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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 23, 2024 18:41:56 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you take a lot of prescription drugs, but I take about 14. I check every one for side effects and drug interactions. Several times I have had to point out to the doctor about something they want to prescribe that will interact with something else I'm already taking.
Anyway, this is from the FDA;
“If these estimates are correct, then there are more than 2,216,000 serious ADRs in hospitalized patients, causing over 106,000 deaths annually. If true, then ADRs are the 4th leading cause of death—ahead of pulmonary disease, diabetes, AIDS, pneumonia, accidents, and automobile deaths.”
Note that this is the equivalent of a jumbo jet crashing every day. You have to look out for yourself.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 23, 2024 18:55:30 GMT -5
Indeed you do. Keep doing that, Ron.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 23, 2024 19:11:02 GMT -5
I only take Pepcid (stomach acid) a high blood pressure dosage, and Zyrtec for allergies...I think that the more scripts you take, the more variables that are impossible to gauge with interactions. My plan is to lose some weight and get rid of the BP med.
My wife takes a lot, and she has far more issues than me.
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Post by urbino on Jan 23, 2024 19:18:41 GMT -5
I near croaked in the hospital, once upon a time, but that wasn't a drug interaction thing. It was a drug allergy thing.
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Post by rectifythis on Jan 23, 2024 20:38:40 GMT -5
I try to find as many natural alternatives as I can to stay off any prescriptions.
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Post by Gypo on Jan 23, 2024 21:12:23 GMT -5
I have never asked my doctor if my chewing tobacco would have a bad reaction to my pipe tobacco of course I seldomly go to the doctor. They don't seem to want me to be their patient so I just go to urgent care.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 23, 2024 21:27:39 GMT -5
I have never asked my doctor if my chewing tobacco would have a bad reaction to my pipe tobacco of course I seldomly go to the doctor. They don't seem to want me to be their patient so I just go to urgent care. Probably ought to re-think that approach. I know a lot of guys that are fastidious about changing the oil in the car at 3,000 miles. But they go to urgent care when they are broken down. My primary physician will not see me as a patient unless I do a yearly physical with full labs. Unless I agree, she does not want to see me as a patient. I thought that was harsh… she said “I don’t want train wrecks, I want to avoid them” It was a explained to me by the doctor: the first year we get a baseline where you are at, in ensuing years if we see a variation we can take corrective measures for your vital organs be they brain, heart, kidneys, liver, etc…. Makes sense to me.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 23, 2024 21:34:47 GMT -5
I have to get full labs every quarter.
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Post by urbino on Jan 23, 2024 21:36:59 GMT -5
I have never asked my doctor if my chewing tobacco would have a bad reaction to my pipe tobacco of course I seldomly go to the doctor. They don't seem to want me to be their patient so I just go to urgent care. Probably ought to re-think that approach. I know a lot of guys that are fastidious about changing the oil in the car at 3,000 miles. But they go to urgent care when they are broken down. My primary physician will not see me as a patient unless I do a yearly physical with full labs. Unless I agree, she does not want to see me as a patient. I thought that was harsh… she said “I don’t want train wrecks, I want to avoid them” It was a explained to me by the doctor: the first year we get a baseline where you are at, in ensuing years if we see a variation we can take corrective measures for your vital organs be they brain, heart, kidneys, liver, etc…. Makes sense to me. Same with mine. They even did an ultrasound of my internal organs so any changes over time would be visible. Seeing the same doctor over and over probably doesn't have the same value it once did, because doctors aren't allowed to spend enough time with you to really get to know you. But it does still have value.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 23, 2024 21:49:18 GMT -5
I see a lot of broke down folks, one patient today told me “I never paid attention to my blood pressure, it blew out my kidneys, now I am on dialysis”
She admitted that she never went to the doctors before that.
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Post by Gypo on Jan 23, 2024 22:06:28 GMT -5
I have never asked my doctor if my chewing tobacco would have a bad reaction to my pipe tobacco of course I seldomly go to the doctor. They don't seem to want me to be their patient so I just go to urgent care. Probably ought to re-think that approach. I know a lot of guys that are fastidious about changing the oil in the car at 3,000 miles. But they go to urgent care when they are broken down. My primary physician will not see me as a patient unless I do a yearly physical with full labs. Unless I agree, she does not want to see me as a patient. I thought that was harsh… she said “I don’t want train wrecks, I want to avoid them” It was a explained to me by the doctor: the first year we get a baseline where you are at, in ensuing years if we see a variation we can take corrective measures for your vital organs be they brain, heart, kidneys, liver, etc…. Makes sense to me. The doctor I used to have would not see me about two years ago. Tried to find a new one went to him once. I will not state the reasons but will not go back to see him.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 23, 2024 22:42:16 GMT -5
I have to get full labs every quarter. One of joys of being on medicine.
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Post by instymp on Jan 24, 2024 17:56:16 GMT -5
I have to get full labs every quarter. You are lucky! I am on almost as many scripts as you & my DR. does the 2 times a year Medicare routine. One week before the appt. bloods drawn & then I see her, she goes over the results & says "See you in 6 months" But I am not on anything that can effect liver etc.
Looking for a new one.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 24, 2024 18:17:26 GMT -5
I have to get full labs every quarter. You are lucky! I am on almost as many scripts as you & my DR. does the 2 times a year Medicare routine. One week before the appt. bloods drawn & then I see her, she goes over the results & says "See you in 6 months" But I am not on anything that can effect liver etc.
Looking for a new one.
I have a bad kidney and some of my meds can make it worse.
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Post by coalsmoke on Jan 24, 2024 20:04:32 GMT -5
A real problem is side-effects from medication use over time. I had been taking an approved dosage of Ibuprofen for years for my arthritis. Last year it created internal bleeding in my gastrointestinal tract and I had to switch over to celebrex.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 24, 2024 20:44:44 GMT -5
A real problem is side-effects from medication use over time. I had been taking an approved dosage of Ibuprofen for years for my arthritis. Last year it created internal bleeding in my gastrointestinal tract and I had to switch over to celebrex. Surprised that they had you on it that long. For decades and decades, the doctors have known that prolonged use has a cumulative affect that builds up and destroys. I worked with a guy in the 80’s that had a destroyed liver from Ibuprofen.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 24, 2024 22:44:05 GMT -5
A real problem is side-effects from medication use over time. I had been taking an approved dosage of Ibuprofen for years for my arthritis. Last year it created internal bleeding in my gastrointestinal tract and I had to switch over to celebrex. They had me on statins which caused me so much pain that I took the maximum dose of na Ibuprofen for years, so I take partial blame for my kidneys getting screwed up, but the pain from the statins was very bad and I had to go to work everyday. The doctors never tell you that taking statins won't add a single day to your life.
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Post by Darin on Jan 25, 2024 6:36:44 GMT -5
Doctors are about half as smart as most people think and often in bed with the drug companies.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 25, 2024 11:10:06 GMT -5
I had to switch statins brand years ago because of pain issues never liked Ibuprofen it does not work for me. Started out on Bextra many moons ago and thought it was a gift from heaven after they banned it have been on Celebrex for over twenty years along with Flexeril. Duloxetine along with plain ol Bayer aspirin works well for pain. Any time I think something is not working I tell my doctor and we try something new. Used to take metformin and I lay on the bed in the fetal position with crocodile tears by the end of the day. Solved that issue with Novolog and Levemir insulin the best thing I ever did for my diabetes. Over the years have lost count of many high blood pressure and colesterol medicines that have been recalled.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 25, 2024 20:11:10 GMT -5
Doctors are about half as smart as most people think and often in bed with the drug companies. Truer words never spoken. And when you get to where you are taking a dozen medications, I don’t think anyone can calculate the interactions. I know I sound like a broken record, but that Jardiance commercial irks me… the fat chick that is morbidly obese, is dancing to the pharmaceutical choreography, as she continues to gorge on greasy food and take her pills. Just lose the weight and most of your problems are solved! Or in the words of the great philosopher Sam Kinison… “Sally, give the starving Ethiopian kid a sandwich, you can skip a meal.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 25, 2024 20:18:38 GMT -5
After I made the last post, I checked my work email and the company healthcare affiliate is offering a “smart scale” totally free! And every-time I step on it my readings are sent to them…. No thanks.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 25, 2024 20:36:12 GMT -5
So Charlie is it the yellow shower curtain dress or the blue top with jeans that is the most disgusting. For me it is the stereotyping that you have to be obese to have diabetes no thank you Novo Nordisk.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 25, 2024 20:49:34 GMT -5
So Charlie is it the yellow shower curtain dress or the blue top with jeans that is the most disgusting. For me it is the stereotyping that you have to be obese to have diabetes no thank you Novo Nordisk. I agree. Anyone can be diabetic/ pre- diabetic, but there is a large swath of the population has it within their control to-get the weight down and get off the meds.
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Jan 26, 2024 6:51:39 GMT -5
I have to get full labs every quarter. Oooh! Zarnicky like man who has full abs!
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Post by don on Jan 27, 2024 15:11:09 GMT -5
A real problem is side-effects from medication use over time. I had been taking an approved dosage of Ibuprofen for years for my arthritis. Last year it created internal bleeding in my gastrointestinal tract and I had to switch over to celebrex. They had me on statins which caused me so much pain that I took the maximum dose of na Ibuprofen for years, so I take partial blame for my kidneys getting screwed up, but the pain from the statins was very bad and I had to go to work everyday. The doctors never tell you that taking statins won't add a single day to your life. I have a lot of nerve and muscle pain and discomfort now from the statins. Investigating options for the future.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 27, 2024 20:26:47 GMT -5
Don if you are past the 90 day adjustment period I would get with your practitioner and talk about switching brands maybe try a Q10 vitamin. Best thoughts for a better solution that works better for you.
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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2024 20:29:53 GMT -5
They had me on statins which caused me so much pain that I took the maximum dose of na Ibuprofen for years, so I take partial blame for my kidneys getting screwed up, but the pain from the statins was very bad and I had to go to work everyday. The doctors never tell you that taking statins won't add a single day to your life. I have a lot of nerve and muscle pain and discomfort now from the statins. Investigating options for the future. Hope you find some kind of solution soon, Don.
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Post by don on Jan 27, 2024 21:05:52 GMT -5
Don if you are past the 90 day adjustment period I would get with your practitioner and talk about switching brands maybe try a Q10 vitamin. Best thoughts for a better solution that works better for you. I take COQ10. It helps. I will go the natural route, rather than be on a statin as soon as I can, but that takes a little time. I will probably be able to get off the blood thinner in a few months. I’ve lived with GERD for so long, I learned a lot about the American diet and the effects of all the food additives, refined carbs and garbage that is in our food. I absolutely know what to eat and what not to. That doesn’t mean I always make the right choice. Temptations. If I had enough land, I would grow and raise as much of my food as possible.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 27, 2024 21:15:45 GMT -5
Man… I hate to hear about the three amigos dealing with this nonsense…. toshtego, don, Ronv69I hope you can kick the flanks and loosen them reins.
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Post by CrustyCat on Feb 13, 2024 1:28:04 GMT -5
I had a bad reaction to ropinerol for restless leg syndrome. Made me itch something fierce from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. Switched to mirapex and is better, but not perfect. Take atarax to manage the little bit of itching I have now one to two times a week. Also helps me sleep. Take omeprazol a few times a week to manage Gerd, which is due to a significant hyatal hernia. Had to switch from lisinopril to norvasc because it was causing a cough.
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