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Post by toshtego on Sept 26, 2018 4:40:29 GMT -5
I would disagree. I think this is art. Pain can be art. Uncomfort can be art. The human body, placed in poses and positions, etc, all can be art. Chris didn't need help. that was back when the art community was more liberated- everything has to be so sanctioned and approved of thesedays in universities and galleries - that's the phonies, in my opinion. It takes variety to make a horse race. I didn't say that it wasn't art. I just didn't think that it was great art or really good art. Performance art could be revelatory, as in how much BS people could be induced to put up with in order to seem deep and cool. Occasionally a performance piece actually did induce an altered state of consciousness, besides dozing, and occasionally some kind of satori experience. I will give this to Burden, he was willing to impale or shoot himself rather than faking it. He wasn't a phony, he was committed, and maybe he should have been committed. I did some reading on him and he did move on to really interesting stuff. The '70's art community more liberated? Not from what I experienced. More like warfare with artists pointlessly insisting that their "thing" was the only "thing". As for institutional approval, that's up to the artist whether he/she/them is going to apply for grant money or find their own way. I've made a nearly 50 years long career as an artist, and worked for and earned every penny by virtue of having chops, using them, and expanding them. I chose a different path, going into commercial art, though I could have done the fine art path. I had serious offers if I wanted to decamp to NYC. It just wasn't for me. Fine art felt like, then as now, a celebration of commercialized BS with a few islands of honesty scattered about. Instead I followed a different passion by getting involved in films and TV. It's BS as well, but a painter actually has to be able to paint. Your comments got me thinking about the matte paintings used in movies before CGI and such. Some of them were truly wonderful and believable. "Forbidden Planet" comes to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 6:15:36 GMT -5
On Amazon Prime video during the early morning hours I watched the newer release ( 2016 ) of The Magnificent Seven......6/10
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Post by jeffd on Sept 26, 2018 10:33:55 GMT -5
On Amazon Prime video during the early morning hours I watched the newer release ( 2016 ) of The Magnificent Seven......6/10 I saw it. I really liked it actually. But not as much as I would have if i were a kid. The original Magnificent Seven really affected me. I was young and my mental clay wasn't dry. And that theme. Iconic. And then the theme was taken up by Marlboro cigarettes. "This is Marlboro Country. Come to where the flavor is. Come to Marlboro Country." And it so happened that near where I grew up Marlboro was the name of the "giggle house" (as we called it). Marlboro Psychiatric Hospital. When we kids wanted to indicate someone was nuts, instead of doing that circular around your ear gesture, we would just start singing the Marlboro cigarette theme and point our thumb.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 26, 2018 10:40:13 GMT -5
On Amazon Prime video during the early morning hours I watched the newer release ( 2016 ) of The Magnificent Seven......6/10 I saw it. I really liked it actually. But not as much as I would have if i were a kid. The original Magnificent Seven really affected me. I was young and my mental clay wasn't dry. And that theme. Iconic. And then the theme was taken up by Marlboro cigarettes. "This is Marlboro Country. Come to where the flavor is. Come to Marlboro Country." And it so happened that near where I grew up Marlboro was the name of the "giggle house" (as we called it). Marlboro Psychiatric Hospital. When we kids wanted to indicate someone was nuts, instead of doing that circular around your ear gesture, we would just start singing the Marlboro cigarette theme and point our thumb. An entire generation of kids was affected by that movie. Elmer Bernstein has a real winner with that theme.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 11:50:09 GMT -5
The original Magnificent Seven I enjoyed....Iβm a bit older then you. The cast in the original were all far superior actors then the oneβs in the 2016 release......9/10
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Post by jeffd on Sept 26, 2018 12:55:27 GMT -5
The original Magnificent Seven I enjoyed....Iβm a bit older then you. The cast in the original were all far superior actors then the oneβs in the 2016 release......9/10 Ohhh yea. Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Eli Wallach (one of my favorites), James Coburn, Robert Vaughn (the man from UNCLE) I even saw Victor French in a minor role when I re-watched it before seeing the new one. For some reason I had remembered that Burt Lancaster was in it, but he wasn't. (You may be older than me, but though I was born at night, it wasn't last night. )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 13:00:32 GMT -5
The original Magnificent Seven I enjoyed....Iβm a bit older then you. The cast in the original were all far superior actors then the oneβs in the 2016 release......9/10 Ohhh yea. Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Eli Wallach (one of my favorites), James Coburn, Robert Vaughn (the man from UNCLE) I even saw Victor French in a minor role when I re-watched it before seeing the new one. For some reason I had remembered that Burt Lancaster was in it, but he wasn't. (You may be older than me, but though I was born at night, it wasn't last night. ) Victor French ( hard hat, good actor ) played Burt Lancaster......lol
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Post by toshtego on Sept 26, 2018 16:34:01 GMT -5
The original Magnificent Seven I enjoyed....Iβm a bit older then you. The cast in the original were all far superior actors then the oneβs in the 2016 release......9/10 Ohhh yea. Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Eli Wallach (one of my favorites), James Coburn, Robert Vaughn (the man from UNCLE) I even saw Victor French in a minor role when I re-watched it before seeing the new one. For some reason I had remembered that Burt Lancaster was in it, but he wasn't.(You may be older than me, but though I was born at night, it wasn't last night. ) You might be thinking of "The Professionals" from a few years later. Another tale of American mercenaries working in Mexico. That one included Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Woody Strode, Robert Ryan, Jack Palance, Ralph Bellamy, and the incredible Claudia Cardinale. This movie is the source of the memorable line, "So, what's on your mind other than 90 proof whiskey, 100 proof women and 14-carat gold?" A line I still use to this day.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 26, 2018 16:35:26 GMT -5
The original Magnificent Seven I enjoyed....Iβm a bit older then you. The cast in the original were all far superior actors then the oneβs in the 2016 release......9/10 Ohhh yea. Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Eli Wallach (one of my favorites), James Coburn, Robert Vaughn (the man from UNCLE) I even saw Victor French in a minor role when I re-watched it before seeing the new one. For some reason I had remembered that Burt Lancaster was in it, but he wasn't. (You may be older than me, but though I was born at night, it wasn't last night. ) AND, Horst Bucholtz. Can't forget him!!!
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Post by jeffd on Sept 26, 2018 17:12:41 GMT -5
You might be thinking of "The Professionals" from a few years later. Another tale of American mercenaries working in Mexico. That one included Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Woody Strode, Robert Ryan, Jack Palance, Ralph Bellamy, and the incredible Claudia Cardinale. Or maybe "The Wild Bunch"?
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Post by toshtego on Sept 26, 2018 18:03:21 GMT -5
You might be thinking of "The Professionals" from a few years later. Another tale of American mercenaries working in Mexico. That one included Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Woody Strode, Robert Ryan, Jack Palance, Ralph Bellamy, and the incredible Claudia Cardinale. Or maybe "The Wild Bunch"? Burt was not in "The Wild Bunch". That was William Holden. Ryan was in both.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 30, 2018 3:06:08 GMT -5
I watched Dr. Strange last night. Another 'different' marvel movie, and it was a welcomed change from the other more typical superheroes. I liked it, although there was just enough time to introduce the character and his background etc. and then there was the climax.
Still, I'd give it 72%.
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Post by zambini on Oct 1, 2018 0:10:07 GMT -5
The Nun. It was scary enough for me but not enough for my date...so, yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 3:32:02 GMT -5
Just after midnight I watched the original movie once again.......Death Wish made in 1974. Even better the second time 8.5/10
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Post by Slow Triathlete on Oct 1, 2018 9:53:36 GMT -5
Peppermint with Jennifer Garner
Save your money
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 1, 2018 10:06:37 GMT -5
After reading posts on car chases, French Connection was touted, watched it last night and really enjoyed it, Gene Hackman was great.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 1, 2018 10:06:58 GMT -5
The Nun. It was scary enough for me but not enough for my date...so, yeah. So you are saying that it didn't make her crawl in your lap? Maybe she's more afraid of you. ππ€
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 1, 2018 10:07:53 GMT -5
Peppermint with Jennifer Garner Save your money Thanks, love her but I had already made the decision to skip it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 1, 2018 10:09:11 GMT -5
We watched Relic again on Sunday. It had been long enough that we were on the edge of our seats. 7/10
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Post by zambini on Oct 1, 2018 10:21:02 GMT -5
The Nun. It was scary enough for me but not enough for my date...so, yeah. So you are saying that it didn't make her crawl in your lap? Maybe she's more afraid of you. ππ€ I was thinking more of hand in arm but same same.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 1, 2018 10:42:20 GMT -5
So you are saying that it didn't make her crawl in your lap? Maybe she's more afraid of you. ππ€ I was thinking more of hand in arm but same same. I guess you will just have to try charm. Good luck!
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Post by toshtego on Oct 1, 2018 11:25:27 GMT -5
Just after midnight I watched the original movie once again.......Death Wish made in 1974. Even better the second time 8.5/10 Holds up well. Never thought a Colt Police Postive in .32-20 could be so deadly. LOL!
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 1, 2018 22:37:10 GMT -5
Just after midnight I watched the original movie once again.......Death Wish made in 1974. Even better the second time 8.5/10 Holds up well. Never thought a Colt Police Postive in .32-20 could be so deadly. LOL! They worked on normal, rational criminals. They may not work on drug crazed maniacs. The criminals in Death Wish were relative light weights. Plenty of people are killed with the 22lr. Now you take someone like The Rock, and give him a good dose of crystal meth, pcp, and cocaine. And you might want something with a more instantaneous effect.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 3, 2018 4:35:39 GMT -5
"Tune of Glory", 1960. One of Alec Guinness' best. With John Mills, Duncan Macrae, Gordon Jackson and the extraordinary Susannah York. A new CO takes over a Highland Battalion in post WW2 Scotland. Personalities conflict. Well drawn characters and great performances. 9/10.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 3, 2018 21:37:04 GMT -5
Ooops. It is "Tunes" "Tunes of Glory". Sorry.
Has to do with the Piping. The Piping, Man!
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 3, 2018 22:22:16 GMT -5
Tosh , thank you, started streaming it tonight, will finish it tommorow night, wife came in from bingo, put her soap opera on, she shopped today and didn't get to see it. I like Alec I'm anything, again thank job.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 3, 2018 23:07:14 GMT -5
Tosh , thank you, started streaming it tonight, will finish it tommorow night, wife came in from bingo, put her soap opera on, she shopped today and didn't get to see it. I like Alec I'm anything, again thank job. I think it is one of his finest.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 18, 2018 16:38:59 GMT -5
"First Man". The Neal Armstrong biopic.
A must see for those of us who lived through the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo era.
I forgot Neal manually landed the Eagle onto the Moon during the last 15 seconds of the decent.
I had a real sense of how terrifying it must have been going into space during that transitor packed era with annalog instruments and less computing power than today's Smart Phone.
9/10.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 19, 2018 5:41:20 GMT -5
"First Man". The Neal Armstrong biopic. A must see for those of us who lived through the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo era. I forgot Neal manually landed the Eagle onto the Moon during the last 15 seconds of the decent.
I had a real sense of how terrifying it must have been going into space during that transitor packed era with annalog instruments and less computing power than today's Smart Phone.
9/10.
Postscript: Some have complained the movie is long and boring interrupted with shaky hand-held camera work. Not for me. There is much time devoted to Armstrong's family life and the personal tragedy which affected him. His wife, played by the English actor Clare Foy who usually portrays Queens, was a solid part of his high-risk life as a test pilot and aviation engineer. The movie opens in 1961 with Neal flying an X-15 on to the edge of space. A wild ride with a big problem. He keeps bouncing off the atmosphere trying to re-enter. All you pilots might find that interesting. My only complaint was the loud music during the Moon landing. Could not hear the dialogue as the crew and Houston struggle to get The Eagle onto the surface. The music was not needed. Fortunately, once on the surface, it gets real quite as it should be. The Moon scene is right out of "Men Into Space" and works well here. Go see it and report back. Houston is waiting for a reply. LOL!
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 19, 2018 14:48:55 GMT -5
"First Man". The Neal Armstrong biopic. A must see for those of us who lived through the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo era. I forgot Neal manually landed the Eagle onto the Moon during the last 15 seconds of the decent.
I had a real sense of how terrifying it must have been going into space during that transitor packed era with annalog instruments and less computing power than today's Smart Phone.
9/10.
Postscript: Some have complained the movie is long and boring interrupted with shaky hand-held camera work. Not for me. There is much time devoted to Armstrong's family life and the personal tragedy which affected him. His wife, played by the English actor Clare Foy who usually portrays Queens, was a solid part of his high-risk life as a test pilot and aviation engineer. The movie opens in 1961 with Neal flying an X-15 on to the edge of space. A wild ride with a big problem. He keeps bouncing off the atmosphere trying to re-enter. All you pilots might find that interesting. My only complaint was the loud music during the Moon landing. Could not hear the dialogue as the crew and Houston struggle to get The Eagle onto the surface. The music was not needed. Fortunately, once on the surface, it gets real quite as it should be. The Moon scene is right out of "Men Into Space" and works well here. Go see it and report back. Houston is waiting for a reply. LOL! I saw the original back in 69. Another movie that didn't need to be remade. ππ€ And I am in Houston and the only thing that we are waiting for is Spring Training.
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