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Post by thatbobmadison on Jan 14, 2024 17:27:57 GMT -5
The remake has many improvements in the cast. I prefer Jeff Corey as Tom Chaney. His whining was much more heartfelt. "Everything happens to me. Now I am shot by a child." Both Lucky Ned Peppers were great. Dennis Hopper was the better Moon. Both Stonehills were great but Strother Martin has the edge. I liked Glenn Campbell as Ranger La Boeuf but Matt Damon has the edge on that role. As for Mattie, no question Hailee was perfect. Agreed on most counts. I think pretty much everybody in the original has the edge on the remake, Corey and Martin, especially. Glen Campbell couldn't act for sh*t, but somehow Matt Damon came down to his level. I'd call the Mattie performances a wash. I think the original Mattie had the edge; so did the Duke. But I love both films fine.
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Post by urbino on Jan 14, 2024 18:38:24 GMT -5
Agreed on most counts. I think pretty much everybody in the original has the edge on the remake, Corey and Martin, especially. Glen Campbell couldn't act for sh*t, but somehow Matt Damon came down to his level. I'd call the Mattie performances a wash. I think the original Mattie had the edge; so did the Duke. But I love both films fine. My only objection to the original Mattie is her accent didn't really fit. As prim and proper as her character was raised to be, I sort of chalked it up to her having been intentionally taught a more proper accent, but it still wasn't quite believable to me.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 14, 2024 19:54:27 GMT -5
I think the original Mattie had the edge; so did the Duke. But I love both films fine. My only objection to the original Mattie is her accent didn't really fit. As prim and proper as her character was raised to be, I sort of chalked it up to her having been intentionally taught a more proper accent, but it still wasn't quite believable to me. I do not know if that was her swimming the horse across the river or a stunt double. I believed it when I saw it. Take some guts to swim a horse.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 17, 2024 9:34:58 GMT -5
I think the original Mattie had the edge; so did the Duke. But I love both films fine. My only objection to the original Mattie is her accent didn't really fit. As prim and proper as her character was raised to be, I sort of chalked it up to her having been intentionally taught a more proper accent, but it still wasn't quite believable to me. She sounded Western to me. No Arkansas girl would speak as she did, at least none that I have known and I have known a few, whew! Turns out, Miss Kim is from Los Angeles, CA.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 17, 2024 10:53:35 GMT -5
I may carry a Hi Power now but I do know SAs. And Wayne always had the edge on anybody else with a SA Colt. Just the way handled it you knew he was the real deal. Nobody else comes close.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 17, 2024 12:17:41 GMT -5
I may carry a Hi Power now but I do know SAs. And Wayne always had the edge on anybody else with a SA Colt. Just the way handled it you knew he was the real deal. Nobody else comes close. He seemed quite comfortable with the 4.625 inch SA Colt.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 17, 2024 13:35:55 GMT -5
4.625” is the Ruger. The “civilian” Colt was 4.75”.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 17, 2024 13:45:11 GMT -5
My only objection to the original Mattie is her accent didn't really fit. As prim and proper as her character was raised to be, I sort of chalked it up to her having been intentionally taught a more proper accent, but it still wasn't quite believable to me. She sounded Western to me. No Arkansas girl would speak as she did, at least none that I have known and I have known a few, whew! Turns out, Miss Kim is from Los Angeles, CA. At the time the movie is set, the accents of the people of Arkansas were not set. They were all from different parts of the country, and even areas 20 miles apart could have different dialects as there was little communication and no radio or television to even the field. She had a particular precise and educated way of speaking, which would move her into a very small population.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 17, 2024 17:26:46 GMT -5
4.625” is the Ruger. The “civilian” Colt was 4.75”. Thanks, Bob.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 17, 2024 17:31:06 GMT -5
She sounded Western to me. No Arkansas girl would speak as she did, at least none that I have known and I have known a few, whew! Turns out, Miss Kim is from Los Angeles, CA. At the time the movie is set, the accents of the people of Arkansas were not set. They were all from different parts of the country, and even areas 20 miles apart could have different dialects as there was little communication and no radio or television to even the field. She had a particular precise and educated way of speaking, which would move her into a very small population. Perhaps so. The Arkansas women I have known all had a Southern twang. Not as deep as say Alabama but enough to hear.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 17, 2024 20:08:12 GMT -5
At the time the movie is set, the accents of the people of Arkansas were not set. They were all from different parts of the country, and even areas 20 miles apart could have different dialects as there was little communication and no radio or television to even the field. She had a particular precise and educated way of speaking, which would move her into a very small population. Perhaps so. The Arkansas women I have known all had a Southern twang. Not as deep as say Alabama but enough to hear. Yep, I agree. My first trip to Arkansas was in 1968 and I thought they were really backwards hicks and I could barely understand them. I've grown up a lot since then and spent more time there. The state has advanced more than I. I really enjoy the people and country. People get a lot bad ideas about different places. Growing up in a much smaller but still huge Houston, I was pretty citified. Boy Scouts and 728 nights in the woods, followed by working all over the country enlightened me. Slow is not stupid. They have a relaxed general Southern accent for the most part. Up around Bentonville, it is a bit more upper class southern. If you ever get a chance, be sure to visit the Crystal Bridges art museum.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 17, 2024 20:09:54 GMT -5
Watched Daughter of the Wolf with Gina Carcano and Richard Dreyfus. 7/10
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Post by toshtego on Jan 24, 2024 10:44:45 GMT -5
"Pork Chop Hill", 1959, with Gregory Peck and a host of recognizable including the great Rip Torn who was a Veteran of that campaign and Woody Strode. One of the last battles before the truce. True story. I saw it in a theater with the folks when first released. Good to see it again as an adult. Lewis Milestone directed memorable war movies containing truth and poignancy.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 24, 2024 23:03:35 GMT -5
Convicts Four. 1963. Ben Gazarra and a great supporting cast.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 25, 2024 23:43:53 GMT -5
Watched NEWS OF THE WORLD tonight. Tom Hanks. A distinctly minor effort.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 28, 2024 8:15:07 GMT -5
Watched The Holdovers when price dropped on Prime, thought it was gonna be flaky, NOPE, Damn fine movie,
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 28, 2024 11:11:20 GMT -5
Watched THE NORTHMAN last night. Another Viking epic. Good cast. Supposedly very well researched on Viking culture, myths, etc. I thought it was kinda slow and that the script— striving for a “period” feel— was a bit clunky. Willem Dafoe starts as a risqué court jester and ends as a shrunken head, so that was fun.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 15:45:25 GMT -5
Watched THE NORTHMAN last night. Another Viking epic. Good cast. Supposedly very well researched on Viking culture, myths, etc. I thought it was kinda slow and that the script— striving for a “period” feel— was a bit clunky. Willem Dafoe starts as a risqué court jester and ends as a shrunken head, so that was fun. You talk about slow, try life in the 10th century. Years of total boredom with moments of sheer terror. I would have gone Viking too. If there's going to be trouble, I want to start it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 15:49:09 GMT -5
Captain Blood, 1935. Made Errol Flynn a star. Great work by our favorite pipe smoker, Basil Rathbone.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 16:55:31 GMT -5
Remember the Night with Fred MacMurry and Barbara Stanwyck.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 28, 2024 18:50:28 GMT -5
Saints and Soldiers: The Void. A WWII movie starring two T-18 Hellcat Tank Destroyers. It is late in the war and the Germans are just about finished. A pocket of resistance containing a collection of old Panzers must be taken and these are the guys sent to do the job. Good tank battle scenes. The Continental built Wright Whirlwind 9 cylinder air cooled engines whine over this one. This is further proof I have entered my second childhood. I grew up on WWII and Korea movies and really enjoyed them.
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 19:13:43 GMT -5
Saints and Soldiers: The Void. A WWII movie starring two T-18 Hellcat Tank Destroyers. It is late in the war and the Germans are just about finished. A pocket of resistance containing a collection of old Panzers must be taken and these are the guys sent to do the job. Good tank battle scenes. The Continental built Wright Whirlwind 9 cylinder air cooled engines whine over this one. This is further proof I have entered my second childhood. I grew up on WWII and Korea movies and really enjoyed them. My older brother and I were kind of obsessed with WWII when we were kids. We'd get in the floor and flip through the encyclopedia looking for planes, tanks, bombs, etc. (Battles and strategy were a little beyond us.) We memorized the names and features. We built the models. I've forgotten most of it, to be honest, but I still occasionally get caught off-guard by how little younger folks know about it; how distant it is to them. That's okay. It is a lot more distant from them.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 21:22:15 GMT -5
Saints and Soldiers: The Void. A WWII movie starring two T-18 Hellcat Tank Destroyers. It is late in the war and the Germans are just about finished. A pocket of resistance containing a collection of old Panzers must be taken and these are the guys sent to do the job. Good tank battle scenes. The Continental built Wright Whirlwind 9 cylinder air cooled engines whine over this one. This is further proof I have entered my second childhood. I grew up on WWII and Korea movies and really enjoyed them. We are the right age, to have the movies and missed the war.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 21:24:20 GMT -5
Saints and Soldiers: The Void. A WWII movie starring two T-18 Hellcat Tank Destroyers. It is late in the war and the Germans are just about finished. A pocket of resistance containing a collection of old Panzers must be taken and these are the guys sent to do the job. Good tank battle scenes. The Continental built Wright Whirlwind 9 cylinder air cooled engines whine over this one. This is further proof I have entered my second childhood. I grew up on WWII and Korea movies and really enjoyed them. My older brother and I were kind of obsessed with WWII when we were kids. We'd get in the floor and flip through the encyclopedia looking for planes, tanks, bombs, etc. (Battles and strategy were a little beyond us.) We memorized the names and features. We built the models. I've forgotten most of it, to be honest, but I still occasionally get caught off-guard by how little younger folks know about it; how distant it is to them. That's okay. It is a lot more distant from them. I had a reproduction of a British plane identification poster on my wall with the silhouettes of the war planes. Never saw a single one fly over Houston.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 29, 2024 11:13:39 GMT -5
My uncle gave me a huge box of molded plane ID models. I don’t know what the material was, some kind of bakelite I think. Eventually all the models shrank, warped, cracked and were thrown away. They were designed to hang from the ceiling of a briefing room. Quite large, the Betty (and the Zero to same scale) was about 18” long. I wish they would have held up.
During an airshow nearby about 25 years ago I heard some strange engine sounds and looked up to see a wing of 4 Focke-Wulfs passing over.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 29, 2024 18:02:17 GMT -5
"Lawman", 1971, Burt Lancaster. Well done Western. Same year he made "Valdez is Coming". Another great one.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 29, 2024 19:43:27 GMT -5
Well, Joihn has let me down. It’s a quote from THE WIND & THE LION.
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Post by urbino on Jan 29, 2024 20:02:48 GMT -5
Well, Joihn has let me down. It’s a quote from THE WIND & THE LION. That John. He's no darn good.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 29, 2024 20:19:20 GMT -5
What I done now, Massah?
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Post by toshtego on Jan 29, 2024 20:20:09 GMT -5
My uncle gave me a huge box of molded plane ID models. I don’t know what the material was, some kind of bakelite I think. Eventually all the models shrank, warped, cracked and were thrown away. They were designed to hang from the ceiling of a briefing room. Quite large, the Betty (and the Zero to same scale) was about 18” long. I wish they would have held up. During an airshow nearby about 25 years ago I heard some strange engine sounds and looked up to see a wing of 4 Focke-Wulfs passing over. That would be quite a sight and sound.
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