Mrs. Zarnicky
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on May 30, 2023 18:17:28 GMT -5
Zarnicky studying English as second language. Is very difficult.
English is crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant, no ham in hamburger, and no apple or pine in pineapple. English muffins not invented in England. French fries not invented in France. Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads not sweet and are meat meat.
You taking English for granted but Zarnicky exploring and finding that quicksand can working slowly, boxing rings are square and Guinea pig not from Guinea and not pig.
Why writers write but fingers not fing, grocers don't groce and hamsters don't ham?
If plural of tooth is teeth why plural of booth not beeth?
One goose to geese, so one moose, two meese? If teachers taught, why preachers not praught? If vegetarian eating vegetables, what a humanitarian eating?
Zarnicky thinking all English speakers should be sent to Siberia. There they having asylum for verbally insane.
In Canada and US, people having noses that run and feet that smell.
How can a slim chance and a fat chance be same thing while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?
It crazy language! How can house burn up as it burns down? How you filling in form by filling form out?
How can alarm go off by going on? When stars are out, they visible but when lights are out, they invisible. Why “Buick” not rhyming with “quick”?
Teacher giving Zarnicky homework. I not knowing how to explaining sentences she giving me.
Here is small example. Please helping Zarnicky explain.
1> The bandage was wound around the wound.
2> The farm was used to produce produce.
3> The dump was so full that it had to refuse refuse.
Is many more examples but Zanricky starting with these 3.
I think I go smoke pipe now.
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Post by turbocat on May 30, 2023 18:37:25 GMT -5
Considering phonetically doesn’t even start with an f and ironically, the two o’s in cooperate insist on having different sounds, you’re in for a long, hard ride.
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Post by turbocat on May 30, 2023 18:50:38 GMT -5
Even among English as a first language speakers, the amount of people who confuse to and too is amazing two me.
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Post by turbocat on May 30, 2023 18:59:38 GMT -5
What has four letters, occasionally has twelve letters, always has six letters, but never has five letters
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Post by turbocat on May 30, 2023 19:01:10 GMT -5
 Alright, I’ll stop now. |
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Post by urbino on May 30, 2023 19:39:15 GMT -5
Don't get me started on "ough".
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Post by Ronv69 on May 30, 2023 21:32:13 GMT -5
What has four letters, occasionally has twelve letters, always has six letters, but never has five letters That question. |
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Post by Plainsman on May 30, 2023 22:10:24 GMT -5
English is the most powerful language in the world, partly because it has been and is a skillful thief from other tongues. French, Spanish, German, Italian, et al will cry foul but none of them have the breadth, depth, and flexibility of English. But it is damned hard to learn as an adult. I am always very impressed when an Oriental manages it with style and grace. And it still boggles the mind to know that Joseph Conrad began the study of English at the age of 21 I believe it was. Amazing. Must have been the fact that he was a pipe-smoker.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 30, 2023 23:09:12 GMT -5
English is the most powerful language in the world, partly because it has been and is a skillful thief from other tongues. French, Spanish, German, Italian, et al will cry foul but none of them have the breadth, depth, and flexibility of English. But it is damned hard to learn as an adult. I am always very impressed when an Oriental manages it with style and grace. And it still boggles the mind to know that Joseph Conrad began the study of English at the age of 21 I believe it was. Amazing. Must have been the fact that he was a pipe-smoker. Et al.” is short for the Latin term “et alia,. 😁 |
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Post by urbino on May 31, 2023 0:17:12 GMT -5
English is the most powerful language in the world, partly because it has been and is a skillful thief from other tongues. French, Spanish, German, Italian, et al will cry foul but none of them have the breadth, depth, and flexibility of English. But it is damned hard to learn as an adult. I am always very impressed when an Oriental manages it with style and grace. And it still boggles the mind to know that Joseph Conrad began the study of English at the age of 21 I believe it was. Amazing. Must have been the fact that he was a pipe-smoker. Nabokov was late to the language, too, I think. |
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Mrs. Zarnicky
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First Name: Anichka
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on May 31, 2023 6:39:20 GMT -5
What has four letters, occasionally has twelve letters, always has six letters, but never has five letters It taking Zarnicky some time to getting your joke. Oooh! You a clever boy. Zarnicky giving you big smooch!  |
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Post by The Wizzard on May 31, 2023 6:48:31 GMT -5
English is the most powerful language in the world, partly because it has been and is a skillful thief from other tongues. French, Spanish, German, Italian, et al will cry foul but none of them have the breadth, depth, and flexibility of English. But it is damned hard to learn as an adult. I am always very impressed when an Oriental manages it with style and grace. And it still boggles the mind to know that Joseph Conrad began the study of English at the age of 21 I believe it was. Amazing. Must have been the fact that he was a pipe-smoker. I had no idea that Joseph Conrad was Ukrainian. Thank you so much for your post. |
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Post by urbino on May 31, 2023 13:57:03 GMT -5
I thought Conrad was Polish.
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Post by Plainsman on May 31, 2023 13:58:40 GMT -5
You thought right.
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Post by urbino on May 31, 2023 14:11:13 GMT -5
Ah, I see, now. He was born and grew up in what was Ukraine at the time, Poland having been divvied up among its three imperial neighbors. Ethnically and linguistically, though, he was Polish.
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Post by zambini on May 31, 2023 20:55:14 GMT -5
My personal favorite is why you play during a recital but recite during a play.
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Post by trailboss on May 31, 2023 22:49:14 GMT -5
Ah, I see, now. He was born and grew up in what was Ukraine at the time, Poland having been divvied up among its three imperial neighbors. Ethnically and linguistically, though, he was Polish. I remember listing to Conrad as Marshall Dillon on the armed forces radio network when we lived in Germany, when I found out about James Arness on TV, I thought him an imposter… grew on me though. Trivia: James Arness and Peter Graves were brothers. |
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Post by Silver on May 31, 2023 22:53:49 GMT -5
Ah, I see, now. He was born and grew up in what was Ukraine at the time, Poland having been divvied up among its three imperial neighbors. Ethnically and linguistically, though, he was Polish. I remember listing to Conrad as Marshall Dillon on the armed forces radio network when we lived in Germany, when I found out about James Arness on TV, I thought him an imposter… grew on me though. Trivia: James Arness and Peter Graves were brothers. You're thinking of William Conrad, who also played Cannon in the early 70s. A favorite of Jiminks. |
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Post by trailboss on May 31, 2023 22:55:40 GMT -5
Yes I am!
Missed the Joseph, focused on Conrad.
Not familiar with Joseph.
Edit: just checked… Joseph and Bob are contemporaries, so that explains it.
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Post by Plainsman on Jun 1, 2023 14:34:55 GMT -5
Yes, we enjoyed many bowls together. Some were tobacco. Charlie, you need to read HEART OF DARKNESS. It will stay with you. LORD JIM is another. Careful though— it’s easy to become a Conrad junky.
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Post by turbocat on Jun 2, 2023 0:31:30 GMT -5
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Post by CrustyCat on Jun 2, 2023 6:22:34 GMT -5
Or you drive on a parkway and park in a driveway..
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 2, 2023 7:39:10 GMT -5
I really feel for people trying to learn English. It's quite illogical.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 2, 2023 12:39:01 GMT -5
I really feel for people trying to learn English. It's quite illogical. Northern Ireland English is a whole 'nother thang! |
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Post by urbino on Jun 2, 2023 13:50:08 GMT -5
Beats hell out of learning Welsh (he said while trying to calculate the pronunciations of names in The Mabinogion).
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 2, 2023 13:54:25 GMT -5
Beats hell out of learning Welsh (he said while trying to calculate the pronunciations of names in The Mabinogion). I read a whole series of books set in Wales a few years ago. I was doing pretty good with the place names by the 15th book. Don't ask me now. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 2, 2023 14:45:57 GMT -5
Waiting in line at the drugstore in Atlanta, I picked up the latest Kathy Reichs book. These books were what the TV series "Bones" was based on. I read a couple of pages and put it back with prejudice. Not a style I can handle.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 3, 2023 10:10:25 GMT -5
I really feel for people trying to learn English. It's quite illogical. Northern Ireland English is a whole 'nother thang! Aye, and Ulster Scotts is even worse. Here's a poem that one of my recently deceased members wrote... Thoughts o Winter (ulster scots )As I shovel snow tay mak a path frea tha dour oot tay tha street an keep tha dourstep free o ice so ah dinna lose may feet. While ah shiver in a caul north wind an hope far heat an light ah kin here some fool singing may all your Christmas,s be white. Then ah go tay try an start mey car but tha Battery is too low it just aboot turns tha Injine but tha revs are far too slow. A put tha battey on tha charge an lev it oer tha night but still some yin is crooning may a your christmas,s be White Ah git up in tha mornin got mey shovel oot yince mere Tha Path ah cleared wos filled agen wey mare ice roon tha dour. A sene if on a Xmas caird wid fill yey wey delight but pleese dinna sing that sang again Mey a your xmas,s be white. A genst mey will ah tuk oot tha car we had messages tay do there wosney many on tha road in fact there wos very few. Wey tha fit path lake an ice rink a the shops wor very bright tha a were playing music (Guess what ) mey a your Christmas's be White |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2023 10:37:00 GMT -5
Northern Ireland English is a whole 'nother thang! Aye, and Ulster Scotts is even worse. Here's a poem that one of my recently deceased members wrote... Thoughts o Winter (ulster scots )As I shovel snow tay mak a path frea tha dour oot tay tha street an keep tha dourstep free o ice so ah dinna lose may feet. While ah shiver in a caul north wind an hope far heat an light ah kin here some fool singing may all your Christmas,s be white. Then ah go tay try an start mey car but tha Battery is too low it just aboot turns tha Injine but tha revs are far too slow. A put tha battey on tha charge an lev it oer tha night but still some yin is crooning may a your christmas,s be White Ah git up in tha mornin got mey shovel oot yince mere Tha Path ah cleared wos filled agen wey mare ice roon tha dour. A sene if on a Xmas caird wid fill yey wey delight but pleese dinna sing that sang again Mey a your xmas,s be white. A genst mey will ah tuk oot tha car we had messages tay do there wosney many on tha road in fact there wos very few. Wey tha fit path lake an ice rink a the shops wor very bright tha a were playing music (Guess what ) mey a your Christmas's be White Wow! I can understand it very well for the most part, but hearing instead of reading it I would be lost. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 3, 2023 10:46:40 GMT -5
Beats hell out of learning Welsh (he said while trying to calculate the pronunciations of names in The Mabinogion). I read the Mabinigion in college. Names drove me crazy so I scribbled into the margins English name abbreviations for each name I couldn't pronounce. Prydri=Joe, Gwyned=Nancy, etc. My idea of humor. I'd probably be hung by the yardarm in Wales. |
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