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Post by Gypo on Feb 12, 2023 17:52:16 GMT -5
My views on the right home defense weapon have varied over the years. For many decades it was my Winchester Model 1897. Then a Ruger Mini-14. Recently, I have settled on this Browning variant. I hope my permit application goes through!  I have an ex LAPD model 97 handy actually have 4 97s but only one is a true riot gun 1924. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 12, 2023 17:59:43 GMT -5
A Lewis would have been cool. If you really want a 1917, John, they go for upwards of $30k.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 12, 2023 20:47:25 GMT -5
My views on the right home defense weapon have varied over the years. For many decades it was my Winchester Model 1897. Then a Ruger Mini-14. Recently, I have settled on this Browning variant. I hope my permit application goes through! I have an ex LAPD model 97 handy actually have 4 97s but only one is a true riot gun 1924. Mine came from San Quentin in 1970. The prison had a big sale liquidating their old guns. San Francisco Gun Exchange handled it, old Nate Posner himself. I missed out on the Winchester Model 94s in .25-35. |
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Post by Gypo on Feb 12, 2023 21:14:43 GMT -5
I have an ex LAPD model 97 handy actually have 4 97s but only one is a true riot gun 1924. Mine came from San Quentin in 1970. The prison had a big sale liquidating their old guns. San Francisco Gun Exchange handled it, old Nate Posner himself. I missed out on the Winchester Model 94s in .25-35. Marked San Quentin would bring the value way up I would think. Do you still have your 97? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 12, 2023 21:29:35 GMT -5
My friend has a J. Stevens 12 ga double marked Illinois Department of Corrections. It should bring his kids some good money.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 12, 2023 21:49:46 GMT -5
I have Ray-Jays High point Fo-tay when he capped low lil’ snookie.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 12, 2023 22:31:34 GMT -5
I have Billy Bonney’s 1911. Has his initials on it.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 13, 2023 12:44:18 GMT -5
I have Billy Bonney’s 1911. Has his initials on it. I bet you do. |
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Post by toshtego on Feb 13, 2023 12:53:28 GMT -5
Mine came from San Quentin in 1970. The prison had a big sale liquidating their old guns. San Francisco Gun Exchange handled it, old Nate Posner himself. I missed out on the Winchester Model 94s in .25-35. Marked San Quentin would bring the value way up I would think. Do you still have your 97? Sold it in 2010 or so with most all my other guns. It was marked "California State Detentions Bureau". If Nate Posner of the San Francisco Gun Exchange said it was formerly at "Q", I am not disputing him. He was a credible guy. BTW, he was the gun shop proprietor who "arrested" two Commie Russian agents from the Soviet Counsel Office attempting to purchase a Mainhardt Rocket Pistol at his store. He held them at gunpoint for the SFPD and FBI. Robert Mainhardt's ill fated gun business was located in the SF Bay Area. BTW, I went to highschool with his daughter. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 13, 2023 13:59:56 GMT -5
I’m betting that the ease of plausible counterfeits makes such guns almost worthless without fool-proof documentary provenance.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 13, 2023 19:38:04 GMT -5
I’m betting that the ease of plausible counterfeits makes such guns almost worthless without fool-proof documentary provenance. Sadly that is a problem nowadays. When I purchased my Model 1897 Winchester in 1970, it was not something which happened often. Especially since the seller advertised the sale in the local newspapers. East to trace back then. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 13, 2023 19:41:13 GMT -5
Counterfeits have been around for well over a century.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 13, 2023 19:41:14 GMT -5
I’m betting that the ease of plausible counterfeits makes such guns almost worthless without fool-proof documentary provenance. Sadly that is a problem nowadays. When I purchased my Model 1897 Winchester in 1970, it was not something which happened often. Especially since the seller advertised the sale in the local newspapers. East to trace back then. My friend bought the shotgun above 79 and only paid 90 dollars for it. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 13, 2023 19:58:41 GMT -5
I remain a sceptic. Unapologetically.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 11, 2023 17:33:15 GMT -5
They sent the email out today.
Starting today, April 11, 2023, qualified individuals will be able to purchase surplus .30-06, 400 round cans; .30 Carbine in 240 round boxes; and .22 in a 500-round brick.
CMP has set a limit of 1 can for the .3006 ammunition, 2 boxes of .30 Carbine, and 2 bricks of .22 per person. Orders will be processed in a first-come, first-served sequence. Ammunition will be available via E-Store and mail order.
Item # 4S3006LCM2-400 (Limit one can per customer)
$392 per can plus $21 S&H (AK & HI S&H is $102)
Item # 4S30CARB-240 (Limit 2 boxes per customer)
$108 per box plus $12.95 S&H (AK & HI S&H is $74)
Item # 4S22PISTOL-500 (Limit 2 bricks per customer.)
$40 per brick plus $12.95 S&H (AK & HI S&H is $68.95)
*Shipping prices are per item*
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 11, 2023 18:35:07 GMT -5
No bargains there.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 11, 2023 18:44:50 GMT -5
I hear you.
I went ahead and exercised the option for the M1 and carbine ammo.
I do not “need” it, but I doubt the prices can be matched unless one reloads.
In the future I will, but for now, but purchasing is easier than chasing components and there is the time issue.
If I lived near Anniston Ala., I would certainly exercise the will call option.
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 11, 2023 18:51:29 GMT -5
My carbine is getting so darned collelctor-valuable I’m leery to shoot it a lot. And when I do I only use my HP handloads.
When you get your carbine ammo you should ship it to me for verification. 🙄
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Post by trailboss on Apr 11, 2023 19:05:49 GMT -5
My carbine is getting so darned collelctor-valuable I’m leery to shoot it a lot. And when I do I only use my HP handloads. When you get your carbine ammo you should ship it to me for verification. 🙄 Mine is an inland it has the potbelly stock (M2), milled for the trigger and I have the book on machining a trigger, but I will not go there. Now if I lived out on the plains, I might feel different about that!😂 |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 12, 2023 8:51:11 GMT -5
I remain a sceptic. Unapologetically. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 12, 2023 10:58:30 GMT -5
My carbine is getting so darned collelctor-valuable I’m leery to shoot it a lot. And when I do I only use my HP handloads. When you get your carbine ammo you should ship it to me for verification. 🙄 Love those little carbines. Years ago, our local Congressman, a good Republican and Marine officer combat veteran of Korea, advised all senior citizens to arm themselves with one. Good advice. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 12, 2023 11:58:02 GMT -5
Winchester is bringing back a version of the 1897 Trench gun. It's made in Korea, but it's affordable.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 12, 2023 13:11:52 GMT -5
Winchester is bringing back a version of the 1897 Trench gun. It's made in Korea, but it's affordable. I sure loved my M97, I could find a place for a Trench model. Darn shame I do not have the '03 Springfield bayonet any more. Good to have handy. I have a Garand bayonet, wonder if that might fit. Anyway, it will likely cost more than I care to spend but good to know. Let us hope they left the slam fire capability in place, eh? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 12, 2023 13:13:46 GMT -5
Winchester is bringing back a version of the 1897 Trench gun. It's made in Korea, but it's affordable. I sure loved my M97, I could find a place for a Trench model. Darn shame I do not have the '03 Springfield bayonet any more. Good to have handy. I have a Garand bayonet, wonder if that might fit. Anyway, it will likely cost more than I care to spend but good to know. Let us hope they left the slam fire capability in place, eh? Sadly, the new one doesn't have the bayonet mount. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 13, 2023 9:56:12 GMT -5
I sure loved my M97, I could find a place for a Trench model. Darn shame I do not have the '03 Springfield bayonet any more. Good to have handy. I have a Garand bayonet, wonder if that might fit. Anyway, it will likely cost more than I care to spend but good to know. Let us hope they left the slam fire capability in place, eh? Sadly, the new one doesn't have the bayonet mount. DRAT!!! |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 13, 2023 10:39:00 GMT -5
Getchaseff a wakizashi.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 13, 2023 11:11:38 GMT -5
I have enough blade weapons. Thank you for the suggestion. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 13, 2023 22:55:15 GMT -5
Sadly, the new one doesn't have the bayonet mount. DRAT!!! Gunbroker has a few with decent prices on some replicas. Cimarron is supposed to be coming out with a replica but I haven't heard anything else. I doubt that one could be manufactured in the USA because of the design. Probably the most unsafe trigger ever put on a shotgun, but not an unsafe gun. I had a chance to examine one my friend had over his fireplace. It belonged to his grandfather and it wasn't a Trench Gun. It's ingenious how it's made, the smooth and easy takedown and all. That said, I don't think that I would want one. There are better shotguns for hunting and home defense and bayonets are obsolete. |
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Post by username on Apr 13, 2023 23:14:34 GMT -5
Surprised with the well not sure how popular it is now as I haven’t done it in over a decade but with cowboy action shooting no one made a clone of them for that. Maybe they did and I just didn’t know about it. Welp after a quick google search it appears at one time norinco made a copy that was imported.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 13, 2023 23:32:43 GMT -5
Surprised with the well not sure how popular it is now as I haven’t done it in over a decade but with cowboy action shooting no one made a clone of them for that. Maybe they did and I just didn’t know about it. Welp after a quick google search it appears at one time norinco made a copy that was imported. Yeah, Norinco was making a lot of good cheap guns, probably with slave labor. Same with Russia. Because of politics we don't get super strong Norinco 1911 and we get to pay a thousand dollars for an AK while the rest of the world pays $50. I have a Norinco SKS from back when we were relatively friendly. |
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