Universal studio’s goes stupid on secondhand smoke.

The UN report on secondhand smoke, for those unfamiliar with it.


www.davehitt.com/facts/who.html

It seems they have to put warning labels on everything nowadays in fear of being sued by someone.

In today's world the thing that worries me most is the secondhand stupidity. That seems to be affecting far more people than secondhand smoke.

Precisely.

Yup .... people have been fed the same story over & over without ever seeing any facts to prove it.

My comment using the term "secondhand stupidity" was not just referring to smoking. I was lumping all the societal idiocies that tend to affect other people.
It seems in parts of society that common sense is not that common anymore, but stupidity seems to be contagious.

That is truly idiotic. As for secondhand smoke, I can't stand being downwind of a cigarette smoker, and it does make me cough, so I try not to expose nonsmokers to my pipe or cigar smoke. I'm not concerned they're going to get lung cancer, but I like to practice the common human courtesy that I would like to have reciprocated. Do unto others etc.

So where did you get your degree in climatology?  About ten years ago I was having lunch with my uncle, who was the Chairman of the Department of Geology at CalTech, and who had, by the way, trained the Astornauts who handled the geological specimen collection on the moon, and who is a father of the branch of Science known at Exogeology, my brother, a theoretical physicist who at that time was a senior project leader at Los Alamos, and a friend of theirs, who was the Chair of the American Academy of Sciences, and the discussion concerned findings and ongoing research by Academy members as well as other researchers worldwide, related to climate change, which they accepted as evident.  Now granted, with only 250 Nobel Laureates in its membership, the American Academy of Sciences is obviously just a bunch of doofuses.  Perhaps you should take your vast knowledge and experience and set them straight.

Ya know brush & lax,

Although not surprised, I am disappointed that you two see fit to adopt the same tactics being used on the evening news and across the nations campus'....

The personal slams here are unbecoming. But, hey, why be civil when you can try to Shout someone down when they have opinions or viewpoints that might cause someone cognitive dissonance or conflict with one's personal world view?


To answer your question Jesse, University of Maryland, Electrical Engineering Technologies.


In this life I choose to be a critical thinker and ask questions boldly. Not one to fall for the "Emperors New Clothes"

I have sought to try and get my head around how it the world a trace gas, one that represents only 0.04% (Note, not 4% or even 0.4%, but 4/100ths of 1 percent.) In many circles you're talking about a rounding error.

The net effect of the Paris Climate Agreement would have been the loss of Millions of jobs and Trillions of $$ all in an effort to reduce SAT by 1.5 degrees C by the year 2100!?!?!?

And that's if it will have any effect at all. There's compelling evidence that rise in atmospheric co2 levels are actually processional to the earths warming and not precessional. In other words, as the sun irradiance increase and the earths temperatures rise, co2 trapped in the permafrost and other areas, is released.

In the end, despite MSM, Hollywood, UN IPCC and Al Gores sensational claims, none of the cataclysmic claims have come true about polar bear extinction (actually on the rise in population), the ice caps are not gone, Florida isn't under water etc...

Let's not forget about Mann's Hockey stick and the ensuing Climategate. Seems he was fudging his numbers to suit his narrative.


In closing, not wanting to hijack this thread entirely, I would invite any sane / civil / mature discussion on these matters, either via PM or on a separate thread.

By the way gents, none of the above commentary was political in nature nor was it religious. Just pragmatic observation and logical analytical questions.

I had just read recently that the effects of second hand smoke are nominal at most and the whole idea that it was worse than smoking was just propaganda or speculation by anti-smoking d-bags that just spread until it was assumed fact.

Back to the theme of this thread's original intent...

www.cato.org/publications/commentary/secondhand-smoke-charade

Seems the EPA has been over reaching at least since 1998.

Maybe even since the 60's?

www.thedailybeast.com/how-rachel-carson-cost-millions-of-people-their-lives

www.cato.org/publications/commentary/secondhand-smoke-charade


Sad that even though that judge had ruled in 1995 that The FDA had been a runaway regulatory train employing junk science, the Congressional knuckledraggers and president decided to increase the regulatory control of the FDA.


Had the judge's opinion been the opposite, it would be declared settled law since it came from a federal judge.

Definitely the problem with the over use of "Case Law".

Like it or not, in this surreal "fake news" paranoid world, the climate change issue has become entirely political. Raising it - just like last time, Dino, and as with Ayn Rand - is provocative and totally unnecessary. You know it's going to ruffle feathers on a divisive political level. After all, how many climate change deniers are progressives, and how many environmental protectionists are conservatives?

Same with the remarks about Oprah, coming on the heels of news that she might run in 2020. Sure she's an unqualified candidate, but that seems to be what America wants nowadays. So the "joke" is that she's unqualified and a liberal? Just saying, the claim of being apolitical on this thread seems totally disingenuous.

As for the harmful effects of fossil fuels, isn't that why some people commit suicide by locking themselves in a garage with the car running? Spend a few months in Delhi or Beijing and see your lungs feel.

I guess that's why it's gradually improving.