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Post by toshtego on Mar 8, 2024 19:23:29 GMT -5
My old Ford F-250 Superduty 7.3 PSD, bought new by me in 1999 has a problem. It seems that back in the year 2000, I asked a local mechanic of notable repute to change the front hubs from the Ford vacuum system to manual as in Warn Locking Hubs. It now appears the job was not done quite right. The vacuum system and the Warn Hubs did not work properly together and the front axels were not properly engaged in 4 WD over the years. The result was not much power getting to the front wheels which explains why I had so much trouble in the snow getting stuck. Worse, the improper meshing of gears resulted in wear of the hubs and wheel bearings. So, I have to take it to the Ford Dealer shop in Alamosa CO to rebuild the the front 4WD. It has to go to Ford as the vacuum system is proprietary and parts are not available to independent mechanics. This will be a costly repair but needs to be done. The damage to date means that even in 2WD, damage is furthered. Double Drat!!
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Post by urbino on Mar 8, 2024 19:27:18 GMT -5
Well, shite. That does sound expensive. Is it gonna be alright to get you to and from the docs in the meantime?
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Post by trailboss on Mar 8, 2024 19:28:49 GMT -5
Good thing that you are a wealthy rancher!
No that sucks!
It really sucks when you gave due diligence, and sent work to a "reputable" mechanic, only to find out years later it was not done right...still sucks.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 8, 2024 20:34:53 GMT -5
Well, shite. That does sound expensive. Is it gonna be alright to get you to and from the docs in the meantime? Sadly not. Should not be driven until repaired. |
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Post by urbino on Mar 8, 2024 20:56:20 GMT -5
Well, shite. That does sound expensive. Is it gonna be alright to get you to and from the docs in the meantime? Sadly not. Should not be driven until repaired. Cripes. How long will it take? You got other arrangements? |
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Post by Plainsman on Mar 8, 2024 21:06:39 GMT -5
One of those “notices” we all hope never to get. Feelin’ fer ya. I hope it comes in lower than expected.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 8, 2024 22:20:30 GMT -5
Sadly not. Should not be driven until repaired. Cripes. How long will it take? You got other arrangements? Hard to say. My appointment with the Ford Dealer Service Dept is for next Thursday. Once they have the parts, it should take all that long. I might be able drive my old Landcruiser into Taos for the MD appointments the following week. No windshield wipers owing to the failure of a cheap plastic part no longer available. I might be able to work a McGiver Fix on it. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 8, 2024 22:30:16 GMT -5
Cripes. How long will it take? You got other arrangements? Hard to say. My appointment with the Ford Dealer Service Dept is for next Thursday. Once they have the parts, it should take all that long. I might be able drive my old Landcruiser into Taos for the MD appointments the following week. No windshield wipers owing to the failure of a cheap plastic part no longer available. I might be able to work a McGiver Fix on it. Try www.car-part.com/mobile/index.htm it is a clearinghouse for auto recyclers… kind of like what abebooks is to readers. I have not used them, but have referred others and the results have been great. |
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Post by urbino on Mar 8, 2024 23:05:34 GMT -5
Cripes. How long will it take? You got other arrangements? Hard to say. My appointment with the Ford Dealer Service Dept is for next Thursday. Once they have the parts, it should take all that long. I might be able drive my old Landcruiser into Taos for the MD appointments the following week. No windshield wipers owing to the failure of a cheap plastic part no longer available. I might be able to work a McGiver Fix on it. Don't do anything crazy, man. Rock and a hard place, I guess, though. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 0:41:04 GMT -5
My old Ford F-250 Superduty 7.3 PSD, bought new by me in 1999 has a problem. It seems that back in the year 2000, I asked a local mechanic of notable repute to change the front hubs from the Ford vacuum system to manual as in Warn Locking Hubs. It now appears the job was not done quite right. The vacuum system and the Warn Hubs did not work properly together and the front axels were not properly engaged in 4 WD over the years. The result was not much power getting to the front wheels which explains why I had so much trouble in the snow getting stuck. Worse, the improper meshing of gears resulted in wear of the hubs and wheel bearings. So, I have to take it to the Ford Dealer shop in Alamosa CO to rebuild the the front 4WD. It has to go to Ford as the vacuum system is proprietary and parts are not available to independent mechanics. This will be a costly repair but needs to be done. The damage to date means that even in 2WD, damage is furthered. Double Drat!! Don't you just love the improvements on the newer vehicles? On my 86,i had to get out and turn the hub manually. I kept a pair of water pump pliers with plastic over the teeth to make it easy. Who thought it was a good idea to add vacuum to the hubs on a 4WD pickup? |
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Post by lizardonarock on Mar 9, 2024 3:07:33 GMT -5
Those would be the people who got tired of getting out to lock in the hubs.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 9, 2024 10:21:44 GMT -5
My old Ford F-250 Superduty 7.3 PSD, bought new by me in 1999 has a problem. It seems that back in the year 2000, I asked a local mechanic of notable repute to change the front hubs from the Ford vacuum system to manual as in Warn Locking Hubs. It now appears the job was not done quite right. The vacuum system and the Warn Hubs did not work properly together and the front axels were not properly engaged in 4 WD over the years. The result was not much power getting to the front wheels which explains why I had so much trouble in the snow getting stuck. Worse, the improper meshing of gears resulted in wear of the hubs and wheel bearings. So, I have to take it to the Ford Dealer shop in Alamosa CO to rebuild the the front 4WD. It has to go to Ford as the vacuum system is proprietary and parts are not available to independent mechanics. This will be a costly repair but needs to be done. The damage to date means that even in 2WD, damage is furthered. Double Drat!! Don't you just love the improvements on the newer vehicles? On my 86,i had to get out and turn the hub manually. I kept a pair of water pump pliers with plastic over the teeth to make it easy. Who thought it was a good idea to add vacuum to the hubs on a 4WD pickup? That was my thought and intended to go back to a strictly manual system for the front hubs. Not so concerned about vacuum operated Transfer Case. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 12:00:15 GMT -5
Don't you just love the improvements on the newer vehicles? On my 86,i had to get out and turn the hub manually. I kept a pair of water pump pliers with plastic over the teeth to make it easy. Who thought it was a good idea to add vacuum to the hubs on a 4WD pickup? That was my thought and intended to go back to a strictly manual system for the front hubs. Not so concerned about vacuum operated Transfer Case. Vacuum stuff on a vehicle really SUCK! 😁 (see what I did?) The first cars I worked on had electric windshield wipers. When I first worked on one with vacuum wipers, I thought what genius thought this was a good idea. Haven't repaired a windshield wiper motor since, so I don't know what they are using. Just happy they work. |
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Post by john on Mar 9, 2024 15:01:07 GMT -5
John I can feel your pain. I have a VW Jetta that has a signal light out. I replaced the bulb a couple of times, but, it needs a new light assy in order to correct the problem. To replace the assy I first have to remove part of the grill, loosen the LT fender from the body and remove the bumper. Like what RonV said, who thought this was a good idea? What should be a normal $25-50 repair will be well in excess of $300 for a darn signal light.... Guess who won't be signaling a LT turn any time soon...  |
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Post by john on Mar 9, 2024 15:07:58 GMT -5
That was my thought and intended to go back to a strictly manual system for the front hubs. Not so concerned about vacuum operated Transfer Case. Vacuum stuff on a vehicle really SUCK! 😁 (see what I did?) The first cars I worked on had electric windshield wipers. When I first worked on one with vacuum wipers, I thought what genius thought this was a good idea. Haven't repaired a windshield wiper motor since, so I don't know what they are using. Just happy they work. Ron, I had 4 early Broncos, '69-70's and they all had vacuum wipers. One good thing was that they were independent and I could just put on the drivers side if I wanted to.  . When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still  . |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 17:26:10 GMT -5
Vacuum stuff on a vehicle really SUCK! 😁 (see what I did?) The first cars I worked on had electric windshield wipers. When I first worked on one with vacuum wipers, I thought what genius thought this was a good idea. Haven't repaired a windshield wiper motor since, so I don't know what they are using. Just happy they work. Ron, I had 4 early Broncos, '69-70's and they all had vacuum wipers. One good thing was that they were independent and I could just put on the drivers side if I wanted to. . When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still . Did you possibly have added a Holley Double-pumper? 😁 |
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Post by urbino on Mar 9, 2024 17:31:17 GMT -5
Ron, I had 4 early Broncos, '69-70's and they all had vacuum wipers. One good thing was that they were independent and I could just put on the drivers side if I wanted to. . When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still . Did you possibly have added a Holley Double-pumper? 😁 Whoa, whoa. His sex life is not relevant here. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 17:45:34 GMT -5
I Googled the current vacuum situation and I discovered that it's mostly just the heater flap and power brakes now. I did discover a horror called a vacuum fuel pump. No longer used I think.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 9, 2024 18:22:57 GMT -5
Vacuum stuff on a vehicle really SUCK! 😁 (see what I did?) The first cars I worked on had electric windshield wipers. When I first worked on one with vacuum wipers, I thought what genius thought this was a good idea. Haven't repaired a windshield wiper motor since, so I don't know what they are using. Just happy they work. Ron, I had 4 early Broncos, '69-70's and they all had vacuum wipers. One good thing was that they were independent and I could just put on the drivers side if I wanted to. . When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still . We had those on our 1964 IH Scout. They worked well enough for a slow car. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 18:35:53 GMT -5
Ron, I had 4 early Broncos, '69-70's and they all had vacuum wipers. One good thing was that they were independent and I could just put on the drivers side if I wanted to. . When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still . We had those on our 1964 IH Scout. They worked well enough for a slow car. The only Scout I ever drove had a 345 V8, with a 4bbl carb and headers. The first time I pressed on the gas, it left the ground. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 18:37:34 GMT -5
Did you possibly have added a Holley Double-pumper? 😁 Whoa, whoa. His sex life is not relevant here. No sex,again. It was a carburetor that, when you stepped on it, all the vacuum went away. Took a big, hungry engine not to bog. |
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Post by urbino on Mar 9, 2024 19:01:00 GMT -5
Whoa, whoa. His sex life is not relevant here. No sex,again. It was a carburetor that, when you stepped on it, all the vacuum went away. Took a big, hungry engine not to bog.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 19:19:22 GMT -5
No sex,again. It was a carburetor that, when you stepped on it, all the vacuum went away. Took a big, hungry engine not to bog. (I know, me too.) |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 9, 2024 19:59:28 GMT -5
My dad had an old Caddy with the big fins… it had power windows, kinda cool felt like Batfink’s car.
The bad part, the power windows were vacuum operated, and they never worked.
We rode around in a terrarium in the sweaty days of summer, as we had no A/C either.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 9, 2024 21:13:58 GMT -5
My dad had an old Caddy with the big fins… it had power windows, kinda cool felt like Batfink’s car. The bad part, the power windows were vacuum operated, and they never worked. We rode around in a terrarium in the sweaty days of summer, as we had no A/C either. Running rubber hoses through a vehicle is asking for trouble. They were doing great with electric motors, until they started coating the wires with squirrel food. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Mar 9, 2024 21:47:18 GMT -5
Trico made a rebuild kits for the vacuum wiper motors and yes there is more than one model. As for the hubs even with the warn hubs there are still a bunch of Ford only parts located in the hub thrust washes and what  not. |
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Post by toshtego on Mar 10, 2024 4:30:15 GMT -5
We had those on our 1964 IH Scout. They worked well enough for a slow car. The only Scout I ever drove had a 345 V8, with a 4bbl carb and headers. The first time I pressed on the gas, it left the ground. In '64 the Scout was equipped with a 4 cylinder, overhead valve engine mated to a three speed transmission. The locking hubs in front were very finicky often requiring driving in reverse to lock. Good little truck. We hauled a horse trailer on the highways with it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 10, 2024 9:22:29 GMT -5
The only Scout I ever drove had a 345 V8, with a 4bbl carb and headers. The first time I pressed on the gas, it left the ground. In '64 the Scout was equipped with a 4 cylinder, overhead valve engine mated to a three speed transmission. The locking hubs in front were very finicky often requiring driving in reverse to lock. Good little truck. We hauled a horse trailer on the highways with it. People underestimate little 4 cylinder engines with low gears. My 96 horsepower Isuzu Trooper hauled my 18' Searay 90 miles one way to the lake every weekend at 90mph. The V8 was overkill in the Scout. |
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Post by Plainsman on Mar 10, 2024 9:40:12 GMT -5
You pulled a trailer at 90MPH?
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Post by lizardonarock on Mar 10, 2024 10:58:27 GMT -5
The man is a absolute animal he forgot to mention it was on bald tires.
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. When you stomped on the gas they came to a stand still 
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