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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 7:49:38 GMT -5
So I did my research and bought a corn cob bent from my local tobacco depot as well as some vanilla blend to try. I did not get a tamper nor did I get a pipe lighter on my first voyage, so I have attempted three bowls so far and have had 1-3 bowls stay lit for longer than 2 or 3 mins. I have tried to use a nail head to tamper down the tobacco but I may think I am still not getting the tobacco packed well enough. Any secrets for a first timer ? I am using a xicar lighter to light. What am I doing wrong here ? Any basics I should be doing I am a 30 yr old married with a kid an another on the way so money is tight so I didn’t want to spend a lot right at the beginning, is the pipe not constructed well or cheap tobacco ? Thanks in advance
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 8:04:20 GMT -5
If the corn cob pipe is Missouri Meerschaum the it is a great pipe and one that will last you years.
I use a nail to tamp at times too. That's not the issue, but tamp gently. If you think of how to put out a fire, you can stamp on it and it will go out - tamping too hard will put the fire out.
There are loads of Youtube Videos online about packing a pipe. One thing I've found that has helped me a lot is to cut the tobacco into smaller pieces and just drop it into the bowl. It will pack more uniformly. Just let gravity do it's job. It might be a quicker smoke, but it should stay lit longer.
Also, for me what also works well is to light well. So on the first light I would move the flame around the tobacco until the majority of the tobacco has charred. Then I would gently place the tamper on the charred tobacco and move it in a circular motion so that the top of the tobacco looks black and a bit ashy. THEN I relight but what I did in the beginning was that as soon as the flame hit the tobacco, there was smoke, so I stopped with the flame. Keep the flame on the tobacco for a while longer (a couple more puffs). I find that after about 5-6 puffs on the relight, when I take the flame away there's a wee flame coming from the bowl itself. At that point there is enough energy on the tobacco to keep the thing lit for longer than a few minutes.
I hope this helps. Others will also add to this, but remember - what works for you is what works. Do that. There's no right or wrong here.
Also, check out the Franke method of packing...
And check out this method...
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Post by antb on Aug 22, 2018 8:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by briarpipenyc on Aug 22, 2018 8:27:34 GMT -5
So, you got yourself some Vanilla tobacco...(probably, an "aromatic"). This might be the problem. Maybe the tobacco is just simply, too moist. Try drying out your tobacco for a few hours before loading it into the pipe, and see if that helps. Overly moist tobacco burns hot and steamy, and has the tendency to go out without a lot of puffing.
Try starting with drier tobacco, and see if that helps you keep your pipe lit. Puffing cadence needs to be learned, and matched to selected tobacco used your pipe. Wet tobacco rarely stays lit, and your efforts to keep it lit will reward you with a burnt tongue, and nasty juices in your mouth. I learned the hard way, and now, dry ALL my tobacco, and it works. Correct puffing, packing, and tamping techniques won't help if tobacco is too moist.
Frank
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Post by Matthew on Aug 22, 2018 8:32:28 GMT -5
Some great advice already given,I would add to dry your tobacco
some.Depending on the blend and your climate.Moist tobacco wont
always burn well and over dry can burn fast,experiment.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 8:52:17 GMT -5
I’ve got some drying out right now will try it out later , I’ve got the day off of work so my two year old has me watching Nickelodeon and wants to play baseball outside. I will try out the frank method in a few
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 9:05:52 GMT -5
Definitely sounds like your tobacco is to moist, air dry enough for a bowl full, after 45 minutes or so try a gravity fill and give a light tamp before lighting up, once lit tamp again....you should be good to go. If you don’t know an experienced pipe smoker that can teach you, the videos Legend Lover posted will surely help. Enjoy the Art of pipe smoking, any questions just ask👍
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 9:13:57 GMT -5
Some here dry their tobacco by putting it in the microwave for 10s. I tried it last time I had wet tobacco and it worked a treat.
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Post by arturo7 on Aug 22, 2018 10:13:57 GMT -5
a) How often are you puffing?
b) Relights are not a big deal.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 10:16:17 GMT -5
a) How often are you puffing? b) Relights are not a big deal. I read it should be 10-30 seconds I’m used to cigar smoking so it must be a different puff. Still have to adjust to the difference, could I be puffing to often? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:20:03 GMT -5
a) How often are you puffing? b) Relights are not a big deal. I read it should be 10-30 seconds I’m used to cigar smoking so it must be a different puff. Still have to adjust to the difference, could I be puffing to often? If you puff often your pipe would stay lit. You might not be puffing often enough, depending on the tobacco your smoking and the moisture level. Are you also trying non-aromatic blends? |
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Post by haebar on Aug 22, 2018 10:33:12 GMT -5
The problem might be your tobacco. You might want to try some non-aromatic tobacco. Pick up a pouch of Carter Hall to try, if you can find some.
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Post by Robert Perkins on Aug 22, 2018 10:35:41 GMT -5
I read it should be 10-30 seconds I’m used to cigar smoking so it must be a different puff. Still have to adjust to the difference, could I be puffing to often? If you puff often your pipe would stay lit. You might not be puffing often enough, depending on the tobacco your smoking and the moisture level. Are you also trying non-aromatic blends? Yeah, when I first started out, I used to count, "One-thousand-one, one-thousand-two, one-thousand-three, one thousand-four, one-thousand-five, puff..." Five seconds between puffs. It might seem like a bother, but pretty soon, you'll get the rhythm and you won't have to time it out anymore. |
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 10:56:19 GMT -5
I read it should be 10-30 seconds I’m used to cigar smoking so it must be a different puff. Still have to adjust to the difference, could I be puffing to often? If you puff often your pipe would stay lit. You might not be puffing often enough, depending on the tobacco your smoking and the moisture level. Are you also trying non-aromatic blends? Until next pay day all I have is the aromatic , will order some or buy from my local shop next week. Will be smoking in an hour or two need to get my son to take a nap. 😄 |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 10:59:28 GMT -5
If you puff often your pipe would stay lit. You might not be puffing often enough, depending on the tobacco your smoking and the moisture level. Are you also trying non-aromatic blends? Until next pay day all I have is the aromatic , will order some or buy from my local shop next week. Will be smoking in an hour or two need to get my son to take a nap. 😄 let us know how it goes. |
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Post by radioguy on Aug 22, 2018 11:30:42 GMT -5
You are probably packing the tobacco too tight. Most new smokers have this problem. See youtube videos on how to pack a pipe for help. Suggest videos by nwpipesmoker or padre piper. Alsoyour tobacco may be too moist. Try letting a bowl sized amount dry for a couple of hours. Dont worry you’ll get it. Try Capt Black in the white pouch...the original. Should smoke fine.
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Post by zver on Aug 22, 2018 11:31:58 GMT -5
So I did my research and bought a corn cob bent from my local tobacco depot as well as some vanilla blend to try. I did not get a tamper nor did I get a pipe lighter on my first voyage, so I have attempted three bowls so far and have had 1-3 bowls stay lit for longer than 2 or 3 mins. I have tried to use a nail head to tamper down the tobacco but I may think I am still not getting the tobacco packed well enough. Any secrets for a first timer ? I am using a xicar lighter to light. What am I doing wrong here ? Any basics I should be doing I am a 30 yr old married with a kid an another on the way so money is tight so I didn’t want to spend a lot right at the beginning, is the pipe not constructed well or cheap tobacco ? Thanks in advance The lighter you are using is it a cigar torch? If so, go with a cheap bic or matches. Soft flame is the way to avoid damaging the pipe. For me getting the feel for how to pack my pipe, and how much time between puffs all came with trial and error. Even watching the videos and reading the forums you have to know what they are talking about, so a bit of experimentation is always a good thing. There is no correct way to do it. What ever gets the tobacco lit and the flavor flowing is correct. Best advice is to remember this is about slowing down and relaxing. You goal is to relax and enjoy yourself. If what you are doing is getting the job done then you are doing it right. Z |
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Post by McWiggins on Aug 22, 2018 11:33:39 GMT -5
My words aren't very helpful but its very true, pipe smoking is an art. Collect information, give things a try and find what works for you. In time, you will develop your own method and ways of doing it and to a new pipe smoker in the future, you will make the art and skill of it look so very simple. Don't give up!  |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Aug 22, 2018 14:56:18 GMT -5
I JUST NOW tried the Frank method for the heck of it. I've heard it mentioned a lot, but never got around to trying it. I usually do the 1-2-3 method. I have to say, it works very well. It might be my new go-to, if I find it's that consistent. No relights here after 1/2 a bowl.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 15:14:11 GMT -5
I JUST NOW tried the Frank method for the heck of it. I've heard it mentioned a lot, but never got around to trying it. I usually do the 1-2-3 method. I have to say, it works very well. It might be my new go-to, if I find it's that consistent. No relights here after 1/2 a bowl. Wayhey - good job. It works well. I keep forgetting about it, to be honest. |
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 15:19:04 GMT -5
Update; dried out for two hours, made an attempt at the frank method and so far so good 😊. Wife’s home so I’m relaxing on my patio..
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 22, 2018 15:22:26 GMT -5
Update; dried out for two hours, made an attempt at the frank method and so far so good 😊. Wife’s home so I’m relaxing on my patio.. Woohoo! I really have no packing method, it's just whatever feels right. Drying, on the other hand, I prefer mine right before it turns crunchy. It makes all the difference in the world when it comes to staying lit. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 15:25:26 GMT -5
Update; dried out for two hours, made an attempt at the frank method and so far so good 😊. Wife’s home so I’m relaxing on my patio.. Great news. I'm glad you've made progress. |
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Post by peteguy on Aug 22, 2018 15:58:11 GMT -5
Careful when tamping as well. A perfectly good smoke can be ruined by tamping. Over tamping = tight pack.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 15:58:17 GMT -5
 Trying photo upload will see if it works |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 16:15:17 GMT -5
Trying photo upload will see if it works it works and looks like a great corn cob pipe. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Aug 22, 2018 16:35:55 GMT -5
Trying photo upload will see if it works If I'm not mistaken, a bent Washington 5th Ave. One of my favorites. It's always my lawn mowing pipe with some Sutliff Aromatic English in it. |
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Aug 22, 2018 16:45:22 GMT -5
Trying photo upload will see if it works If I'm not mistaken, a bent Washington 5th Ave. One of my favorites. It's always my lawn mowing pipe with some Sutliff Aromatic English in it. No clue on model , did research found out I was smoking sutliff vanilla aromatic. Wife does not mind the smell , says it smells better than cigars. That’s why when I spend more money she won’t be to upset. 👑 |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2018 16:49:11 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, a bent Washington 5th Ave. One of my favorites. It's always my lawn mowing pipe with some Sutliff Aromatic English in it. No clue on model , did research found out I was smoking sutliff vanilla aromatic. Wife does not mind the smell , says it smells better than cigars. That’s why when I spend more money she won’t be to upset. 👑 Pipe tobacco is cheaper than cigars (at least it is in the UK). Your problem might be the quantities you buy. But never worry, we're here to walk you through it. |
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Post by McWiggins on Aug 22, 2018 16:56:05 GMT -5
No clue on model , did research found out I was smoking sutliff vanilla aromatic. Wife does not mind the smell , says it smells better than cigars. That’s why when I spend more money she won’t be to upset. 👑 Pipe tobacco is cheaper than cigars (at least it is in the UK). Your problem might be the quantities you buy. But never worry, we're here to walk you through it. Yeah! Less than six months in and I'm sitting on eight cases of pint mason jars full with a big order that just came in yesterday that will need two more cases to pack it away. Beware! lol |
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