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Post by Lady Margaret on Dec 4, 2019 20:46:34 GMT -5
I was born in 69. So Im not the only youngun here! I was born in December of 68!
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Post by toshtego on Dec 4, 2019 21:26:45 GMT -5
Good Charle, like I told my Sons and Wife they’re ain’t no poor people in the USA anymore, don’t see no more old cars on farm road while smoking, wife says bingo players who buy groceries with EBT Card have more than enough to play Bingo every night, she can go once a month, when tv shows the poor people in their home, they have flat screen TVs, nice refrigerator, decent clothes and very nice tennis shoes, again there ain’t no poor people in the USA. I assume you are being humorous. You want to see poverty, come to New Mexico. You want to see worn out old cars and trucks on the road, come to New Mexico. You want to see ragged children and hungry folks, come to New Mexico. Northern part of the state has double digit unemployment. Food charities are very busy this time of year trying to distribute groceries. I used to do that with the USDA Senior Citizen Commodity Program. I know how bad it is here because I have seen it up close. Flat screen TVs? Big refers? Fancy shoes? Not here. Most everyone I know uses an old Obama Flip Phone. No Smart phones or hand held devices in these parts. The Christmas food boxes are stacked by the hundreds at firehouses for the poor folks. This is a hard time of year for people with kids who are as poor as they are here. I know people who do not even have a hot water heater because they cannot afford the fuel cost. They heat water on a wood stove. We just put running water into the house of a neighbor. He was using the well his grandfather dug and a dip bucket.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 4, 2019 21:36:38 GMT -5
Maybe you are too young. It was banned in 69. I was born in 69. Did I know your mother? 😈😈🤠
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 4, 2019 21:39:23 GMT -5
I assume you are being humorous. You want to see poverty, come to New Mexico. You want to see worn out old cars and trucks on the road, come to New Mexico. You want to see ragged children and hungry folks, come to New Mexico. Northern part of the state has double digit unemployment. Food charities are very busy this time of year trying to distribute groceries. I used to do that with the USDA Senior Citizen Commodity Program. I know how bad it is here because I have seen it up close. Flat screen TVs? Big refers? Fancy shoes? Not here. Most everyone I know uses an old Obama Flip Phone. No Smart phones or hand held devices in these parts. The Christmas food boxes are stacked by the hundreds at firehouses for the poor folks. This is a hard time of year for people with kids who are as poor as they are here. I know people who do not even have a hot water heater because they cannot afford the fuel cost. They heat water on a wood stove. We just put running water into the house of a neighbor. He was using the well his grandfather dug and a dip bucket. Aren't these people living the life that they have grown up with? Are they worse off than they were a hundred years ago? Poverty means something different even in New Mexico and Mississippi than Bangladesh or Somalia.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Dec 4, 2019 21:58:44 GMT -5
I was born in 69. So Im not the only youngun here! I was born in December of 68! I was -7 then. Born October 75 here. Dear god, I'm not the youngest here am I??
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Post by toshtego on Dec 4, 2019 22:09:47 GMT -5
Flat screen TVs? Big refers? Fancy shoes? Not here. Most everyone I know uses an old Obama Flip Phone. No Smart phones or hand held devices in these parts. The Christmas food boxes are stacked by the hundreds at firehouses for the poor folks. This is a hard time of year for people with kids who are as poor as they are here. I know people who do not even have a hot water heater because they cannot afford the fuel cost. They heat water on a wood stove. We just put running water into the house of a neighbor. He was using the well his grandfather dug and a dip bucket. Aren't these people living the life that they have grown up with? Are they worse off than they were a hundred years ago? Poverty means something different even in New Mexico and Mississippi than Bangladesh or Somalia. They are worse off. 100 years ago, cash was not as important as it is now. The biggest challenge these people have faced since 1847 is loosing their lands and homes to the government over taxes. 100 years ago, this community was thriving. It ws bigger than Taos. The largest trading post in northern NM was here, actually next door. This was a robust farming community with a railhead only seven miles away so goods could go to market. Thousands and thousands of sheep here. Many farms producing grains and vegetables for market. Five plazas with trading posts. The differences between then and now are astounding. Since I came here, we have lost the lumber mill, the molybdenum mine, the ski resort. These were the economic drivers. Now, there are a few farms producing animal feed and that is it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:02:44 GMT -5
If you have a cell phone hmmmm. Maybe food and utilities are more important. Welfare is a hand up not a lifestyle. The Molycorp mine is a superfund no? People have to move to where the jobs are. That is why we see mass migration to Tejas from the North East rust belt. That is how my daughter ended up in Utah and why I moved back to Houston 15 years ago. It is also why I left Houston in the 80s. Nobody wants wool or mohair anymore it is no longer 1950. The wool and mohair capitol of the world is San Angelo Tejas. People no longer raise Angora goats there is no demand for the wool. Lumber is harvested where it grows fast in warm humid climates on the gulf coast. The Taos/Santa Fe area is now the land of overpriced real estate for yuppies who think they are artists. Coal has been replaced by the abundance of cleaner burning natural gas steam plants. You have to reach out and grab the golden ring on the carousel of life and be ready to move. The other option is sit and wish. I no longer work due to pea poor health but while I don't throw money to the wind I have never not once been hungry or with out a shelter. Not once have been without electricity and a full tank of gas in the car. I sent my daughter to private schools and put her through college all on a blue collar wage. I don't get any money from the government and cant wait until I can draw my retirement savings tax free. The answer to any problem is work and if you choose not to poverty. The meek shall inherent the earth but I don't think it is coming anytime soon. And yes John I respect your view and thank you voicing it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:06:51 GMT -5
So Im not the only youngun here! I was born in December of 68! I was -7 then. Born October 75 here. Dear god, I'm not the youngest here am I?? I think we have one under 25 here Orley. I was born in 65 so I suppose I am youngster around here.
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Post by Low and Slow on Dec 4, 2019 23:08:09 GMT -5
Finally got started on the truck today, didn't get as far as I would have liked but I should be able to finish up tomorrow. Well, with the original task anyway, I discovered another problem in my tinkering that will need to be addressed while I am at it. That's how it goes though. Just glad its something I can do myself, hopefully lol.
Getting greasy again tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:18:19 GMT -5
You are doing the oil pump on your Ford Joe that is a job. Be sure and buy a Melling HVLP and Felpro gaskets so you never have to do it again.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 4, 2019 23:22:19 GMT -5
I have seen this so many times. Sanderson Texas was a great railhead for sheep and Cattle. Now it's a not so wide place on a lonely road. Many towns all over Texas that were once thriving and dying are reinventing themselves and growing again. Others are not. In the 42 years that we've been visiting New Mexico I haven't seen any urgency on the part of anyone to create jobs or solve problems. The state seems to be headed backwards except for the rich that have moved in from out of state and they don't care about the natives. But that's the history of the world. You have to make your own way, and take what you want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:34:58 GMT -5
Kudos to New Mexico State Hwy improvements.
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Post by kbareit on Dec 5, 2019 6:18:14 GMT -5
So Im not the only youngun here! I was born in December of 68! Ha! You’re 4 months older. You Whippersnappers you. I was born in 66.
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Post by Penzaholic on Dec 5, 2019 8:22:33 GMT -5
Yesterday wife was discussing divorce at 2PM, 2 hours later we were playing Mattress Mambo,such is life.
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Post by just ol ed on Dec 5, 2019 8:51:52 GMT -5
enjoying this recent part of the thread. Will simply say if anybody seeing this can beat 12/29/40...be glad to give up my "seniority". (27.5 yrs on the railroad, seniority was everything).
'nuff said for you young'uns! Heh
Ed Duncan, Batavia, NY as said yrs ago by late pro rassler Dick the Bruiser..."I wasn't borned, I happened"
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Post by toshtego on Dec 5, 2019 10:29:29 GMT -5
If you have a cell phone hmmmm. Maybe food and utilities are more important. Welfare is a hand up not a lifestyle. The Molycorp mine is a superfund no? People have to move to where the jobs are. That is why we see mass migration to Tejas from the North East rust belt. That is how my daughter ended up in Utah and why I moved back to Houston 15 years ago. It is also why I left Houston in the 80s. Nobody wants wool or mohair anymore it is no longer 1950. The wool and mohair capitol of the world is San Angelo Tejas. People no longer raise Angora goats there is no demand for the wool. Lumber is harvested where it grows fast in warm humid climates on the gulf coast. The Taos/Santa Fe area is now the land of overpriced real estate for yuppies who think they are artists. Coal has been replaced by the abundance of cleaner burning natural gas steam plants. You have to reach out and grab the golden ring on the carousel of life and be ready to move. The other option is sit and wish. I no longer work due to pea poor health but while I don't throw money to the wind I have never not once been hungry or with out a shelter. Not once have been without electricity and a full tank of gas in the car. I sent my daughter to private schools and put her through college all on a blue collar wage. I don't get any money from the government and cant wait until I can draw my retirement savings tax free. The answer to any problem is work and if you choose not to poverty. The meek shall inherent the earth but I don't think it is coming anytime soon. And yes John I respect your view and thank you voicing it. The Moly mine is a superfund site and most of the clean=up crew are contractors imported from Texas. Very few of the local miners were hired. That is the way Chevron has it organized. Yes, people migrate for jobs and many left here years ago during WWII when defense plants sprang up in hte west. It is harder to do that these days. The cost of relocating an entire family. Some young and single people have sought working lives elsewhere. Many people choose to stay because they are on family land owned free and clear. There are not a lot of jobs. Why? The federal government is the largest landowner in this state and does little with their holding. Logging for lumber is out. Mining is out. Some grazing of livestock occurs but not much. The USFS even tried to ban cutting dead trees for firewood. They faced massive civil disobedience and relented. The point being the presence of the US government eclipses other economic opportunity. The federal government pays no property taxes to the State of NM or the counties and contributes very little in the way of money. Then there is access to financial products by the residents. Home owner insurance was almost impossible to get in some areas. It was the same for home loans or business loans. Farm loans? Forget about it unless the borrower is one of the few large operators. I have had USDA credit people laugh in my face when asking about farm credit here. Ditto, the SBA following a massive wild fire here. Their response, "I did not know there were any real businesses in that community". There are structural economic problems which are way beyond simply lazy people. NM will never be treated the same as other states. The reasons for that are partly racial. I cannot overstate the number of times I have had to explain to representatives of US corporations that New Mexico is part of the United States. While that seems silly it is indicative of a mindset. It is not all doom and gloom. There are bright spots here. The Permian Basin portion of NM has brought much tax revenue to the state and jobs to some people in the south although many are Texas transplants. The movie industry has found NM as good place for filming and studio work. Other smaller business have followed those rich yuppies mentioned above. Still, it is a place with many very poor people. For much of the state, the great prosperity others talk about just never happened here. Why, these poor people are begrudged some assistance from a nation as rich as this one will always bother me.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 5, 2019 11:25:39 GMT -5
One more great thing about Texas is No Federal Land!
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Post by Lady Margaret on Dec 5, 2019 11:45:19 GMT -5
hubby and I are heading out in the morning for Grantsville, MD to attend Christmas in the Village at Spruce Forest. From there on Saturday we are going to Marietta OH to check out The Anchorage, an historic house, then that evening will be doing a candlelight tour of Victorian homes in Parkersburg decorated for Christmas. I suspect we will be getting home late Saturday evening.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 5, 2019 13:23:08 GMT -5
I have seen this so many times. Sanderson Texas was a great railhead for sheep and Cattle. Now it's a not so wide place on a lonely road. Many towns all over Texas that were once thriving and dying are reinventing themselves and growing again. Others are not. In the 42 years that we've been visiting New Mexico I haven't seen any urgency on the part of anyone to create jobs or solve problems. The state seems to be headed backwards except for the rich that have moved in from out of state and they don't care about the natives. But that's the history of the world. You have to make your own way, and take what you want. I have to agree with you about that. I once asked Governor Martinez Secretary of Economic Development why the state cannot seem to attract employers to set up plants and hire people. The response was their are not enough educated and skilled people in the state for any major employer to want to come here.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 5, 2019 13:25:20 GMT -5
One more great thing about Texas is No Federal Land! That is a blessing in some ways. On the other hand, I am surrounded by emptiness as it is USFS National Forest to the east and BLM wastelands to the west.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 5, 2019 16:34:51 GMT -5
One more great thing about Texas is No Federal Land! That is a blessing in some ways. On the other hand, I am surrounded by emptiness as it is USFS National Forest to the east and BLM wastelands to the west. I am surrounded by a wildlife preserve, but I can't see it or get to it because of the traffic.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 5, 2019 16:42:10 GMT -5
John (Tosh) said.."Why, these poor people are begrudged some assistance from a nation as rich as this one will always bother me." Bothers me that we have billions to give to countries that hate us...why?....because we have so much to give them (financially) and much of that aid doesn't go to the people of that country...lands in the pockets of the governing community...giving rise to hatred because we have it so much better than them. The old story...The haves have it and the have nots have nothing....nothing but hatred for the hand that is outstretched.
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Post by puffy on Dec 5, 2019 18:13:28 GMT -5
Education in my opinion in the key to a more prosperous life..If you can afford it..That Is
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 5, 2019 18:24:08 GMT -5
Yesterday wife was discussing divorce at 2PM, 2 hours later we were playing Mattress Mambo,such is life. now we know why you're not sleeping. 😉
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Post by taharris on Dec 5, 2019 18:35:15 GMT -5
I was born in 69. Did I know your mother? 😈😈🤠 Dad?
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 5, 2019 21:58:02 GMT -5
Did I know your mother? 😈😈🤠 Dad? 😵
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 22:16:42 GMT -5
Who needs 23 and Me when you have a pipe forum.
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Post by Low and Slow on Dec 5, 2019 22:31:34 GMT -5
You are doing the oil pump on your Ford Joe that is a job. Be sure and buy a Melling HVLP and Felpro gaskets so you never have to do it again. It is... man all the stuff in the way! I am really happy so far as I have had all the tools needed and few hang ups. Other than some very tight and stubborn nuts and bolts to break free, as well as some accessibility issues to oil pan bolts. I did get the melling and felpro before I got started, but the recommendation is appreciated and gives me some piece of mind. Thanks Tomorrow will likely be more fun than today and yesterday that's for sure. Stay tuned.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 22:40:07 GMT -5
Ford used to use Nylon on the upper timing gear depending on how many miles you have on it. Your pretty close to it. I had 1995 Ford 4x4 and the first time I did the clutch I found out they had used Huck rivets on all the crossmembers and the twin I beam mounts. Oil pans are never fun no matter how long the pan has been off there are two more drops left to fall on your face. Murphy's Law.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 5, 2019 22:45:45 GMT -5
At the chiropractor office I was parked in a row of 4 4-door Ram pickups. On the way to the pain clinic I was in a line of 6 4-door Ram pickups. I hate being part of a popular trend. 🤬🤠
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