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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 5, 2018 17:41:31 GMT -5
trailboss mentioned Shane Ireland today (or yesterday) in an anecdote about the opinion that if the bowl is hot, you're smoking too fast. What are your techniques for keeping the pipe lit, but getting the most taste by not having it hot? To me, for the tobacco to burn there has to be energy in the form of heat, and enough of it otherwise the thing will go out. How do YOU get the balance? Do you find it's in the the packing, lighting it properly to begin with or is it in the way you smoke it? What are your thoughts?
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Post by Darin on Aug 5, 2018 17:45:44 GMT -5
The pack, cadence and tamping must align like the planets. It doesn't always happen ... and that's OK! Tamping, especially, can put out a pipe if done too often or with too much force.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 17:49:30 GMT -5
Sometimes it can't be helped. My smokes have been universally hotter than normal this month, especially the finish. Humidity may be the culprit.
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Post by driftingfate on Aug 5, 2018 17:49:47 GMT -5
How? Beats me. I smoke too fast and the bowl gets too hot. How I haven't burned out a pipe probably says more about my luck and number of pips I rotate through than anything else.
I'm just a sucker for a nice plume of smoke and my unrefined taste buds enjoy the larger volume of smoke as well.
When the someone posts the secret, we'll both know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 18:00:33 GMT -5
For me it depends on the tobacco I’m smoking. Some I use the gravity drop method and a light tamp before lighting the tobacco. After a few puffs another light tamp usually helps. Some flake or cube cut blends get a much firmer pack, if you sit back, relax and keep your cadence at a moderate pace, you will not overheat the tobacco or the briar, meer or Cob your smoking!! Every pipe smoker has their own personal preference, try a few methods and see what works for you the best. My methods change depending on what tobacco I’m smoking at the time.
Also, look up the “ Frank “ method of packing and smoking a pipe on YouTube, very informative 👍👍
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Post by zambini on Aug 5, 2018 18:40:36 GMT -5
I do try and every so often improve. With Match Presbyterian it makes a huge difference when you get it 'right'.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 5, 2018 18:44:23 GMT -5
...once you get the tobacco fully lit, puff only when you are afraid it's going to go out...
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 5, 2018 18:49:58 GMT -5
...once you get the tobacco fully lit, puff only when you are afraid it's going to go out... a Lot of times, when I try that, it's like this... *puff (smoke) *Wait *puff (barely anything) Oh crap *puff puff puff puff puff (hot smoke and hot bowl) Dammit
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 5, 2018 18:50:57 GMT -5
...once you get the tobacco fully lit, puff only when you are afraid it's going to go out... a Lot of times, when I try that, it's like this... *puff (smoke) *Wait *puff (barely anything) Oh crap *puff puff puff puff puff (hot smoke and hot bowl) Dammit ...it's a fine line, but you eventually get the rhythm...
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Post by Darin on Aug 5, 2018 18:53:51 GMT -5
Instead of "puff, puff, puff" do a light tamp angled in from the sides while LIGHTLY drawing in continuously. After that, cover the top of the bowl with two fingers and slowly draw in while raising and lowering your fingers (called the Venturi Effect).
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 5, 2018 18:53:55 GMT -5
...this is kind of the crux of pipe-smoking... getting used to being something close to natural breathing... sounds easy, but it takes some practice... IMHO...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:23:08 GMT -5
...once you get the tobacco fully lit, puff only when you are afraid it's going to go out... I puff a bit more then that. At times I’ll take a small puff and gently blow it back thru the shank, draft hole until I see a cloud of smoke just above the chamber. Keeps the pipe well lit and your next puff a bit cooler. At least it works well for me.
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Post by jeffd on Aug 5, 2018 19:53:57 GMT -5
Well the truth is, I really don't care how many times I have to relight.
I have figured out ways with specific tobaccos in specific pipes smoking a specific way, tamping and puffing rhythm, to go more than 40 minutes without a relight. It has taught me a lot.
But for my normal smoke, I puff and tamp at a rate to keep the bowl from getting to hot to hold, and that's it. And if I have to relight I relight.
I can't see anyone telling me I am "doing it wrong", and if they do I am a big boy, I know how to handle it. (I have been doing so many things wrong my whole life I have a lot of practice.)
So what, really, is the issue. Tamp, light, puff, puff, tamp, light, puff, puff, tamplightpuffpufftamplightpuffpuff...
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Post by Matthew on Aug 5, 2018 21:16:56 GMT -5
For me it's been learning how to tamp effectively. As Dramatwist and @darin have said (kind of) don't try to keep the pipe lit by puffing,instead using just the weight of the tamper,drop it in to work the edges of the chamber.I never tamp in the center.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 5, 2018 21:39:24 GMT -5
For me it's been learning how to tamp effectively. As Dramatwist and @darin have said (kind of) don't try to keep the pipe lit by puffing,instead using just the weight of the tamper,drop it in to work the edges of the chamber.I never tamp in the center. ...yes, tamping is key... but I wasn't sure if that was too much information under the circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 21:45:46 GMT -5
I make my own willow twig tampers with about a 30 degree angle for maintaining a dome on tobacco. Really helps. I really prefer them to any straight tamper. My next antler tamper with a copper tip will be angled as well. I used to make them flat.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 5, 2018 22:00:14 GMT -5
Good advice given by all.
Not all pipes perform in the same way, and not all tobacco's burn at the same rate...as with anything, as you try to employ some of the methods posted above, you will eventually get positive results.
I have a few pipes that I can be smoking, set the pipe down and expect it to have gone out, only to find that a light puff wakes up the slow burning coals...I think that is the result of a properly engineered pipe, and I think that the wide open draw allows it to perform that way. I am thinking that in a filtered pipe, that probably wouldn't happen.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 6, 2018 2:00:26 GMT -5
Interesting take on the angle of the tamp. That was missing from the instruction manual that came with my Czech tool... Hang on a second, did I even get an instruction manual?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 2:18:23 GMT -5
When I tamp I just don’t do the center, it’s best too also tamp around the diameter of the chamber...works well for me👍
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 6, 2018 2:22:46 GMT -5
When I tamp I just don’t do the center, it’s best too also tamp around the diameter of the chamber...works well for me👍 ...more important than tamping the center, IMHO...
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Post by slowroll on Aug 6, 2018 10:17:25 GMT -5
Sometimes I have a transcendent smoke, and sometimes not, but they're all acceptable. I usually just light it and puff as I happen to feel like. I know, philistine.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 6, 2018 10:20:03 GMT -5
...once you get the tobacco fully lit, puff only when you are afraid it's going to go out... I puff a bit more then that. At times I’ll take a small puff and gently blow it back thru the shank, draft hole until I see a cloud of smoke just above the chamber. Keeps the pipe well lit and your next puff a bit cooler. At least it works well for me. I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted!
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Post by 5star on Aug 6, 2018 10:36:00 GMT -5
It’s definitely a ‘go by feel’ thing for me. So many factors influence the quality of the smoke. Even my state of mind has its influence. Some mornings, if I have a lot to do later that day and am thinking about getting it all done, I can smoke a bowl too fast & with too much vigor. If I set the pipe down to do some chore, and then come back to it later- I often pick up nicer flavors from the cooler bowl.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 6, 2018 11:13:59 GMT -5
I puff a bit more then that. At times I’ll take a small puff and gently blow it back thru the shank, draft hole until I see a cloud of smoke just above the chamber. Keeps the pipe well lit and your next puff a bit cooler. At least it works well for me. I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted! I've tried that but my breath is too wet. Not a good result in the end.
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Post by PipeSteader on Aug 6, 2018 11:14:04 GMT -5
I have a fast Cadence and I am not a fan of relighting. So I probably puff faster than I should just to keep the ember burning hot. I have found that flake cut tobacco is very good at staying lit and I smoke flake for my longer pipe sittings. Ribbon cut I find to be the worst at keeping lit myself. Always having to relight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 11:55:21 GMT -5
I puff a bit more then that. At times I’ll take a small puff and gently blow it back thru the shank, draft hole until I see a cloud of smoke just above the chamber. Keeps the pipe well lit and your next puff a bit cooler. At least it works well for me. I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted! Jack, with patience it works every time without blowing ashes all over your good clothes. Keeps the pipe lit and burns much cooler with one or even no re-lights. Glad you got the hang of it fast👍👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 11:59:02 GMT -5
I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted! I've tried that but my breath is too wet. Not a good result in the end. Patty, sounds like you have a drooling issue. What causes you to create so much saliva while smoking a pipe?Wonder if that’s why you have throat issues?
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 6, 2018 12:39:48 GMT -5
I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted! I've tried that but my breath is too wet. Not a good result in the end. ...some folks can get away with it... not me...
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 6, 2018 12:56:31 GMT -5
I puff a bit more then that. At times I’ll take a small puff and gently blow it back thru the shank, draft hole until I see a cloud of smoke just above the chamber. Keeps the pipe well lit and your next puff a bit cooler. At least it works well for me. I just tried this and I'll be damned it most certainly works! Thanks Ted! I just completed another bowl of "Squadron Leader" applying this technique and managed to keep the bowl lit to the very end, the bowl stayed cool and I didn't have to puff like a wild man.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 6, 2018 13:07:17 GMT -5
I've tried that but my breath is too wet. Not a good result in the end. Patty, sounds like you have a drooling issue. What causes you to create so much saliva while smoking a pipe? Tasty tobacco?
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