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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 7:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 10, 2018 7:30:40 GMT -5
I'm far from an expert but the silver ring does not appear to be a original component and at 9:00 in picture 6 of the stem and shank there appears to be issues I can't really see but it looks like a split to me
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Post by sparks on Aug 10, 2018 7:34:29 GMT -5
I'm going to actually say that it's a repair band, based on the issue with the shank. The stem also appears to be a replacement to my eye, though it could have simply been turned down a bit to accommodate the tighter mortise after the band was put on.
That being said, it looks like a great pipe and in my experience a repair band actually makes the pipe stronger.
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Post by papipeguy on Aug 10, 2018 7:40:31 GMT -5
There appear to be hallmarks on the band so if it was a repair it's a good one if it's really silver. Most often the bands used in repairs are nickel. For the money I'd take the chance.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 10, 2018 7:46:13 GMT -5
I would agree for the money take the chance
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 10, 2018 7:56:41 GMT -5
There appear to be hallmarks on the band so if it was a repair it's a good one if it's really silver. Most often the bands used in repairs are nickel. For the money I'd take the chance.I also agree...if the price doesn't shoot up too much, it would be worth a punt...that said, there's already a bid on it (although maybe that's you) and there are 6 days left. On the other hand, if you set your maximum bid and walk away and don't win then you can always tell yourself you dodged a bullet. Win/win. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 8:18:02 GMT -5
thanks, guys! i've been watching a few Estellas and they seem to be going right at about $40 on ebay (bidding-wise) I'll keep and eye on it. I haven't bid on it yet, I like to snipe  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 9:10:53 GMT -5
Interesting for sure. As John noted, I see what appears to be hallmarks in the last picture; however, the resolution isn't very sharp and the pic goes to pieces when I blow it up.
Second, as I think Jack and Justin are observing, there also appears to be an issue with the shank at approximately 9:00 but I can't really tell as the pic isn't as clear when magnified.
I have a Savinelli Canadian Silver Series which is silver banded and contains the Sav shield which I've always assumed is a trade mark the same as the crouched fox, shamrock and windmill on pre-1964 Peterson pipes. If that's a Sav shield trademark on the band, it's probably not a replacement.
If that's not the case, the hallmarks could be the calling card of the band maker in which case I would guess the shank is cracked, the band is a replacement and the stem is likewise. I can't see the Sav shield on the stem so I agree with Justin it's probably a replacement even if the band isn't. Good looking work whoever did it.
None of these issues would stop me from purchasing this pipe below $40. It might even pass a cleaner all the way through as well? There's no buy it now option and you have six days to ask questions.
Good luck Maggie
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 10, 2018 9:53:09 GMT -5
That's a good point, @10furlongs... you can ask about it and even request a few better pictures.
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Post by peteguy on Aug 10, 2018 10:59:51 GMT -5
Those marks on the band look to me like the silver plating marks that are run of the mill repair bands. Sorry to be the Dabney Downer. I agree that the stem is a replacement. Send me a message if you want a little bit more info M.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 10, 2018 12:07:48 GMT -5
Even if it's a repair band and replacement stem, I bet it's a great smoker, or they wouldn't have spent more than the pipe is worth on it. I would say that as long as it's reasonably priced you can't go wrong.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 10, 2018 12:30:16 GMT -5
...neither here nor there, but I usually don't bid/buy anything on eBay unless the seller has a 100% rating... this one's a 99.3%... just my 2 cents...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 12:58:57 GMT -5
Lady M, the repair band was done professionally and the stem may not be original but looks like a great fit. If you can get that pipe for under $30.00 delivered, I think you’ll be more than pleased👍👍. Pull the trigger with 5 seconds left with the maximum you’d want to pay for this pipe! Any major issues your backed by eBay...,remember that!!!
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 13:30:35 GMT -5
thanks, fellas! very good points  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 10, 2018 13:35:00 GMT -5
Shall I remind myself to come back in 6 days and see what you did, Lady Margaret? |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 13:40:23 GMT -5
Shall I remind myself to come back in 6 days and see what you did, Lady Margaret ? lol, no need. if i acquire it i shall certainly let it be known  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 10, 2018 13:59:42 GMT -5
Looks like a great pipe. If you get it, I think you will be more than pleased.
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Post by joeman on Aug 10, 2018 15:14:56 GMT -5
You likely don't need any more input, but here it is anyway. And I hope mine doesn't seem like rain on parade day. The "jiv" repair band is definitely not original, that we know. This image appears to demonstrate a "so-so" fit...it's a bit uneven, and when done properly, the very edge of the metal should not be lipped-over like this...it completely eliminates the stem from sitting flush against the shank.   The replacement stem also appears to not be flush all the way around, as evidenced here. Could be partly due to the ill-fitting repair band, and might just not be cut properly to be flush to begin with.  I am not suggesting that you don't buy it, especially at a decent price. But these things would bother me about the pipe. And yes, I admit I'm pretty picky! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 15:17:58 GMT -5
Do you love it more than the 60$ bid I am getting ready to place on it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 15:28:28 GMT -5
When I have had a pipe with issues, I think about it every time I smoke it. If you can't steal it, I would pass.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 15:30:04 GMT -5
No worries about me. I have 11.28$ until payday
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 15:43:02 GMT -5
You likely don't need any more input, but here it is anyway. And I hope mine doesn't seem like rain on parade day. The "jiv" repair band is definitely not original, that we know. This image appears to demonstrate a "so-so" fit...it's a bit uneven, and when done properly, the very edge of the metal should not be lipped-over like this...it completely eliminates the stem from sitting flush against the shank. The replacement stem also appears to not be flush all the way around, as evidenced here. Could be partly due to the ill-fitting repair band, and might just not be cut properly to be flush to begin with. I am not suggesting that you don't buy it, especially at a decent price. But these things would bother me about the pipe. And yes, I admit I'm pretty picky! Good thing you were here to handle this. Expect a raise in your next check. |
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Post by herbinedave on Aug 10, 2018 15:44:50 GMT -5
My advice is buy the best you can afford.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 15:49:13 GMT -5
You likely don't need any more input, but here it is anyway. And I hope mine doesn't seem like rain on parade day. The "jiv" repair band is definitely not original, that we know. This image appears to demonstrate a "so-so" fit...it's a bit uneven, and when done properly, the very edge of the metal should not be lipped-over like this...it completely eliminates the stem from sitting flush against the shank. The replacement stem also appears to not be flush all the way around, as evidenced here. Could be partly due to the ill-fitting repair band, and might just not be cut properly to be flush to begin with. I am not suggesting that you don't buy it, especially at a decent price. But these things would bother me about the pipe. And yes, I admit I'm pretty picky! thanks for pointing this out. it has concerned me that in the description nothing is said about a repair, and it is obvious that there has been work done on the pipe. i guess I will pass on it. that's okay, i've got a week until the Columbus show and I don't need to be trolling ebay right now anyway, lol |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 15:49:55 GMT -5
Do you love it more than the 60$ bid I am getting ready to place on it?  definitely not! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 15:50:21 GMT -5
You likely don't need any more input, but here it is anyway. And I hope mine doesn't seem like rain on parade day. The "jiv" repair band is definitely not original, that we know. This image appears to demonstrate a "so-so" fit...it's a bit uneven, and when done properly, the very edge of the metal should not be lipped-over like this...it completely eliminates the stem from sitting flush against the shank. The replacement stem also appears to not be flush all the way around, as evidenced here. Could be partly due to the ill-fitting repair band, and might just not be cut properly to be flush to begin with. I am not suggesting that you don't buy it, especially at a decent price. But these things would bother me about the pipe. And yes, I admit I'm pretty picky! Real good eye from a pro👍👍👍 |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 10, 2018 17:44:19 GMT -5
Well spotted there, joeman. Good to have someone like you onboard with your eagle-eye. There will be plenty of others Lady Margaret. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 10, 2018 21:32:59 GMT -5
Well spotted there, joeman . Good to have someone like you onboard with your eagle-eye. There will be plenty of others Lady Margaret . yes, indeed. i will most likely find a treasure at the pipe show. |
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Post by herbinedave on Aug 10, 2018 22:02:47 GMT -5
Buying pipes from eBay is a crapshoot. Sometimes you get the Bull, other times you get the horns. Again buy what you can afford.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 10, 2018 22:40:54 GMT -5
Buying pipes from eBay is a crapshoot. Sometimes you get the Bull, other times you get the horns. Again buy what you can afford. ...wise advice, Mr. Dave... |
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definitely not!