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Post by johnlawitzke on Jan 13, 2022 20:20:02 GMT -5
I always knew the day would be coming… another pipe smoker here in a Michigan has reported that P&C charged them the Michigan 30% state tobacco excise tax. After sales tax started getting collected online a while back, I knew this day was coming.
Before anyone starts complaining, purchasers have always been legally required to pay this tax themselves. Since no one did, it was inevitable that they’d start requiring online retailers to collect it. At least, this helps to level the playing field for B&Ms as they have to collect the state tax.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 13, 2022 20:29:49 GMT -5
You stated it all very well, John.
A sad reality, but it is what it is. As the gap narrows between online purchases and your local tobacconist, it behooves the pipe smoker to support the local tobacconist.
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Post by urbino on Jan 13, 2022 21:02:17 GMT -5
Unless somebody opens a local one, my business will still go online.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 13, 2022 21:13:06 GMT -5
Unless somebody opens a local one, my business will still go online. I hear ya bro...not all of us are in the same boat. It is all relative to whatever locale you live in...I have seen where people will choose to buy online because it is a dollar per tin cheaper online than the local tobacconist. |
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Post by adui on Jan 13, 2022 21:30:22 GMT -5
Unless somebody opens a local one, my business will still go online. So what you are saying is when I win the lotto I need to open a B&M in your neighborhood...  They say I have to play to win, who knew?  |
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Post by qmechanics on Jan 15, 2022 19:43:19 GMT -5
You stated it all very well, John. A sad reality, but it is what it is. As the gap narrows between online purchases and your local tobacconist, it behooves the pipe smoker to support the local tobacconist. If you have one .. The closest shop, that sells pipe tobacco, to me is 1 1/2 hours away. They carry mostly their own blends, leaving me to look towards Kansas City ~2 1/2 hrs away for more variety. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2022 20:17:04 GMT -5
Yeah, some of us have more options locally.
I wish it was the same for all.
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2022 20:21:35 GMT -5
I always knew the day would be coming… another pipe smoker here in a Michigan has reported that P&C charged them the Michigan 30% state tobacco excise tax. After sales tax started getting collected online a while back, I knew this day was coming. Before anyone starts complaining, purchasers have always been legally required to pay this tax themselves. Since no one did, it was inevitable that they’d start requiring online retailers to collect it. At least, this helps to level the playing field for B&Ms as they have to collect the state tax. I was charged IN state excise tax with my last purchase of 3 tins of Sutliff Crumble Kake #3 from tobaccopipes.com |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2022 20:25:20 GMT -5
Yeah… an online tobacconist has to comply, or they will be out of business in short order. A state AG has pretty much unlimited resources to go after someone.
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2022 20:36:50 GMT -5
We all owe a ton for our past 10 (or 20, depending on how long you've bought tobacco online) years of online purchases anyway, I'm actually quite happy to see they're adding this to online purchases.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2022 20:37:33 GMT -5
We all owe a ton for our past 10 years of online purchases anyway, I'm actually quite happy to see they're adding this to online purchases. You are more than welcome to my share. |
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Post by Zach on Jan 15, 2022 20:39:22 GMT -5
Well I just mean I'd rather be paying it going forward than having the tax man cometh after 10+ years. I mean, of course I've paid all my excise taxes all these years, and what money?!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2022 20:44:19 GMT -5
Well I just mean I'd rather be paying it going forward than having the tax man cometh after 10+ years. I mean, of course I've paid all my excise taxes all these years, and what money?! I really can't imagine that happining, at least not in Texas. I don't know where you live, but I don't think it makes sense for any state to go after individuals. The cost to collect would exceed the amount collected. I doubt that they have the recorders of your tobacco purchases, and the stores can easily lose their records after a year or so. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2022 20:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I can see both points.
But, if the states start collecting dues, better to start with a clean slate going forward…. At that point at least you can calculate your expenditures without the fear of a bottom feeder coming after you.
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Post by exbenedict on Jan 17, 2022 21:36:50 GMT -5
It's been a thing here in NY for a while. It is what it is.
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Post by Silver on Jan 17, 2022 22:13:15 GMT -5
Got hit with it when I placed an order with P&C today. 10 bucks and change for 5x50g tins of OGS.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 18, 2022 6:02:51 GMT -5
Welcome to the UK.
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Post by booknpipe on Mar 8, 2022 14:24:42 GMT -5
I hadn't purchased anything online since I saw this thread. Stopped at Walgreens and picked up a pouch of CBW. $15+. Got me wondering about how much tax I'd pay online. Just spent $50 ($30 of which was tobacco) and paid only IA state sales tax. $2.94. I guess I should stock up!
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