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Post by Silver on Dec 11, 2023 19:34:12 GMT -5
Arrived: Paul's Cayuga pipe. I was starting to wonder about it since I hadn't received any kind of shipping notification, but here it is and it's nicer looking than in their photo. (Maybe better photography would improve business?) It's also bigger than it looked, but still quite light. I'll try to take a good pic at some point. They also tossed in 2 oz. of their 95th Anniversary Blend. Some kind of nice-smelling aromatic. According to ye olde spreadsheet, this is officially my 100th pipe. Time to celebrate! Maybe buy a couple new pipes.  |
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Post by urbino on Dec 11, 2023 19:57:55 GMT -5
According to ye olde spreadsheet, this is officially my 100th pipe. Time to celebrate! Maybe buy a couple new pipes. I thought it meant I get the pipe of my choice for free. |
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Post by Silver on Dec 11, 2023 20:32:08 GMT -5
Time to celebrate! Maybe buy a couple new pipes. I thought it meant I get the pipe of my choice for free. You got 100 to choose from. |
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Post by urbino on Dec 11, 2023 20:50:08 GMT -5
I thought it meant I get the pipe of my choice for free. You got 100 to choose from. Fair enough. |
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Post by urbino on Dec 11, 2023 22:15:15 GMT -5
Oh, and this also arrived. Plan to hang it in my office at work:  |
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Post by urbino on Dec 11, 2023 23:01:26 GMT -5
I just noticed my Paul's Cayuga pipe is stamped "Italy" on the bottom of the shank. Aren't these made there in the shop?
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 11, 2023 23:07:01 GMT -5
I just noticed my Paul's Cayuga pipe is stamped "Italy" on the bottom of the shank. Aren't these made there in the shop? I think that they are made to his specs and finished in the shop. But I'm curious too. |
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Post by Silver on Dec 11, 2023 23:12:32 GMT -5
I just noticed my Paul's Cayuga pipe is stamped "Italy" on the bottom of the shank. Aren't these made there in the shop? I looked at mine. My freehands with plateaux are also stamped "Italy". The more traditional shapes (Rhodesian and pot) are not. I knew that another line, Spaniola's, are made in Italy for Paul's. |
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Post by urbino on Dec 11, 2023 23:20:44 GMT -5
Interesting. Mine is definitely in the Cayuga line. I guess maybe all the nontraditional shapes are made in the old country.
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Post by Silver on Dec 11, 2023 23:38:42 GMT -5
Interesting. Mine is definitely in the Cayuga line. I guess maybe all the nontraditional shapes are made in the old country. Maybe johnlawitzke can shed some light on the matter. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 12, 2023 0:31:02 GMT -5
Oh, and this also arrived. Plan to hang it in my office at work: I asked my son about this. He insisted that he has flawed code. Sigh. |
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Post by urbino on Dec 12, 2023 0:42:26 GMT -5
Oh, and this also arrived. Plan to hang it in my office at work: I asked my son about this. He insisted that he has flawed code. Sigh. Can't imagine where he got that contrarian streak. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 12, 2023 0:42:56 GMT -5
I asked my son about this. He insisted that he has flawed code. Sigh. Can't imagine where he got that contrarian streak. 😂 I'm sending him to you. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 12, 2023 18:33:28 GMT -5
Can't imagine where he got that contrarian streak.  |
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Post by johnlawitzke on Dec 12, 2023 22:27:42 GMT -5
Interesting. Mine is definitely in the Cayuga line. I guess maybe all the nontraditional shapes are made in the old country. Maybe johnlawitzke can shed some light on the matter. Yes, because you’re all wrong. 🤪😉😂 It's complex…. Paul started making pipes decades and decades ago. The shop didn’t get a frazing machine to make stummels from blocks until about 2010 when Dan bought out most of Tom Cristiano's warehouse after Tom passed away. In the early days, Paul developed his oil curing process using existing pipes. Many early Cayugas are some obscure brand of pipe oil cured and over stamped. Paul then found where he could buy unfinished stummels or unfinished stummels with stems from distributors. (At one point he bought unfinished pipes from Herman Lane.j He'd finish the pipes, fit pre-molded stems as needed, and oil cure. Paul did make some pipes by hand from blocks, but they weren’t a ton of them and they were usually unique freehands. From this era you see stummels stamped Italy, France, and England. Some Cayugas are still made today from stocks of these stummels. Note: Sometimes you see Italy stamped on the stem and not the stummel. All that means is an Italian made pre-molded stem. Then it becomes more complex are the purchase of the Cristiano warehouse. The shop got finished Cristiano and Calabresi (Tom's other brand) pipes, finished but unstamped Cristiano and Calabresi stummels, unfinished and unstamped Cristiano and Calabresi stummels. Additionally, the frazing machines and shape master blocks for driving the frazing machine and blocks of briar. Modern Cayuga pipes can be made from any of the above (except finished pipes). Cayuga stamps with the guy smoking a pipe is the modern stamp starting from about 2012. Confused yet? A Cayuga stamped Italy on the stummel started as either an unfinished stummel bought from a distributor or an unfinished Cristiano stummel. If the Italy stamp is only on the stem, it’s an Italian made pre-molded stem and tells you nothing about the stummel. |
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Post by Silver on Dec 12, 2023 22:45:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation, John.
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Post by urbino on Dec 12, 2023 23:09:21 GMT -5
Yes, because you’re all wrong. 🤪😉😂 It's complex…. Paul started making pipes decades and decades ago. The shop didn’t get a frazing machine to make stummels from blocks until about 2010 when Dan bought out most of Tom Cristiano's warehouse after Tom passed away. In the early days, Paul developed his oil curing process using existing pipes. Many early Cayugas are some obscure brand of pipe oil cured and over stamped. Paul then found where he could buy unfinished stummels or unfinished stummels with stems from distributors. (At one point he bought unfinished pipes from Herman Lane.j He'd finish the pipes, fit pre-molded stems as needed, and oil cure. Paul did make some pipes by hand from blocks, but they weren’t a ton of them and they were usually unique freehands. From this era you see stummels stamped Italy, France, and England. Some Cayugas are still made today from stocks of these stummels. Note: Sometimes you see Italy stamped on the stem and not the stummel. All that means is an Italian made pre-molded stem. Then it becomes more complex are the purchase of the Cristiano warehouse. The shop got finished Cristiano and Calabresi (Tom's other brand) pipes, finished but unstamped Cristiano and Calabresi stummels, unfinished and unstamped Cristiano and Calabresi stummels. Additionally, the frazing machines and shape master blocks for driving the frazing machine and blocks of briar. Modern Cayuga pipes can be made from any of the above (except finished pipes). Cayuga stamps with the guy smoking a pipe is the modern stamp starting from about 2012. Confused yet? A Cayuga stamped Italy on the stummel started as either an unfinished stummel bought from a distributor or an unfinished Cristiano stummel. If the Italy stamp is only on the stem, it’s an Italian made pre-molded stem and tells you nothing about the stummel. You ought to send this to pipedia, John. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 12, 2023 23:12:25 GMT -5
Agreed^
I just looked at Pipedia, and there seems to be nothing about Cayuga pipes or Paul’s Pipe Shop.
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Post by johnlawitzke on Dec 12, 2023 23:37:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the idea. I am friends with Scott Thile who, in addition to making excellent pipes, founded and owns Pipedia. The Malaga article there was originally written by Scott and I contributed several me tweaks. Scott keeps encouraging me to write up my Malaga knowledge, too.
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Post by Silver on Dec 13, 2023 0:05:43 GMT -5
I think articles for Cayuga/Paul's and Malaga would be great additions to Pipedia! By any chance, do you have any photos of Malaga?
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Post by oldcajun123 on Dec 13, 2023 9:37:19 GMT -5
 Gonna have to slow down on cigars, bought heated vests for all my immediate family, made wife happy because last year twin son bought her one and she loves it. I don’t need one I bundle up on porch to smoke.
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Post by johnlawitzke on Dec 13, 2023 10:10:26 GMT -5
I think articles for Cayuga/Paul's and Malaga would be great additions to Pipedia! By any chance, do you have any photos of Malaga? Unfortunately, no. Malaga closed in 96 or 97; pre digital camera. The building became Michigan Toy Soldier Co. until the owner was busted for adding fraudulent charges to the charge card of a customer named Peter Jackson, Yes, THE Peter Jackson. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 13, 2023 13:51:10 GMT -5
Gonna have to slow down on cigars, bought heated vests for all my immediate family, made wife happy because last year twin son bought her one and she loves it. I don’t need one I bundle up on porch to smoke. Could you point me to ones you recommend for men? I have a couple brothers that live in chillyville USA. |
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Post by Gypo on Dec 13, 2023 14:33:56 GMT -5
Arrived: Paul's Cayuga pipe. I was starting to wonder about it since I hadn't received any kind of shipping notification, but here it is and it's nicer looking than in their photo. (Maybe better photography would improve business?) It's also bigger than it looked, but still quite light. I'll try to take a good pic at some point. They also tossed in 2 oz. of their 95th Anniversary Blend. Some kind of nice-smelling aromatic. According to ye olde spreadsheet, this is officially my 100th pipe. I am going to need a way bigger hutch in the distance future 😉 |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Dec 13, 2023 14:36:39 GMT -5
Charlie look up Voltex, they have a special if you buy more than one, even haveing to buy the battery pack extra for 20$ it's still a good deal. Daily deals is pushing them.
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Post by urbino on Dec 13, 2023 18:20:55 GMT -5
Gonna have to slow down on cigars, bought heated vests for all my immediate family, made wife happy because last year twin son bought her one and she loves it. I don’t need one I bundle up on porch to smoke. Could you point me to ones you recommend for men? I have a couple brothers that live in chillyville USA. Mine is a Venustas, Charlie. |
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Post by johnlawitzke on Dec 13, 2023 18:25:12 GMT -5
Circling back to the Cayuga discussion… the difference between Cayuga and Spaniola Pipes.
Cayugas are oil cured via briefly immersing the stummels in 410F degree oil. If there is a hidden flaw in the stummel, the stummel will fail during oil curing. Also, Cayugas receive Paul's specially developed Miracle Cake bowl coating.
Spaniola Pipes are not oil cured and get a different bowl coating. Spaniola Pipes may be made from finished, unstamped Cristiano stummels or unfinished Cristiano stummels, or stummels turned in the shop. Unfinished or turned stummels receive a light stain and traditional carnuba wax finish.
It is not uncommon to see the same stummel shape as Cayuga and Spaniola.
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Post by urbino on Dec 15, 2023 19:53:23 GMT -5
Well, after saying I wouldn't be buying anything this Xmas, I bought something this Xmas.
C&D Anthology 2023
Dunhill Shell Briar 104 (4) from 1965
Academy Award Smooth 483 (made by Comoy's, unknown year)
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Post by Silver on Dec 15, 2023 20:05:12 GMT -5
I ordered some Anthology, too. However I did not purchase a Dunhill to get the free shipping. |
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Post by urbino on Dec 15, 2023 20:07:34 GMT -5
I ordered some Anthology, too. However I did not purchase a Dunhill to get the free shipping. What a doofus. |
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Gonna have to slow down on cigars, bought heated vests for all my immediate family, made wife happy because last year twin son bought her one and she loves it. I don’t need one I bundle up on porch to smoke.
