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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 7, 2023 12:25:19 GMT -5
I don't know, but it seems to be a slow, creeping death. They are closing in an inch at a time. Maybe we need a National Pipe Association?
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Feb 7, 2023 17:41:22 GMT -5
I don't know, but it seems to be a slow, creeping death. They are closing in an inch at a time. Maybe we need a National Pipe Association? Zarnicky will join NPA. In Canada there is ban on the sale of sweet flavoured tobacco. Zarnicky getting pipe tobacco from United States. I waiting for warmer weather to starting smoking pipe again. |
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Post by rastewart on Feb 7, 2023 18:46:02 GMT -5
What fascinates me is that we love to rage against the machine and curse blights on those that want to take our tobacco away. Only they don't seem to want to take our tobacco away. There s a resurgent interest in pipes; many more blends and pipe makers than ever before. Laws against us don't ever seem to go beyond the chatter phase. Maybe we should be thankful to the cigar industry for their huge lobbying machine. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 7, 2023 19:25:16 GMT -5
What fascinates me is that we love to rage against the machine and curse blights on those that want to take our tobacco away. Only they don't seem to want to take our tobacco away. There s a resurgent interest in pipes; many more blends and pipe makers than ever before. Laws against us don't ever seem to go beyond the chatter phase. Maybe we should be thankful to the cigar industry for their huge lobbying machine. The thing that could get pipe tobacco singled out is the shady practice by some manufacturers of labeling RYO cigarette tobacco as pipe tobacco. That said, I can’t say I’m much worried. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 7, 2023 20:11:59 GMT -5
I’m too old to worry about much of anything. If they ban it I’ll just grow it.
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Post by turbocat on Feb 7, 2023 20:31:42 GMT -5
To rip off a rather famous quote,
First they came for the vaping community and since I didn’t vape, I said nothing.
Then they came for the flavored pipe tobacco and cigars in Massachusetts and elsewhere and since I didn’t live there, I said nothing.
Then they came for the menthol cigarette smokers, but since I don’t smoke menthol cigarettes, I said nothing.
Then they came for cigarette smokers, but since I don’t smoke cigarettes, I said nothing.
Then they came for pipes and cigars and there were no smokers left to speak up for me.
A small attempt at humor but every time something has been banned, the less common thing becomes the forefront. Just take a look at what Australia did with pipes tobacco and cigars.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 7, 2023 20:59:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't know who to say anything to. I guess I can send an email to Cornyn and Cruz, but I don't expect them to do anything.
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Post by turbocat on Feb 7, 2023 21:23:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't know who to say anything to. I guess I can send an email to Cornyn and Cruz, but I don't expect them to do anything. Yes, that is the difficult part. It seems that unknown officials at places like the CDC publish review after review, which gets reported on by the press, which riles up public furor. By the time it’s in front of politicians, it’s already settled. Happened that way with the bans In Massachusetts. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 7, 2023 21:39:18 GMT -5
I’m too old to worry about much of anything. If they ban it I’ll just grow it. The process and techniques involved in producing the tobaccos we enjoy are far different than growing tomatoes or green beans. I have a cellar that will outlive me, but when we get to the point that my grandkids are not allowed to purchase tobaccos, while we go full tilt towards accommodating stoners, we have lost our way. I have nothing against people that smoke weed, I have a problem when a product that does not affect motor skills and function is demonized more so. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 8, 2023 0:18:34 GMT -5
“ The process and techniques involved in producing the tobaccos we enjoy are far different than growing tomatoes or green beans.”
You don’t say. Well, if Squanto could tough it out maybe I can too.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 8, 2023 11:14:54 GMT -5
Actually, interesting point. Why don't we have a National Pipe Association?
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 8, 2023 11:24:14 GMT -5
Maybe the big sellers don’t see enough in it for them.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 8, 2023 12:41:32 GMT -5
“ The process and techniques involved in producing the tobaccos we enjoy are far different than growing tomatoes or green beans.” You don’t say. Well, if Squanto could tough it out maybe I can too. I don't know what your favorite blends are, but I'll bet they aren't as rough as Indian tobacco. |
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Post by daveinlax on Feb 8, 2023 12:51:51 GMT -5
Actually, interesting point. Why don't we have a National Pipe Association? We had an effective lobbyist that was on Altadis’ payroll but he didn’t survive the spinoff to MacBaren. Traditional pipe tobacco is a rounding error in the world of relabeled RYO “pipe tobacco” I don’t really know who who in that world. I’m going to Tobacco Plus Expo in a couple of week and I’ll ask around.  |
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Post by john on Feb 8, 2023 14:01:07 GMT -5
As the Nanny State enlarges its hold over the "free" members of the socioty we that are the minorirty of the smoking world will always feel it harshest and first. My recommendation to all is to fill your cellars to capacity, stock up on pipes, and tell the "elites" to PISS OFF!! This isn't the America I signed up to fight for in 1973, it's devolved into a bunch of whiney little piss ants that have to have their own way and inflict that way on others. Well I say ENOUGH! Been smoking a pipe for 52 years and have no desire to stop now. Like with guns, if they outlaw pipe tobacco then only outlaws will smoke pipes! Puff On Me Hearties, Puff On!! .gif) |
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Post by urbino on Feb 8, 2023 16:28:43 GMT -5
Like I said, everybody hates the “nanny state” except when they want to be the nanny.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 8, 2023 16:41:47 GMT -5
Like I said, everybody hates the “nanny state” except when they want to be the nanny. Ain't that the truth. |
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Post by zambini on Feb 13, 2023 17:34:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't know who to say anything to. I guess I can send an email to Cornyn and Cruz, but I don't expect them to do anything. If you tell them you are a life long democrat but are thinking of switching parties after hearing Biden is going after pipe tobacco they might buy into it. Cornyn strikes me as a pretty serious guy. |
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Post by zambini on Feb 13, 2023 17:37:06 GMT -5
Actually, interesting point. Why don't we have a National Pipe Association? We had an effective lobbyist that was on Altadis’ payroll but he didn’t survive the spinoff to MacBaren. Traditional pipe tobacco is a rounding error in the world of relabeled RYO “pipe tobacco” I don’t really know who who in that world. I’m going to Tobacco Plus Expo in a couple of week and I’ll ask around. Maybe it's one of those things that is easier to protect precisely because it's "uncool"? |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 13, 2023 18:10:13 GMT -5
Ban. Ban. Ban. The disease of post-modern America.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 13, 2023 19:07:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't know who to say anything to. I guess I can send an email to Cornyn and Cruz, but I don't expect them to do anything. If you tell them you are a life long democrat but are thinking of switching parties after hearing Biden is going after pipe tobacco they might buy into it. Cornyn strikes me as a pretty serious guy. Cornyn is a RINO. I'm an independent/libertarian so I don't like or trust any of them. |
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Post by georged on Apr 22, 2023 15:06:49 GMT -5
Ban. Ban. Ban. The drumbeat of hyper-controlling fascist morons goes on and on. Indeed. The only thing that SHOULD be "ban-able" are hyper-controlling fascist morons. As soon as the creatures make themselves known to society for what they are---sociopathic Machiavellian narcissists---they should be sent to someplace like Greenland (after building a ten mile high wall completely around it) that is populated ONLY by others of the same species, so they can feed upon each other in their endless quest-lust to Be In Charge. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 22, 2023 16:23:54 GMT -5
Ban. Ban. Ban. The drumbeat of hyper-controlling fascist morons goes on and on. Indeed. The only thing that SHOULD be "ban-able" are hyper-controlling fascist morons. As soon as the creatures make themselves known to society for what they are---sociopathic Machiavellian narcissists---they should be sent to someplace like Greenland (after building a ten mile high wall completely around it) that is populated ONLY by others of the same species, so they can feed upon each other in their endless quest-lust to Be In Charge. I agree on all points, but I've been told by the wife to not express myself. 🤬😁 |
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Post by exbenedict on Apr 23, 2023 19:33:16 GMT -5
Like I said, everybody hates the “nanny state” except when they want to be the nanny. no comment |
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Post by zambini on Apr 25, 2023 15:47:03 GMT -5
Like I said, everybody hates the “nanny state” except when they want to be the nanny. So true |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 25, 2023 22:15:50 GMT -5
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Post by coalsmoke on May 2, 2023 18:03:14 GMT -5
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Post by turbocat on May 2, 2023 18:15:43 GMT -5
Not surprising unfortunately, but maybe the governor thinks there aren’t enough criminals in New York so she wants to turn every smoker into one. |
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Post by trailboss on May 2, 2023 18:26:22 GMT -5
Well said, Ted.
It wasn't that long ago, the NYC police shot and killed a guy for selling loose cigarettes on the street for supposedly skirting the NY taxation laws. Then the celebrity/Politicians championed themselves as saviors of the downtrodden of victimless criminals.
NY politicians play it both ways, and the inhabitants seem to love them for it.
What a garbage pit to live in.
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Post by daveinlax on May 3, 2023 8:17:41 GMT -5
Like I said, everybody hates the “nanny state” except when they want to be the nanny. In reality it's probably more like everybody hates the nanny state until they need the nanny state to survive. Sadly I've seen this way to often. |
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