear power plants. in the production of styrofoam. as a fire retardant. in many forms of cruel animal research. in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical. as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products."
We should be fairly concerned with this dihydrogen monoxide stuff. Hydrogen hydroxide,too. This stuff is everywhere and we're constantly consuming it.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2022 22:02:48 GMT -5
So, why address this to me?
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Post by Zach on Jan 8, 2022 22:58:40 GMT -5
It's a joke. Those are warnings about water.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 11, 2022 12:05:59 GMT -5
I like the article, but it got some data from the Seattle pipe club (but I'm not where where THEY got their data), but that's a little biased. And they're using the US surgeon report from the 60s aren't they? That's not terribly up-to-date.
I'd love an unbiased (from both sides) report with up-to-date data. Sadly, I'm not sure we have the data points to draw any conclusions. Plus, even if you had enough people to participate, you have no control subjects...non-smokers are not a good control subject. You might have a non-smoker that works with radioactive materials, or a smoker who works with pesticides, or vice versa...the cancers etc. that people get are hard to fully attribute to smoking or not smoking. There are far too many other circumstantial and environmental influences feeding into the mix to make any data statistically significant...IN MY OPINION.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 11, 2022 12:08:52 GMT -5
I like the article, but it got some data from the Seattle pipe club (but I'm not where where THEY got their data), but that's a little biased. And they're using the US surgeon report from the 60s aren't they? That's not terribly up-to-date. I'd love an unbiased (from both sides) report with up-to-date data. Sadly, I'm not sure we have the data points to draw any conclusions. Plus, even if you had enough people to participate, you have no control subjects...non-smokers are not a good control subject. You might have a non-smoker that works with radioactive materials, or a smoker who works with pesticides, or vice versa...the cancers etc. that people get are hard to fully attribute to smoking or not smoking. There are far too many other circumstantial and environmental influences feeding into the mix to make any data statistically significant...IN MY OPINION. Not to mention that politically correctness influences science these days. It seems like nothing has changed since Galileo.
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Post by zambini on Jan 11, 2022 14:51:17 GMT -5
dosis sola facit venenum - The dose makes the poison! All things are poison, and nothing is without poison, the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.
—Paracelsus, 1538
Cigarettes are only 50% tobacco and mostly reconstituted, soaked stems with added extra nicotine and with myriad other chemical agents. Moreover, the bad thing about cigs is the act of continual smoking and breathing it into the lungs. Tobaccos do still have formaldehyde in small amounts from combustion but the worst carcinogen in tobacco smoke is something called nitrosonornicotine, or NNN. While there are strains of burley that are called "low converters" which are hybrid strains that attempt to breed out the NNN conversion, the whammy really stems from constant smoke in the lungs. The lungs do not heal readily, while the mouth is the fastest healing part of the human body. What we know today about cancer and carcinogens is that just about anything in too high and too repetitive of a dose can be carcinogenic. Drinking 5 cups of hot water (tea, coffee) consistently puts you at a much higher risk for throat cancer than someone who does not drink hot liquids. And it's not the coffee or the tea itself, but the temperature on the throat. Green tea extract is not safe in really high amounts, and can totally destroy your kidneys and liver to the point of failure. So this goes on ad infinitum with anything consumable. My grandfather was once told a number of years back that he was eating far too many leafy greens, and that the vitamin K was thickening his blood.
Pipe smoking good tobacco in moderation and not inhaling the smoke is moderately healthy due to the mild nicotine dose, however, there are numerous tobacco specific nitrosamines which are factually considers carcinogens. Where I personally find fault with getting scared about this in the public forum is that you can deep-dive into studies on many other things humans regularly consume to get an understanding that it's all around you anyway. Processed meats with their nitrosamines, fried potatoes full of acrylamide, the air you're breathing outside full of brake dust and myriad volatile chemicals. If you eat French fries or other forms of fried potatoes for example a few times per week, you're going to get an equal shot at the cancer roulette wheel just the same as pipe smoker who only smokes 1-5 bowls per week and does not inhale. Pure nicotine without the act of smoking metabolites has numerous health benefits including positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, reduction of body weight, stimulating the release of a variety of neurotransmitters including catecholamines and serotonin, performance enhancement and focus, protection against Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's, ulcerative colitis, and sleep apnea. There are PubMed whitepapers on therapeutic effects of pure nicotine, and more info including it's anti-viral and antimicrobial properties. Plants are miraculous little chemical factories and this is passion of mine since I was young.
The dose makes the poison.
Wasn't he tried for poising his patients? -Just being glib-
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 11, 2022 19:07:06 GMT -5
Everything we choose to do is a risk. Answering the door, crossing the street, driving cross-country. We choose, we do, we reap the reward or the penalty. Our obsession with data sometimes distorts our judgment— asking for surety where there is none. None of us are getting out of here alive. I’m just enjoying it all while I can and tabac is part of that,
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Post by urbino on Jan 12, 2022 2:41:01 GMT -5
I like the article, but it got some data from the Seattle pipe club (but I'm not where where THEY got their data), but that's a little biased. And they're using the US surgeon report from the 60s aren't they? That's not terribly up-to-date. I'd love an unbiased (from both sides) report with up-to-date data. Sadly, I'm not sure we have the data points to draw any conclusions. Plus, even if you had enough people to participate, you have no control subjects...non-smokers are not a good control subject. You might have a non-smoker that works with radioactive materials, or a smoker who works with pesticides, or vice versa...the cancers etc. that people get are hard to fully attribute to smoking or not smoking. There are far too many other circumstantial and environmental influences feeding into the mix to make any data statistically significant...IN MY OPINION. That's precisely the diagnosis of the problem, in my opinion. Well said. If your study group is large enough, a lot of those variables can cancel each other out, but studies that large cost a lot of money, and there has to be some critical mass of people with the proper training who want to study it. Neither of those resources are available.
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Post by Zach on Jan 12, 2022 7:52:06 GMT -5
Everything we choose to do is a risk. Answering the door, crossing the street, driving cross-country. We choose, we do, we reap the reward or the penalty. Our obsession with data sometimes distorts our judgment— asking for surety where there is none. None of us are getting out of here alive. I’m just enjoying it all while I can and tabac is part of that, Precisely. As far as a study goes, there is just no way in hell today's zeitgeist would ever allow for a study to show that smoking tobacco can have any benefit.
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Post by henry on Jan 12, 2022 14:54:22 GMT -5
dosis sola facit venenum - The dose makes the poison! All things are poison, and nothing is without poison, the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.
—Paracelsus, 1538
Cigarettes are only 50% tobacco and mostly reconstituted, soaked stems with added extra nicotine and with myriad other chemical agents. Moreover, the bad thing about cigs is the act of continual smoking and breathing it into the lungs. Tobaccos do still have formaldehyde in small amounts from combustion but the worst carcinogen in tobacco smoke is something called nitrosonornicotine, or NNN. While there are strains of burley that are called "low converters" which are hybrid strains that attempt to breed out the NNN conversion, the whammy really stems from constant smoke in the lungs. The lungs do not heal readily, while the mouth is the fastest healing part of the human body. What we know today about cancer and carcinogens is that just about anything in too high and too repetitive of a dose can be carcinogenic. Drinking 5 cups of hot water (tea, coffee) consistently puts you at a much higher risk for throat cancer than someone who does not drink hot liquids. And it's not the coffee or the tea itself, but the temperature on the throat. Green tea extract is not safe in really high amounts, and can totally destroy your kidneys and liver to the point of failure. So this goes on ad infinitum with anything consumable. My grandfather was once told a number of years back that he was eating far too many leafy greens, and that the vitamin K was thickening his blood.
Pipe smoking good tobacco in moderation and not inhaling the smoke is moderately healthy due to the mild nicotine dose, however, there are numerous tobacco specific nitrosamines which are factually considers carcinogens. Where I personally find fault with getting scared about this in the public forum is that you can deep-dive into studies on many other things humans regularly consume to get an understanding that it's all around you anyway. Processed meats with their nitrosamines, fried potatoes full of acrylamide, the air you're breathing outside full of brake dust and myriad volatile chemicals. If you eat French fries or other forms of fried potatoes for example a few times per week, you're going to get an equal shot at the cancer roulette wheel just the same as pipe smoker who only smokes 1-5 bowls per week and does not inhale. Pure nicotine without the act of smoking metabolites has numerous health benefits including positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, reduction of body weight, stimulating the release of a variety of neurotransmitters including catecholamines and serotonin, performance enhancement and focus, protection against Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's, ulcerative colitis, and sleep apnea. There are PubMed whitepapers on therapeutic effects of pure nicotine, and more info including it's anti-viral and antimicrobial properties. Plants are miraculous little chemical factories and this is passion of mine since I was young.
The dose makes the poison.
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My take for what its worth, Zach:
The difference between cigarette smoking and pipe use is the difference between hooch done in an abandoned radiator and twenty year malt scotch. Use is totally different also: most pipe smokers--to my knowledge--draw smoke into the mouth rather than lungs (I've never seen a pipe user draw and then exhale smoke from the nose--unthinkable to me).
I would argue that a pipe, like whiskey, should be taken in moderation. For me there's an Epicurean component too. I use my pipe in the evening, outside on a deck while watching the skies. A fully satisfying experience. If I was forced to quit my pipe and given the option of cigarette use or no tobacco use, I would opt for the latter without reservation. I don't like to be around cigarette smoke and see no contradiction in that.
Something else current in the news: Nicotine may inhibit the penetration and spread of the virus and have a prophylactic effect in COVID-19 infection. Admittedly the study was in France but does give one pause.
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Post by Zach on Jan 12, 2022 18:57:05 GMT -5
Very good points, Henry. Pipe and cigar smokers can blow smoke out of the nose to incorporate the olfactory receptors as well without inhaling into the lungs. This is called either retrohaling, or snorking. When you read tobacco reviews of pipe tobacco or cigars and you see someone note the profile on the "retrohale," this is what is meant. The flavor/scent sensation overall from tasting and smelling the smoke on the exhale.
All things in moderation. I think for most pipe smokers in the modern age, pipe smoking is more of a hobby than a habit and that many folks these days do tend to only smoke one pipe in the evening after dinner somewhat in the way that a gentleman may take one glass of whiskey after dinner and this works fine for most people. I'm personally more in the camp of a traditional pipeman where if I can, I smoke many pipes all throughout the day but I don't often exceed a high of 7-8 bowls per day. I often average 3-4 pipes per day. I smoke as I wish and the cut off is based on various things, such as the time of day I've got and how busy I am with family, errands, other obligations. I also chew twist tobacco and have been known on occasions to pick up dipping snuff, snus, and chewing. Nasal snuff is too finicky for me and causes me too many allergies and after years of dabbling with that I gave that up as not worth the hassle. I tend to only smoke pipes and cigars but these days when I want a chew, I slice off some Gawith brown bogie or Rum Twist and chew a coin of that. It's much faster and harder hitting with the nicotine than slowly smoking the same twist so it can give you the nicotine spins and panic really quickly if you've not got a tolerance to chewing.
To your last point, nicotine does have anti bacterial/viral/microbial properties and at various points in the past has been used as treatment for ailments and pipe companies such as BBB of England have put out advertisements to make sure to smoke your pipe during flu seasons.
Thank you for your inputs and I agree with you on all points.
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Post by henry on Jan 12, 2022 20:04:00 GMT -5
retrohaling -- I learned something today. Guess I associate pipe use with drink tasting too much to ever snorkel. [-- resisted a smart crack about shotgunning here]
Pipe tobacco really is a taste experience for me; the nicotine is part of the feel good, but a smaller part. Back in the Pleistocene I used snus for a time & can remember when it was cool to have a can imprint on a young man's back jeans pocket.
There's also a very strong association of pipe use with leisure for me. None of my pipe stems have tooth marks. Maybe I'm a dilettante.
Cheers Zach.
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Post by urbino on Jan 13, 2022 1:01:06 GMT -5
retrohaling -- I learned something today. Guess I associate pipe use with drink tasting too much to ever snorkel. [-- resisted a smart crack about shotgunning here] Pipe tobacco really is a taste experience for me; the nicotine is part of the feel good, but a smaller part. Back in the Pleistocene I used snus for a time & can remember when it was cool to have a can imprint on a young man's back jeans pocket. There's also a very strong association of pipe use with leisure for me. None of my pipe stems have tooth marks. Maybe I'm a dilettante. Cheers Zach. I rarely notice any nicotine effect, so that's certainly not what interests me. It's the taste and routine and process. "Ceremony" is too strong a word, but something between "routine" and that.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 13, 2022 4:49:16 GMT -5
retrohaling -- I learned something today. Guess I associate pipe use with drink tasting too much to ever snorkel. [-- resisted a smart crack about shotgunning here] Pipe tobacco really is a taste experience for me; the nicotine is part of the feel good, but a smaller part. Back in the Pleistocene I used snus for a time & can remember when it was cool to have a can imprint on a young man's back jeans pocket. There's also a very strong association of pipe use with leisure for me. None of my pipe stems have tooth marks. Maybe I'm a dilettante. Cheers Zach. I rarely notice any nicotine effect, so that's certainly not what interests me. It's the taste and routine and process. "Ceremony" is too strong a word, but something between "routine" and that. That's exactly what it is for me too. It's the ritual, for me.
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Post by rastewart on Jan 13, 2022 19:21:37 GMT -5
I would just add to all the good comments here that, at present, we pipe smokers are such a small portion of the tobacco-using world that I don't think it likely that anyone will bother to construct, propose, or fund a study on us in the foreseeable future. My doctor asks me every time I see him if I'm still smoking a pipe, but he's not especially concerned as long as I'm doing it in moderation. I think my dentist is probably more worried about it than my doctor is, and even with him it's not a big issue.
Something else will get me first, I'm pretty sure.
Edited to add: As to health benefits, pipe smoking is certainly not as good for me as eating well, getting enough sleep (ha-ha, as if), and doing some regular exercise; but I figure anything that relaxes me and gives me a sense of pleasure and contentment is doing me some good.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 13, 2022 20:05:28 GMT -5
+1 When the Ebola scare was going on, Arizona State University was using tobacco to a certain degree of success. news.asu.edu/content/asus-connection-new-ebola-drugAnd there have been stories posted online where tobacco users have a lower incidence of death resulting from Covid. Sadly, the leaf has been demonized for decades, and there are too many organizations that have sucked on the teat of grant money and support to ever concede that tobacco might have some positive effects... and the general public is either too lazy or too stupid as they swallow the talking points peddled by the media.
I think every herb on GOD's green earth his here for our benefit, but greed by big pharma in collusion with the vermin that live on grant money and corrupt journalists that are too lazy to truly "follow the science", the fix is in. Big tobacco has been no help either, as they are motivated by addicted cigarette smokers rather than pursuing research in regards to the benefits of pure leaf.
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Post by urbino on Jan 13, 2022 21:17:46 GMT -5
I rarely notice any nicotine effect, so that's certainly not what interests me. It's the taste and routine and process. "Ceremony" is too strong a word, but something between "routine" and that. That's exactly what it is for me too. It's the ritual, for me. "Ritual." There's the word!
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Post by trailboss on Jan 13, 2022 21:22:55 GMT -5
The native Americans figured it out with the Peyote...maybe we should go the same route. I have had many "religious experiences" with a great bowl of tobacco.
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Post by adui on Jan 13, 2022 21:28:14 GMT -5
The native Americans figured it out with the Peyote...maybe we should go the same route. I have had many "religious experiences" with a great bowl of tobacco. For the most part it is a ritual with me. Outside of the pipe club meetings I rarely pack a bowl unless I have a full half hour to spend enjoying the ritual. Not always smoking the whole time, just sitting, reflecting, and enjoying the experience.
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Post by urbino on Jan 13, 2022 22:01:43 GMT -5
The native Americans figured it out with the Peyote...maybe we should go the same route. I have had many "religious experiences" with a great bowl of tobacco. For the most part it is a ritual with me. Outside of the pipe club meetings I rarely pack a bowl unless I have a full half hour to spend enjoying the ritual. Not always smoking the whole time, just sitting, reflecting, and enjoying the experience. Yup. I almost never "squeeze in" a bowl. Lighting the pipe is a leisure activity.
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Post by adui on Jan 13, 2022 22:27:52 GMT -5
For the most part it is a ritual with me. Outside of the pipe club meetings I rarely pack a bowl unless I have a full half hour to spend enjoying the ritual. Not always smoking the whole time, just sitting, reflecting, and enjoying the experience. Yup. I almost never "squeeze in" a bowl. Lighting the pipe is a leisure activity. Thats why I go from three + bowls a day to one bowl a week at times.. If the weather isnt right, or if my mood isnt right, or if I just dont have time I dont partake
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Post by urbino on Jan 13, 2022 22:37:56 GMT -5
Yup. I almost never "squeeze in" a bowl. Lighting the pipe is a leisure activity. Thats why I go from three + bowls a day to one bowl a week at times.. If the weather isnt right, or if my mood isnt right, or if I just dont have time I dont partake Yup. It's why my daily average is less than 1 bowl a day.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 14, 2022 8:22:23 GMT -5
It is interesting to me how many of us seem to be using tobacco, and the pipe, in a way that has much in common with how the Indians used it: for thought, reflection, perhaps for decision-making, relaxation, the ‘centering’ of a ritual, and of course for the pleasure of it. Most of the images we have of Indian pipe usage show a communal setting. (See the wonderful art of Howard Terpning.) And we have our pipe clubs, perhaps not so spiritual, but still a kind of fellowship. Perhaps the ‘Indian herb’ speaks to all who use it in much the same way.
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Post by Zach on Jan 14, 2022 11:43:42 GMT -5
+1 When the Ebola scare was going on, Arizona State University was using tobacco to a certain degree of success. news.asu.edu/content/asus-connection-new-ebola-drugAnd there have been stories posted online where tobacco users have a lower incidence of death resulting from Covid. Sadly, the leaf has been demonized for decades, and there are too many organizations that have sucked on the teat of grant money and support to ever concede that tobacco might have some positive effects... and the general public is either too lazy or too stupid as they swallow the talking points peddled by the media.
I think every herb on GOD's green earth his here for our benefit, but greed by big pharma in collusion with the vermin that live on grant money and corrupt journalists that are too lazy to truly "follow the science", the fix is in. Big tobacco has been no help either, as they are motivated by addicted cigarette smokers rather than pursuing research in regards to the benefits of pure leaf. Tobacco is what is deemed a "model plant" in studying the mechanisms of virology. In your reference here it is not referring to using tobacco as in smoking or consuming tobacco but rather it means that vaccines are being made inside tobacco plants. Viral and bacterial particles are fed to young tobacco plants and Nicotiana Tabacum is great at then producing antibodies, the tobacco plants are then purée'd and the antibodies are purified and extracted from the mash. This is how ebola vaccines are made and there are several trials currently for COVID vaccines made this way as well. The last I checked, they were not being used because the mRNA are being targeted and approved faster. Flu vaccines, ebola and others are able to be made by producing antibodies from tobacco plants. By these methods, tobacco plants have saved tons of lives in the fight against ebola.
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