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Post by urbino on Aug 24, 2024 20:24:11 GMT -5
Pad hadent struck in a while but i won this bent apple errr prince on ebay for just a hair under 22 dollars shipped www.ebay.com/itm/176529437479
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Post by Silver on Aug 24, 2024 23:17:25 GMT -5
Pad hadent struck in a while but i won this bent apple errr prince on ebay for just a hair under 22 dollars shipped www.ebay.com/itm/176529437479 Yeah, bent apple.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2024 11:08:09 GMT -5
Pad hadent struck in a while but i won this bent apple errr prince on ebay for just a hair under 22 dollars shipped www.ebay.com/itm/176529437479Nice pipe! 👍
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Post by relight on Aug 27, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -5
Estervals order. Welp this was returned to sender after languishing in Cincinnati for 10 days. Looks like Estervals ain't in the cards for me. Seems far too much trouble for a dime. I'll smoke American burley and be happy.
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Post by relight on Aug 27, 2024 10:35:44 GMT -5
Estervals order. Welp this was returned to sender after languishing in Cincinnati for 10 days. Looks like Estervals ain't in the cards for me. Seems far too much trouble for a dime. I'll smoke American burley and be happy. Things I've learned today. Estervals ain't worth it and never under any circumstances interact with DHL. What a embarrassing excuse for an "organization".
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Post by username on Aug 27, 2024 10:59:39 GMT -5
After my last order got sent back to estervals and then successfully reshaped to me. I said to myself this wasn't worth the stress. Sucks since estervals has salty dogs plug and Capstan blue for a decent price.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2024 11:10:16 GMT -5
When I was buying Chimo from Venezuela, DHL was far superior to Fedex. The people at Fedex wanted to help me, but hampered by the US customs, and a former customs agent in our pipe club said that the Miami port of Entry is about the most restrictive place a package could end up. DHL Packages went to Ohio, and were delivered quickly to me.
One of our pipe club members had an Esterval order tied up for a while (a year or two ago) but it was eventually delivered.
Having said that, I have no desire to deal with depending on the whims of a custom agent's attitude...but then again, I don't have a desire to buy any more tobacco.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2024 11:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by username on Aug 27, 2024 12:11:15 GMT -5
from what I heard on another forum ups was worse with holding shipments.
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Post by relight on Aug 27, 2024 13:30:22 GMT -5
from what I heard on another forum ups was worse with holding shipments. All I know is "fool me once". This stuff is supposed to be fun. HU blends are likely fabulous. But they ain't worth this. I've learned my lesson.
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Post by urbino on Aug 27, 2024 14:49:58 GMT -5
from what I heard on another forum ups was worse with holding shipments. All I know is "fool me once". This stuff is supposed to be fun. HU blends are likely fabulous. But they ain't worth this. I've learned my lesson. Back during COVID, I had an Esterval’s order hung up in shipping for about 2 months, iirc. Like you, I decided it wasn’t worth it.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 27, 2024 19:18:45 GMT -5
Got this meerschaum yesterday. More of an impulse buy, the price was really right. Something I do find interesting about it is that it may be the most naturally comfortable to hold larger (it’s not huge, about 10” long total) pipe I’ve ever encountered.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2024 20:34:29 GMT -5
Got this meerschaum yesterday. More of an impulse buy, the price was really right. Something I do find interesting about it is that it may be the most naturally comfortable to hold larger (it’s not huge, about 10” long total) pipe I’ve ever encountered. I dunno, TC...he looks pretty pissed! Nice looking pipe!
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Post by urbino on Aug 27, 2024 20:47:51 GMT -5
Got this meerschaum yesterday. More of an impulse buy, the price was really right. Something I do find interesting about it is that it may be the most naturally comfortable to hold larger (it’s not huge, about 10” long total) pipe I’ve ever encountered. That's a doozy. Is all of that stem work decorative, or are there actually multiple pieces to it?
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Post by turbocat on Aug 27, 2024 21:01:28 GMT -5
The stem unscrews into four separate pieces. It is very finely done.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 27, 2024 21:04:12 GMT -5
Got this meerschaum yesterday. More of an impulse buy, the price was really right. Something I do find interesting about it is that it may be the most naturally comfortable to hold larger (it’s not huge, about 10” long total) pipe I’ve ever encountered. I dunno, TC...he looks pretty pissed! Nice looking pipe! That’s funny, one of the first things I thought when I got it was I could do some really minor re-carving and make this a happy looking pipe!
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Post by urbino on Aug 28, 2024 0:14:39 GMT -5
The stem unscrews into four separate pieces. It is very finely done. Cool. Can you assemble subsets of the pieces to get different stem lengths or is it all or nothing?
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Post by relight on Aug 28, 2024 12:12:01 GMT -5
from what I heard on another forum ups was worse with holding shipments. All I know is "fool me once". This stuff is supposed to be fun. HU blends are likely fabulous. But they ain't worth this. I've learned my lesson. Last post about this. But I thought y'all might be interested in the reply I got from DHL.
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Post by relight on Aug 28, 2024 12:55:27 GMT -5
The thing is. You lose some but then you win big. These arrived from turbocat just before we left for our trip. I haven't dipped in yet. But oh boy its going to be fun. Y'all I'm retired, and that Heine's was new when I was in like 3rd grade. 😂 Appreciate ya, Ted.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 28, 2024 13:25:51 GMT -5
The stem unscrews into four separate pieces. It is very finely done. Cool. Can you assemble subsets of the pieces to get different stem lengths or is it all or nothing? The thread sizes are different so it’s an all or nothing situation. Definitely a different way of doing things than how it would be done today.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 28, 2024 13:30:31 GMT -5
All I know is "fool me once". This stuff is supposed to be fun. HU blends are likely fabulous. But they ain't worth this. I've learned my lesson. Last post about this. But I thought y'all might be interested in the reply I got from DHL. That’s crazy! It’s not illegal for an individual to import pipe tobacco. I wonder if DHL has made some new rule. If so, that would be a sad thing.
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Post by Silver on Aug 28, 2024 14:01:57 GMT -5
All I know is "fool me once". This stuff is supposed to be fun. HU blends are likely fabulous. But they ain't worth this. I've learned my lesson. Last post about this. But I thought y'all might be interested in the reply I got from DHL.
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Post by relight on Aug 28, 2024 14:02:01 GMT -5
Last post about this. But I thought y'all might be interested in the reply I got from DHL. That’s crazy! It’s not illegal for an individual to import pipe tobacco. I wonder if DHL has made some new rule. If so, that would be a sad thing. I pointed this out in my reply to them citing applicable customs advisories. I don't expect to hear further.
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Post by relight on Aug 28, 2024 14:05:38 GMT -5
That’s crazy! It’s not illegal for an individual to import pipe tobacco. I wonder if DHL has made some new rule. If so, that would be a sad thing. I pointed this out in my reply to them citing applicable customs advisories. I don't expect to hear further. I spoke too soon. Just got this. This is DHL's rule. I hope they go bankrupt and their houses burn down. 😂
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Post by urbino on Aug 28, 2024 16:47:22 GMT -5
I pointed this out in my reply to them citing applicable customs advisories. I don't expect to hear further. I spoke too soon. Just got this. This is DHL's rule. I hope they go bankrupt and their houses burn down. 😂 Interesting. I have no idea if that's correct. Most foreign online shops that I've visited won't even sell you tobacco products if you have a US address. Pipes, yes; tobacco, no. But it's not like I've visited a huge range of foreign online shops, so maybe it's more common than I think.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 28, 2024 18:24:48 GMT -5
I spoke too soon. Just got this. This is DHL's rule. I hope they go bankrupt and their houses burn down. 😂 Interesting. I have no idea if that's correct. Most foreign online shops that I've visited won't even sell you tobacco products if you have a US address. Pipes, yes; tobacco, no. But it's not like I've visited a huge range of foreign online shops, so maybe it's more common than I think. I’ve been ordering from Estervals for at least ten years. I’ve also ordered tobacco from another shop in Germany in the past. I had a problem with US customs (who insisted I was a commercial buyer and needed to prove I paid taxes on it, not correct of course) on my last order, but it went through when Estervals re-shipped it. Always shipped through DHL.
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Post by urbino on Aug 28, 2024 19:17:29 GMT -5
Interesting. I have no idea if that's correct. Most foreign online shops that I've visited won't even sell you tobacco products if you have a US address. Pipes, yes; tobacco, no. But it's not like I've visited a huge range of foreign online shops, so maybe it's more common than I think. I’ve been ordering from Estervals for at least ten years. I’ve also ordered tobacco from another shop in Germany in the past. I had a problem with US customs (who insisted I was a commercial buyer and needed to prove I paid taxes on it, not correct of course) on my last order, but it went through when Estervals re-shipped it. Always shipped through DHL. That doesn't really indicate what the law is, though. It only indicates what your experience has been with having the law enforced, right? Maybe you've been lucky with lax enforcement and relight and I got strict enforcement on the first try. Or maybe we just got somebody misunderstanding the law or playing god. The only way to know what the applicable law actually says is probably to talk to a lawyer -- there's probably going to be multiple interacting regulations and a layer of administrative common law on top of that.
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Post by relight on Aug 28, 2024 19:43:56 GMT -5
I’ve been ordering from Estervals for at least ten years. I’ve also ordered tobacco from another shop in Germany in the past. I had a problem with US customs (who insisted I was a commercial buyer and needed to prove I paid taxes on it, not correct of course) on my last order, but it went through when Estervals re-shipped it. Always shipped through DHL. That doesn't really indicate what the law is, though. It only indicates what your experience has been with having the law enforced, right? Maybe you've been lucky with lax enforcement and relight and I got strict enforcement on the first try. Or maybe we just got somebody misunderstanding the law or playing god. The only way to know what the applicable law actually says is probably to talk to a lawyer -- there's probably going to be multiple interacting regulations and a layer of administrative common law on top of that. Perhaps we're just jinxed.
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Post by turbocat on Aug 28, 2024 21:46:08 GMT -5
I’ve been ordering from Estervals for at least ten years. I’ve also ordered tobacco from another shop in Germany in the past. I had a problem with US customs (who insisted I was a commercial buyer and needed to prove I paid taxes on it, not correct of course) on my last order, but it went through when Estervals re-shipped it. Always shipped through DHL. That doesn't really indicate what the law is, though. It only indicates what your experience has been with having the law enforced, right? Maybe you've been lucky with lax enforcement and relight and I got strict enforcement on the first try. Or maybe we just got somebody misunderstanding the law or playing god. The only way to know what the applicable law actually says is probably to talk to a lawyer -- there's probably going to be multiple interacting regulations and a layer of administrative common law on top of that. Sure, except the customs regulations are very clear on the topic. Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco cannot be shipped to an individual, Cigars can, but are limited to 20 at a time and pipe tobacco is not regulated when shipped to an individual. It’s spelled out in their regulations online. When I had problems with customs on an Estervals order, the specific customs agent I dealt with is the one who pointed me to these rules. She said she was going on the assumption that my order was for commercial purposes, not to me as an individual, so she was requiring that I either prove it’s for my personal use, which is impossible unless I sat there and smoked it all in front of her, or provide my business tax license. By the way, the customs agent actually told me that I should quit smoking during my conversations with her.
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Post by urbino on Aug 28, 2024 23:45:32 GMT -5
That doesn't really indicate what the law is, though. It only indicates what your experience has been with having the law enforced, right? Maybe you've been lucky with lax enforcement and relight and I got strict enforcement on the first try. Or maybe we just got somebody misunderstanding the law or playing god. The only way to know what the applicable law actually says is probably to talk to a lawyer -- there's probably going to be multiple interacting regulations and a layer of administrative common law on top of that. Sure, except the customs regulations are very clear on the topic. Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco cannot be shipped to an individual, Cigars can, but are limited to 20 at a time and pipe tobacco is not regulated when shipped to an individual. It’s spelled out in their regulations online. When I had problems with customs on an Estervals order, the specific customs agent I dealt with is the one who pointed me to these rules. She said she was going on the assumption that my order was for commercial purposes, not to me as an individual, so she was requiring that I either prove it’s for my personal use, which is impossible unless I sat there and smoked it all in front of her, or provide my business tax license. By the way, the customs agent actually told me that I should quit smoking during my conversations with her. Nice of her to have your back.
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