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Post by Stanhill on Apr 24, 2018 13:39:29 GMT -5
A bloke has invited his new date to dinner in a fancy French restaurant and to impress her, he orders in French. The waiter bends down and whispers in his ear "I shall not correct your French pronouncation; perish the thought, dear Sir, but you have just ordered an oven-baked tractor".
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Post by gav on Apr 24, 2018 13:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 24, 2018 14:37:48 GMT -5
I had a friend who was trying to learn Cajun French. He attended classes at UL local college in Lafayette La. one day he asked that I go with him that night for a class, thinking it would be nice to attend and drink a few afterwards I went. They were making short sentences and each and every student had to partake. When it came to my friends turn he said his sentence and the Old Cajun Woman instructor turned red. Seems my buddy was careless and coat and condom are close to the same pronunciation with a different twist. It really was halirious and all thru the night drinking a few I would say in French, get me my condom, no get me my coat, to his charign.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 24, 2018 16:34:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, Matthew. It's been said above but that sucks... And who's to say any one person is right? Dialects differ.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 16:57:10 GMT -5
The MD who was examining me after my neck injury corrected me for saying "you know" too many times. Told him to get effed and worry about my neck. Not surprised the operation didn't go well.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 16:58:49 GMT -5
Usually with several cuss words.Most worthless group of rejects I can think of.I would like to move to Guam. Then I would at least be tall again.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 17:03:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, Matthew. It's been said above but that sucks... And who's to say any one person is right? Dialects differ. Exactly, My wife says "tomato" and I say "BLECH".
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Post by pappyjoe on Apr 24, 2018 17:21:47 GMT -5
It's very very impolite to correct someone's speech, local people pronounce things very different sometimes. Mathew don't let it throw you you were the one who was offended. Little story a high roller and his wife had a Condo where I had my fishing Condo. They were about 20 yrs older than my wife and I. I lived at the Condo he didn't, I made sure his 45 ft yacht was always tied up tight during fowl weather and we were in enclosed boathouses. He liked my coffe which I made very strong. One day he came over with his wife, who I did not know very well, we talked about people we knew and I said I was friends with a Siaae, she corrected me and said it a different way, now I was pronunceing it the way my friend did. She would not leave it alone and kept on about the pronunciation, my Cajun Ire took over and I put my nose in her face and said I've never hit a woman , especially an old woman, but if you say another word I"ll Slap The shite out of you. After that he didn't drink my coffee and I didn't tie his boat up. Sort of like the way they pronounce Hebert "He Bert" up north and Hebert "A-Bear" down here. I'm with the pear reek and la tah kia group. Now. Pronounce Atchafalaya and Tchoupitoulas.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 17:39:17 GMT -5
I had a friend who was trying to learn Cajun French. He attended classes at UL local college in Lafayette La. one day he asked that I go with him that night for a class, thinking it would be nice to attend and drink a few afterwards I went. They were making short sentences and each and every student had to partake. When it came to my friends turn he said his sentence and the Old Cajun Woman instructor turned red. Seems my buddy was careless and coat and condom are close to the same pronunciation with a different twist. It really was halirious and all thru the night drinking a few I would say in French, get me my condom, no get me my coat, to his charign. Back when the Mrs and I first got married,we took the kids and went doen to McAllen,Tx to visit my in-laws. So on the second day we're there,we all troop across the border into Reynosa Mexico.After bopping around looking for sales and the folks filling their scripts we stopped in an approved restaurant for lunch.Now,no one in our group spoke Spanish,and reading it,not gonna happen.So the poor waiter is trapped by my FIL who is of the school that if you yell it loud enough they WILL understand.Took almost 30 min for them to get their order straight.The waiter gets down to me and I just pointed at a picture of something that looked good. Well we all got fed,and my FIL got up and payed the ticket,again more yelling and blank looks.I was greatly embarrassed.On the way out the door,I was last in line,I turned to the cashier,kind of shrugged and said "I'm Sorry" with a nod towards the group. With a sly smile she replied " It's alright" in a perfect Texas drawl.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 24, 2018 17:43:05 GMT -5
Sort of like the way they pronounce Hebert "He Bert" up north and Hebert "A-Bear" down here. I'm with the pear reek and la tah kia group. Now. Pronounce Atchafalaya and Tchoupitoulas. Gesundheit!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 17:46:14 GMT -5
I'm with the majority (and the French) when if comes to Perique. There's nothing about it that says Per-Ah-Kee. By the same token, how could someone derive La-Teak-A from Latakia.
But there is debate over whether it's Lah-tah-KEY-ah or Lah-TAH-key-ah. I always said the latter, then my mom corrected me and said, "that's how your father said it." It also sounds more Arab, so it probably correct.
Then again, why do we call Deutschland "Germany"? If the guy who actually grows Perique calls it Per-Ah-Kee I'm not going to correct him. But I'm not gonna say it, either!
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Post by toshtego on Apr 24, 2018 19:30:18 GMT -5
Then there is "Missouri".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 3:01:12 GMT -5
But there is debate over whether it's Lah-tah-KEY-ah or Lah-TAH-key-ah. I always said the latter, then my mom corrected me and said, "that's how your father said it." It also sounds more Arab, so it probably correct. I originally pronounced it the second way too, but your mom is correct. Latakia
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 3:32:22 GMT -5
But there is debate over whether it's Lah-tah-KEY-ah or Lah-TAH-key-ah. I always said the latter, then my mom corrected me and said, "that's how your father said it." It also sounds more Arab, so it probably correct. I originally pronounced it the second way too, but your mom is correct. Latakia Pronunciation
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Post by Matthew on Apr 25, 2018 10:11:49 GMT -5
Then there is "Missouri". Now you're just being mean,I gave up on that one years ago..............
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Post by daveincollamer on Apr 25, 2018 12:14:36 GMT -5
In another thread I mentioned that the clerk(s) at my closest B&M Like to act superior and snobbish. The best example I could give is their "correcting". The last visit there I commented that I liked Latakia and Perique.Now I have read an article by ,I believe, Russ O with the owners of St.James Perique.And if I remember correctly,he gave the proper pronunciations as La-Ta-Kia and Per-Ah-Kee.The clerk corrected me with La-Teak-A and Pa-Reek.So have you heard other variations? The only variations I heard of, is the clerk's name, Douche Nozzle (doooosh nozzle). Used to be a rarity in our area, but as I get older, their numbers seem to be on the rise. One way to recognize them is described above, another very irritating clue that somebody is part of the Douche Nozzle family, the loud cell phone conversationalist in the checkout line (you know what I mean, put your phone down and pay for your items). All of this probably explains the lack of respect shown nationally now. Man I am getting old.
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Post by cgvt on Apr 25, 2018 14:06:47 GMT -5
Speaking of dialects, a few years ago, I transferred from Cordova, Alaska to Burlington, Vermont and bought a house. The people we bought it from had to rent it back from us for a couple of months so I called USAA to get insurance on the house. I am originally from Michigan and I was calling a company that is based in Texas. After explaining my situation, the woman on the phone said, "Oh yes, you will need far insurance". This confused me as she kept referring to far insurance. I was thinking, "Far? Far from what?" Do I need some special insurance because I will be living far from the house? Then it hit me. She was telling me I needed FIRE insurance. Ha!
After I got off the phone I told my wife about it. She is a North Carolina native. Of course, a woman that calls cement SEE-ment and an umbrella an UM-brella and once told me she needed to renew her Tom subscription (Time Magazine) did not see why I was amused. I got a chuckle out of the episode, though.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 25, 2018 14:08:46 GMT -5
In another thread I mentioned that the clerk(s) at my closest B&M Like to act superior and snobbish. The best example I could give is their "correcting". The last visit there I commented that I liked Latakia and Perique.Now I have read an article by ,I believe, Russ O with the owners of St.James Perique.And if I remember correctly,he gave the proper pronunciations as La-Ta-Kia and Per-Ah-Kee.The clerk corrected me with La-Teak-A and Pa-Reek.So have you heard other variations? The only variations I heard of, is the clerk's name, Douche Nozzle (doooosh nozzle). Used to be a rarity in our area, but as I get older, their numbers seem to be on the rise. One way to recognize them is described above, another very irritating clue that somebody is part of the Douche Nozzle family, the loud cell phone conversationalist in the checkout line (you know what I mean, put your phone down and pay for your items). All of this probably explains the lack of respect shown nationally now. Man I am getting old. There is alway the patriarch/matriarch who is the clerk who can't hang up to ring up the sale.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 19:24:02 GMT -5
I had a French girlfriend and she was shocked once when I commented on her very thick, stereotypically French accent. "Mais no, mon cherie - I do not have an accent!" She literally could not hear it - but when I imitated the way she spoke English back to her, she could.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 25, 2018 20:03:51 GMT -5
I took French classes in school,but quit after I got an "F" because the dweeb next to me was cheating.Told the instructor I would rather have an "Incomplete" than continue in a hostile environment.And it did get hostile when I caught up with the kid after class.
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Post by Wolfman on Apr 25, 2018 20:09:06 GMT -5
I dunno, but the spelling of the word Perique would be pronounced as "pear-reek" since it's French. and Latakia is always pronounced as "lah-ta-kia". That clerk's first name is pronounced as "imbecile", where the final "e" is silent. I’m cracking up!
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Post by slowroll on Apr 25, 2018 20:14:33 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of French, I observed a general case when I traveled a lot in France for business and vacations. As long as one was making an attempt to speak French politely, the French never Corrected my pronunciation or grammar unless I first asked them too, even in Paris. They occasionally ask me to repeat something, but that was it. And, when I unknowingly encountered someone who spoke English well, they would usually offer to speak English to make it easier on me. What they really hated, understandably,were the idiots who thought they could make someone understand English by just shouting louder. I have some good stories about those types--for another time.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 25, 2018 22:46:14 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of French, I observed a general case when I traveled a lot in France for business and vacations. As long as one was making an attempt to speak French politely, the French never Corrected my pronunciation or grammar unless I first asked them too, even in Paris. They occasionally ask me to repeat something, but that was it. And, when I unknowingly encountered someone who spoke English well, they would usually offer to speak English to make it easier on me. What they really hated, understandably,were the idiots who thought they could make someone understand English by just shouting louder. I have some good stories about those types--for another time. I posted a story like that in the other thread,so please,go right ahead. This is as good a place as any.
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Post by Stanhill on Apr 26, 2018 4:29:53 GMT -5
I'm with the majority (and the French) when if comes to Perique. There's nothing about it that says Per-Ah-Kee. By the same token, how could someone derive La-Teak-A from Latakia. But there is debate over whether it's Lah-tah-KEY-ah or Lah-TAH-key-ah. I always said the latter, then my mom corrected me and said, "that's how your father said it." It also sounds more Arab, so it probably correct. Then again, why do we call Deutschland "Germany"? If the guy who actually grows Perique calls it Per-Ah-Kee I'm not going to correct him. But I'm not gonna say it, either! From the old Roman name 'Germania', perhaps..? Here in Denmark, that great tobacco is pronounced 'La'takia' and some 18 months ago I heard it pronounced by an American, working at my usual tobacconist, and he said 'Lata'kia'. Interesting. He didn't correct my pronouncation, though.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 26, 2018 14:57:17 GMT -5
For me it is the manner in which the correction is given.... a snotty rebuke is uncalled for, or someone trying to ridicule you publicly.
But A publicly arrogant person that prides themselves on their learnedness calling a corpsman, a corpse man deserves the ridicule he or she gets.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 26, 2018 15:50:54 GMT -5
But A publicly arrogant person that prides themselves on their learnedness calling a corpsman, a corpse man deserves the ridicule he or she gets. I did that in a bar one night,,,,,best a$$ whooping I ever got. Broke two ribs and a concussion.But hay,I was Infantry we're supposed to be stupid,,,Right?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 14:31:40 GMT -5
The unfortunate events in Syria,taught the world how to pronounce Latakia and it is not how tobacco snobs have been mispronouncing it for years.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 1, 2018 22:50:58 GMT -5
Years ago I dined at a neighborhood Greek restaurant, as I did regularly. One evening I ordered my usual, along with the usual side of pita bread. Well, on this one loathsome occasion, the waitress/owner/cook brought my meal to the table with very burnt/black pita bread, which is always otherwise lightly grilled the way I enjoy. When I asked her to please replace the black pita, she retorted that "bread is bread". I stood up from my uneaten meal, laid a twenty on the table, told her my business with her after all these years was dead... "dead is dead". I never went back. Sometimes a good Greek restaurant is hard to find. Who did you hurt the most?
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Post by Ronv69 on May 1, 2018 22:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on May 2, 2018 1:21:19 GMT -5
"Hey knucklehead!" Is an acceptable response to someone that gives unwarranted advice. It generally works for me....except with the wife, but that is a different dynamic.
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