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Post by Matthew on Apr 23, 2018 19:09:21 GMT -5
In another thread I mentioned that the clerk(s)
at my closest B&M Like to act superior and snobbish.
The best example I could give is their "correcting".
The last visit there I commented that I liked Latakia and
Perique.Now I have read an article by ,I believe, Russ O
with the owners of St.James Perique.And if I remember
correctly,he gave the proper pronunciations as La-Ta-Kia
and Per-Ah-Kee.The clerk corrected me with La-Teak-A and
Pa-Reek.So have you heard other variations?
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Post by slowroll on Apr 23, 2018 19:27:41 GMT -5
I've always understood lat-a-kia and pear-REEK. The last would be how it would be in French, maybe the Cajuns say it differently.
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Post by peteguy on Apr 23, 2018 21:01:18 GMT -5
I use Pear eek and Lat a kia. But then I am the guy that said Rad iss for years until corrected (Radice). LOL
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Post by Baboo on Apr 23, 2018 21:06:18 GMT -5
It's Perikea and Latapique... tell the clerk to go fry an egg...
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Post by Matthew on Apr 23, 2018 21:10:24 GMT -5
I'm not real sure which is correct.I figure that if
they know what I'm talking about,then why make
me uncomfortable by correcting how I say it?
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Post by Matthew on Apr 23, 2018 21:12:13 GMT -5
It's Perikea and Latapique... tell the clerk to go fry an egg... No,I like fried eggs.But I'll gladly show him his I.Q. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Apr 23, 2018 21:35:38 GMT -5
I dunno, but the spelling of the word Perique would be pronounced as "pear-reek" since it's French. and Latakia is always pronounced as "lah-ta-kia".
That clerk's first name is pronounced as "imbecile", where the final "e" is silent.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 23, 2018 22:34:01 GMT -5
Pedants abound.
Best to ignore them.
Just fill the damn order, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 23:18:05 GMT -5
I dunno, but the spelling of the word Perique would be pronounced as "pear-reek" since it's French. and Latakia is always pronounced as "lah-ta-kia". That clerk's first name is pronounced as "imbecile", where the final "e" is silent. Sablebrush has both the pronunciations and assessment of the clerk correct. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 23, 2018 23:47:24 GMT -5
 It's very very impolite to correct someone's speech, local people pronounce things very different sometimes. Mathew don't let it throw you you were the one who was offended. Little story a high roller and his wife had a Condo where I had my fishing Condo. They were about 20 yrs older than my wife and I. I lived at the Condo he didn't, I made sure his 45 ft yacht was always tied up tight during fowl weather and we were in enclosed boathouses. He liked my coffe which I made very strong. One day he came over with his wife, who I did not know very well, we talked about people we knew and I said I was friends with a Siaae, she corrected me and said it a different way, now I was pronunceing it the way my friend did. She would not leave it alone and kept on about the pronunciation, my Cajun Ire took over and I put my nose in her face and said I've never hit a woman , especially an old woman, but if you say another word I"ll Slap The shite out of you. After that he didn't drink my coffee and I didn't tie his boat up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 0:05:42 GMT -5
It's very very impolite to correct someone's speech, local people pronounce things very different sometimes. Very true. I've spent the majority of my life in Colorado and have a "western" accent. My kids think it's hilarious that I pronounce theater as "thee-A-ter", but I recall that my that brother and I thought it was funny that my father pronounced creek as "crick" and wrestling as "rastle-ing", so "what goes around comes around".  |
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Post by Stanhill on Apr 24, 2018 2:16:03 GMT -5
That clerk is a perique, (pronounced 'prick'). |
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 24, 2018 3:50:52 GMT -5
...next time you see that clerk, tell him to fold it five ways and...
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 9:07:14 GMT -5
It's very very impolite to correct someone's speech, local people pronounce things very different sometimes. Mathew don't let it throw you you were the one who was offended. Little story a high roller and his wife had a Condo where I had my fishing Condo. They were about 20 yrs older than my wife and I. I lived at the Condo he didn't, I made sure his 45 ft yacht was always tied up tight during fowl weather and we were in enclosed boathouses. He liked my coffe which I made very strong. One day he came over with his wife, who I did not know very well, we talked about people we knew and I said I was friends with a Siaae, she corrected me and said it a different way, now I was pronunceing it the way my friend did. She would not leave it alone and kept on about the pronunciation, my Cajun Ire took over and I put my nose in her face and said I've never hit a woman , especially an old woman, but if you say another word I"ll Slap The shite out of you. After that he didn't drink my coffee and I didn't tie his boat up. I'm sorry your friendship suffered in that way.I have friends that don't mix well with my wife,and she has friends that I don't care for.But we respect that we both have a need for socializing that doesn't always include the other.Myself, I would have cut that particular visit short,taken my wife home,and returned for another cup of coffee.I LIKE strong CAJUN brews. |
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 9:09:38 GMT -5
...next time you see that clerk, tell him to fold it five ways and... He probably would have said "It only folds four " While I'm at it,I like the Canadian term "Imbecil-Eh" |
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Post by joeman on Apr 24, 2018 11:15:36 GMT -5
If their customer service is so poor that they can't stand to hear you say Perique that way (which by the way...is how EVERYone I know says it...including many in the tobacco industry)...I'd take my business elsewhere. If they corrected you...just imagine how many folks they've corrected in the same manner...yikes! It's obvious from that one little detail that the customer does NOT come first in that shop. The next word I'd say to them is...buh-bye!
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 24, 2018 11:37:00 GMT -5
I abhor being corrected... Pear-Eek. Lat-Ah-Kia. I've heard that Lah-Ta-Kia is correct as Sable mentioned, but it just doesn't hit my ear right and I always feel pompous using accents on words- Maybe it's being from Pittsburgh, but my eyes roll when someone pronounces France as Fronce. haha
Either way, these clerks sound like D-Bags. (Dee-Bags)
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Post by gav on Apr 24, 2018 11:45:24 GMT -5
Calm down snowflakes. The real question is "Ketch-up" or "cats-up". "Mclel-Land" or "Mcclel-lund"
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Post by zver on Apr 24, 2018 11:47:28 GMT -5
Sadly that is why the online stores are killing the B&M. There isn't anyone stupid behind the counter. You look through a list pick what you want, pay for it, then wait for santa (UPS, USPS or who every is shipping it) to deliver it.
I am a patient man so waiting a few days for a presant to open isn't a bad way to go.
On the other hand my closest shop has a cool owner and the group that smokes there regularly are worth the trip to visit. So I do like a nice place to go for smoke.
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Post by Baboo on Apr 24, 2018 11:53:16 GMT -5
Were I the clerk of that shop or any other, I would simply say the word/s my way and leave it up to the customer to either adopt my pronunciation or not. Personally, i have been in conversations where i said it my way throughout and the other participants said it their way (differently) throughout. No skin off anyone's nose... Nobody's feathers got ruffled and the conversations were wonderful regardless.
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Post by joeman on Apr 24, 2018 12:02:15 GMT -5
The real question is "Ketch-up" or "cats-up". And HERE is your answer to that...  |
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Post by zambini on Apr 24, 2018 12:02:33 GMT -5
Were I the clerk of that shop or any other, I would simply say the word/s my way and leave it up to the customer to either adopt my pronunciation or not. Personally, i have been in conversations where i said it my way throughout and the other participants said it their way (differently) throughout. No skin off anyone's nose... Nobody's feathers got ruffled and the conversations were wonderful regardless. As some one who makes a concerted affort not to mangle foreign languages in conversation, I'm open to having my pronounciation corrected. Having said that I'm in total agreement with you, politeness and efficiency rely on personal comfort and mutual intelligibility more so than shared pronounciation. |
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Post by cgvt on Apr 24, 2018 12:44:42 GMT -5
I have a know-it-all sister-in-law who is a nurse. I was talking to her about the constant ringing in my ears (30 years of driving boats and ships...) The medical term is tinnitus. I pronounced it te-NITE-us. She corrected me with TIN-eh-tis. Her pronunciation is the way Brits and people in the medical profession usually say it, mine is how most American lay people say it. I really don't give a crap one way or the other, but I have taken to be sure to pronounce it te-NITE-us when ever I talk to her about it and she corrects me every time. I just smile inside  |
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 12:58:22 GMT -5
Were I the clerk of that shop or any other, I would simply say the word/s my way and leave it up to the customer to either adopt my pronunciation or not. Personally, i have been in conversations where i said it my way throughout and the other participants said it their way (differently) throughout. No skin off anyone's nose... Nobody's feathers got ruffled and the conversations were wonderful regardless. Had it been in the course of the conversation would have been one thing,but he interrupted me in order to correct me.I just took it he was calling me stupid.I didn't start an argument with him,nor did I leave in a huff.But,I will travel about another 40 miles to a B&M that I enjoy going to.In fact several years back the clerk at that store showed me a few pipes he was trying to clear out and one of which a Rossi he sold to me for around $25.The sticker on it read $110.On the other hand I also picked up my Peterson's ashtray, a double pipe pouch,and about three lbs of tobacco.The only extra was the pipe.But at the good shop,I've seen them stop whatever they were doing, including finishing a phone call,to help a customer.They are always polite, and I've yet to hear them interrupt a customer to correct them or finish their question.Very patient,professional,and informed. |
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Post by steveinny on Apr 24, 2018 13:01:04 GMT -5
Tomato, ToeMahto, Herb (silent H or not?) We still know exactly what we're talking about. Don't split hairs with your customers and correct them.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 13:01:07 GMT -5
Calm down snowflakes. The real question is "Ketch-up" or "cats-up". "Mclel-Land" or "Mcclel-lund" Tis the first I've been called a "Snowflake"  Now is that Tomato ketchup or Mustard catsup? |
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 24, 2018 13:04:49 GMT -5
Were I the clerk of that shop or any other, I would simply say the word/s my way and leave it up to the customer to either adopt my pronunciation or not. Personally, i have been in conversations where i said it my way throughout and the other participants said it their way (differently) throughout. No skin off anyone's nose... Nobody's feathers got ruffled and the conversations were wonderful regardless. Had it been in the course of the conversation would have been one thing,but he interrupted me in order to correct me.I just took it he was calling me stupid.I didn't start an argument with him,nor did I leave in a huff.But,I will travel about another 40 miles to a B&M that I enjoy going to.In fact several years back the clerk at that store showed me a few pipes he was trying to clear out and one of which a Rossi he sold to me for around $25.The sticker on it read $110.On the other hand I also picked up my Peterson's ashtray, a double pipe pouch,and about three lbs of tobacco.The only extra was the pipe.But at the good shop,I've seen them stop whatever they were doing, including finishing a phone call,to help a customer.They are always polite, and I've yet to hear them interrupt a customer to correct them or finish their question.Very patient,professional,and informed. ...pronounce words however you like, Matthew... you are not stupid, and we value your comments here. |
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 13:09:47 GMT -5
I have a know-it-all sister-in-law who is a nurse. I was talking to her about the constant ringing in my ears (30 years of driving boats and ships...) The medical term is tinnitus. I pronounced it te-NITE-us. She corrected me with TIN-eh-tis. Her pronunciation is the way Brits and people in the medical profession usually say it, mine is how most American lay people say it. I really don't give a crap one way or the other, but I have taken to be sure to pronounce it te-NITE-us when ever I talk to her about it and she corrects me every time. I just smile inside I call that "Evidence". Proof that my wife is better at swinging a frying pan than I am at DUCKING. |
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 13:19:45 GMT -5
When I was in buisness I had this one customer that had a terrible
stutter.I spent hours talking with him about the job at hand or
the weather,or just about anything.He was one of my best customers.
At 17 he bought his first house,and filled the old basement in with sand.
A 1200 sq/ft basement.He did it with a 5 gallon bucket thru a casement window.
His chief complaint about people he dealt with was that they got impatient and
tried to speak for him.At least once a month I had to stop in and have lunch
with him or he'd hunt me down to make sure I was alright.You take care of,
and RESPECT your clientele and they will take care of YOU.
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Post by Baboo on Apr 24, 2018 13:27:58 GMT -5
Years ago I dined at a neighborhood Greek restaurant, as I did regularly. One evening I ordered my usual, along with the usual side of pita bread. Well, on this one loathsome occasion, the waitress/owner/cook brought my meal to the table with very burnt/black pita bread, which is always otherwise lightly grilled the way I enjoy. When I asked her to please replace the black pita, she retorted that "bread is bread". I stood up from my uneaten meal, laid a twenty on the table, told her my business with her after all these years was dead... "dead is dead". I never went back.
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It's very very impolite to correct someone's speech, local people pronounce things very different sometimes. Mathew don't let it throw you you were the one who was offended. Little story a high roller and his wife had a Condo where I had my fishing Condo. They were about 20 yrs older than my wife and I. I lived at the Condo he didn't, I made sure his 45 ft yacht was always tied up tight during fowl weather and we were in enclosed boathouses. He liked my coffe which I made very strong. One day he came over with his wife, who I did not know very well, we talked about people we knew and I said I was friends with a Siaae, she corrected me and said it a different way, now I was pronunceing it the way my friend did. She would not leave it alone and kept on about the pronunciation, my Cajun Ire took over and I put my nose in her face and said I've never hit a woman , especially an old woman, but if you say another word I"ll Slap The shite out of you. After that he didn't drink my coffee and I didn't tie his boat up.
