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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 8:41:31 GMT -5
Mars Cigars is advertising this for $14.55 a tin:
According to TR notes, this version began production in 1997, was pulled from the U.S. market in 2000 and discontinued altogether in 2004 before Orlik/STG reintroduced its version in 2006.
Definitely worth a look for Escudo and/or VaPer aficionados.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 9:00:12 GMT -5
It’s a good Navy roll but for me needs at least 3 years of aging. If not for some reason I get a tongue bite, even if I let dry out a bit.
Smokingpipes has it for $12.16 per tin, a good price and in stock👌👍
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Post by AJ on Jul 5, 2018 14:43:07 GMT -5
Mars Cigars is advertising this for $14.55 a tin: According to TR notes, this version began production in 1997, was pulled from the U.S. market in 2000 and discontinued altogether in 2004 before Orlik/STG reintroduced its version in 2006. Definitely worth a look for Escudo and/or VaPer aficionados. Ron of RDPipes is a connoisseur of Escudo. You might ask him anything you want to know about this blend. AJ |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 15:01:16 GMT -5
Good news on that, Mark. We all can't keep up with the sites, but collectively we can.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 18:27:33 GMT -5
It’s a good Navy roll but for me needs at least 3 years of aging. If not for some reason I get a tongue bite, even if I let dry out a bit. Smokingpipes has it for $12.16 per tin, a good price and in stock👌👍 I may require an education. Assuming the TR notes are correct, every tin of the A&C Peterson version would have at least 14 years age, perhaps more depending on the source? Those coins should be pretty dark and mighty tasty by now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 18:47:12 GMT -5
It’s a good Navy roll but for me needs at least 3 years of aging. If not for some reason I get a tongue bite, even if I let dry out a bit. Smokingpipes has it for $12.16 per tin, a good price and in stock👌👍 I may require an education. Assuming the TR notes are correct, every tin of the A&C Peterson version would have at least 14 years age, perhaps more depending on the source? Those coins should be pretty dark and mighty tasty by now. The last tin I opened last year I ended up gifting. Very light/bright Tobacco coin, overly moist with no aging. I just checked again...the STG version states it’s “ Scientifically “ matured, maybe they use a time machine???...shrugging my shoulder in wonder! I can’t find where it says aged for 14 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 23:49:26 GMT -5
Like AJ mentioned Escudo is my all time favorite tobacco and Perique blend.
Been smoking it...., well for a very long time and remember when the blending changed but, even then it was and is an outstanding blend
and a benchmark I believe for all Perique blends AKA Vapers but, I am a bit bias. Never got a bite from it though but, some of us are bite pron
to Virginia's and Burleys as I use to be bitten by Burleys and no longer am but, on occasion some Virginians will nip at me.
Although I do find cracking the tin open on Escudo a day before I smoke any helps to let it breath and eliminating the chemical I personally get
from the new blending technique or recipe they use now.
Oh! And I've always found it cheapest at SmokingPipes.com myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 0:37:11 GMT -5
From SP:
Established in 1865 in Horsens, Denmark and finally acquired in 2000 by Orlik, Alfred & Christian Petersen was a family-run company that enjoyed success with blends such as Caledonian Curly Cut, Original Navy Cut, Paul Olsen's "My Own Blend" tobaccos, and, of course, Escudo Navy De Luxe. Escudo, our only entry under the A & C Petersen brand, was not originally blended by the Petersens, nor is it now, but A & C Petersen is the name most associated with the tobacco, so this is where we've left it.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 6, 2018 0:54:54 GMT -5
From SP: Established in 1865 in Horsens, Denmark and finally acquired in 2000 by Orlik, Alfred & Christian Petersen was a family-run company that enjoyed success with blends such as Caledonian Curly Cut, Original Navy Cut, Paul Olsen's "My Own Blend" tobaccos, and, of course, Escudo Navy De Luxe. Escudo, our only entry under the A & C Petersen brand, was not originally blended by the Petersens, nor is it now, but A & C Petersen is the name most associated with the tobacco, so this is where we've left it.I think that clarifies the issue...it certainly makes the confusion understandable. Mars estate tobaccos do not show Escudo as available on that page. www.marscigars.com/estatetobacco.aspx |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 1:00:57 GMT -5
From SP: Established in 1865 in Horsens, Denmark and finally acquired in 2000 by Orlik, Alfred & Christian Petersen was a family-run company that enjoyed success with blends such as Caledonian Curly Cut, Original Navy Cut, Paul Olsen's "My Own Blend" tobaccos, and, of course, Escudo Navy De Luxe. Escudo, our only entry under the A & C Petersen brand, was not originally blended by the Petersens, nor is it now, but A & C Petersen is the name most associated with the tobacco, so this is where we've left it.I think that clarifies the issue...it certainly makes the confusion understandable. Mars estate tobaccos do not show Escudo as available on that page. www.marscigars.com/estatetobacco.aspxMy guess is they are selling modern Escudo, but not paying attention to the change |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 4:33:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 4:37:06 GMT -5
My guess is they are selling modern Escudo, but not paying attention to the change I thought exact same thing so I called. The gentleman I spoke with assured me it was the A&C Peterson version, Whether he actually understood what I was asking is another question? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 4:39:58 GMT -5
Here's the notes from Tobacco Reviews: Notes: Produced by the Cope brothers from 1912 to 1952, at which point they were bought by Gallaher, which produced Escudo until discontinuing it in 1994. A&C Petersen began production in 1997, with the original recipe and presses. Escudo was pulled from US market in 2000 but sold elsewhere. In 2004, production was moved to Orlik/STG and Escudo was reintroduced to the US in 2006.www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/6/scandinavian-tobacco-group-stg-escudo-navy-de-luxeI don't know fellers? I'd trust TR over any other source in this matter. Second, if you look at the tin listed on the Mars' site link above thread, it appears to be one from the A&C Peterson version; consequently, if there's any truth in advertising and the gentleman at Smoking Pipes has his story correct, every tin advertised on both sites should be at least fourteen years old, contain some very dark tasty little coins and be a pretty decent find. Maybe it's too good to be true? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 6:49:51 GMT -5
Here’s a copy of the tin from Smokingpipes. On the tin it states scientifically matured.  |
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Post by Darin on Jul 6, 2018 7:09:33 GMT -5
Here's the older style tin from A&C in 2004:  |
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Post by Darin on Jul 6, 2018 7:13:30 GMT -5
By the way, maturing tobacco scientifically most likely means they used a kiln to ferment or "force age" the tobacco. I'm in the process of building one myself out of an old refrigerator.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 7:14:40 GMT -5
Darin, yup it still states scientifically matured even back then. On your tin does it mention aged 14 years...mine don’t. Thanks👍
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Post by Darin on Jul 6, 2018 7:32:36 GMT -5
Darin, yup it still states scientifically matured even back then. On your tin does it mention aged 14 years...mine don’t. Thanks👍 It says Scientifically Manufactured on the front but no mention of being aged any number of years. Mine was aged 14 years the old fashioned way!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 7:50:20 GMT -5
Thanks Darin👌👍
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 8:47:14 GMT -5
Yup, too good to be true. It was like pulling teeth but I had explicit detailed conversations with both Mars and SP this morning and finally got them both to fess up the Escudo they are peddling is in fact NOT A&C Peterson. It’s just the current version made by STG.
Sorry for the false alarm gang. Nothing to see here folks.
Buyer beware.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 8:53:33 GMT -5
Yup, too good to be true. It was like pulling teeth but I had explicit detailed conversations with both Mars and SP this morning and finally got them both to fess up the Escudo they are peddling is in fact NOT A&C Peterson. It’s just the current version made by STG. Sorry for the false alarm gang. Nothing to see here folks. Buyer beware. FIVE STARS for you for making the effort in calling. It’s been quite a while since Escudo was aged 14 years before hitting the market. My STG was so fresh I could not smoke the stuff, a darn shame! Thanks for your time👍👍👍 |
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jul 6, 2018 9:09:15 GMT -5
...I was gifted several tins of the original Cope Brothers Escudo in 1964...it was for many years the standard I used to judge VA/PER tobaccos...It was a grand tobacco...
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Post by Baboo on Jul 7, 2018 8:06:07 GMT -5
I also inquired of SP, and after a short trip to the moon and back we landed on terra firma. They apparently felt justified in that STG purportedly uses the original formula and therefore were right in carrying forward the name. Had to poke them in the rib for stretching truth in advertising.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 8:18:32 GMT -5
I also inquired of SP, and after a short trip to the moon and back we landed on terra firma. They apparently felt justified in that STG purportedly uses the original formula and therefore were right in carrying forward the name. Had to poke them in the rib for stretching truth in advertising. Just ask Chip from Smokingpipes, he’s a straight shooter and smokes a pipe. He’ll tell you his views on the STG Escudo. It should NOT be sold under the A&C Peterson Label, although if you read the label it does state made by STG. Should be sold within the Lane tin blend selection, just my .2 cents! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 8:31:05 GMT -5
I also inquired of SP, and after a short trip to the moon and back we landed on terra firma. They apparently felt justified in that STG purportedly uses the original formula and therefore were right in carrying forward the name. Had to poke them in the rib for stretching truth in advertising. That was my SP experience as well. Perhaps marginally legal but false advertising in my opinion. Mars Cigars sent an e-mail and informed me they were addressing the issue in advertising. Good on them so maybe something positive happened from the journey. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 8:32:41 GMT -5
I also inquired of SP, and after a short trip to the moon and back we landed on terra firma. They apparently felt justified in that STG purportedly uses the original formula and therefore were right in carrying forward the name. Had to poke them in the rib for stretching truth in advertising. Just ask Chip from Smokingpipes, he’s a straight shooter and smokes a pipe. He’ll tell you his views on the STG Escudo. It should NOT be sold under the A&C Peterson Label, although if you read the label it does state made by STG. Should be sold within the Lane tin blend selection, just my .2 cents! Spot on. +1. |
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Post by peteguy on Jul 7, 2018 10:19:34 GMT -5
I have smoked escudo for years and it has been STG since at least 2010. I know this because I have a tin that I marked 2010 on it when it was purchased. I have also smoked the A&C blend and the Cope blend (although not much of each). I find aging it makes it a much sweeter blend. However, this is one blend that you can over age imo. It will turn flat and lose the Perique.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 7, 2018 10:29:28 GMT -5
I have smoked escudo for years and it has been STG since at least 2010. I know this because I have a tin that I marked 2010 on it when it was purchased. I have also smoked the A&C blend and the Cope blend (although not much of each). I find aging it makes it a much sweeter blend. However, this is one blend that you can over age imo. It will turn flat and lose the Perique. Brian Levine did a show comparing Escudo aged over different years, to his palate, after 7 years the Perique starts fading. |
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Post by peteguy on Jul 7, 2018 10:34:50 GMT -5
I have smoked escudo for years and it has been STG since at least 2010. I know this because I have a tin that I marked 2010 on it when it was purchased. I have also smoked the A&C blend and the Cope blend (although not much of each). I find aging it makes it a much sweeter blend. However, this is one blend that you can over age imo. It will turn flat and lose the Perique. Brian Levine did a show comparing Escudo aged over different years, to his palate, after 7 years the Perique starts fading. I would agree that 7 yrs is the magic number as well. |
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Post by Darin on Jul 7, 2018 10:37:37 GMT -5
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