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Post by loammi on Aug 25, 2018 17:21:52 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on morta pipes? How do they smoke? How durable are they? Any particular pipe carvers that are known for producing nice pipes with this material? I've looked at a few but I was curious to hear from those on the forums that have experience with them.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 17:32:32 GMT -5
I own 5 Morta pipes, three I smoke often, the other two are out of my rotation for the time being. I find they smoke exceptionally well, they can get hot but cool down pretty darn fast. If you choose to smoke the same Morta pipe 10 times in one day you’ll have no issue!! All of mine built up an even cake evenly. I’ve read a few threads where some pipe smokers had an odd odor when smoking but went away after roughly a dozen or so uses. Find yourself an inexpensive Morta pipe and take it from there.....good luck 👍👍
PS Look up Don Warren....he’s an excellent maker/carver and makes many Morta Pipes. I own a custom Morta Poker Pipe that smokes superbly and well crafted and two of his custom made Morta bowls for my Kirsten pipe.....VERY SATISFIED !!!
A few members of this forum own Don Warren Pipes....very reasonably priced👍
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Post by loammi on Aug 25, 2018 19:24:18 GMT -5
Thanks lonecoyote, ill check out Don's work.
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 25, 2018 19:45:15 GMT -5
I have quite a few, I wrote a series of writings on smoking some 10 y/o Stonehaven in each every day that was around the same humidity, breeze etc. if folks are interested I can see if I can dig that up and post it here. There’s a lot to be said about Morta but I’ll leave that for when I can do justice to the post, regards. banjo
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 19:54:09 GMT -5
I have 2, a Don Warren and a Paolo Becker. I can't say enough good about them.
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Post by herbinedave on Aug 25, 2018 19:55:17 GMT -5
I have an eskimo and an author carved by Ryan Alden. I like and enjoy both.
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Post by loammi on Aug 25, 2018 20:33:24 GMT -5
I have quite a few, I wrote a series of writings on smoking some 10 y/o Stonehaven in each every day that was around the same humidity, breeze etc. if folks are interested I can see if I can dig that up and post it here. There’s a lot to be said about Morta but I’ll leave that for when I can do justice to the post, regards. banjo I'd be interested in reading what you wrote.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Aug 25, 2018 20:43:57 GMT -5
… I have 5 Morta pipes...all excellent smokers...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 21:38:55 GMT -5
I have quite a few, I wrote a series of writings on smoking some 10 y/o Stonehaven in each every day that was around the same humidity, breeze etc. if folks are interested I can see if I can dig that up and post it here. There’s a lot to be said about Morta but I’ll leave that for when I can do justice to the post, regards. banjo Banjo, I would definitely enjoy reading the article if it’s not to much trouble to locate. Thanks much, Ted
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Post by driftingfate on Aug 25, 2018 22:06:36 GMT -5
Great topic, one of my (few) unsmoked pipes is a Warren morta... waiting for the weather to cool off to appreciated it in comfort.
All the reviews have been great, as was the word of an AZ Pipe Club member.... doubt a person could go wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 22:42:59 GMT -5
Great topic, one of my (few) unsmoked pipes is a Warren morta... waiting for the weather to cool off to appreciated it in comfort. All the reviews have been great, as was the word of an AZ Pipe Club member.... doubt a person could go wrong. Don is a true craftsman, all around nice guy! Great communication, a pleasure to talk to as well. His pipes are very reasonably priced. You’ll really enjoy the Morta he made for you👌👍
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 26, 2018 6:59:13 GMT -5
I have quite a few, I wrote a series of writings on smoking some 10 y/o Stonehaven in each every day that was around the same humidity, breeze etc. if folks are interested I can see if I can dig that up and post it here. There’s a lot to be said about Morta but I’ll leave that for when I can do justice to the post, regards. banjo I think if you would share that it would benefit many people.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 26, 2018 7:32:42 GMT -5
I have several, Paulo Becker, Don Johnson, first smokes, kind of woodsy smell came from pipe, then it went away, Don sent me a graph showing my morta was over 5,000 yrs old. Mine would get a little hot if you pushed it, but not uncomfortable hot. Here’s a tip from a man who’s touched and run machinery most of his life, forget the putting pipe on cheek shite, if you can hold pipe and count to 5 it’s under 150 degs this is from touching pump bearing housings for over 30 yrs. Clean them, you don’t need coke in a Morta, after all it’s fossilized wood. They are very light, therefore bigger pipes clench easier. My understanding from carvers they are a bitch to machine, I like mine and I’ll bet you all will like yours. Please make this correction from American crap sayin to shite correction, I don’t talk like that, being Cajun I know I talk funny, but damn I don’t say shite.,!
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 10:46:47 GMT -5
When this piece first appeared I had just 7 Morta pipes and have added considerably more since all very unique as one would expect from me. The Seven Morta Smoke off. Since I own seven Morta Pipes I thought it would be a good idea to discuss a bit about what Morta is, how it differs to briar, both as a base for a pipe and smoking wise. So what exactly is Morta? Morta, or Bog Oak. comes from dead Oak trees which have fallen into a bog, or similar environment, and have spent anywhere from 1000-10,000 years in the soup of the bog which gives the Morta its distinct coloration. The colors recognized are from blue grey over green grey to deep black, there are also brown and copper colored and a combination of grey, brown and black, very few are red or blue which I have not seen a pipe made with as yet but there probably will be at some point. Bog Oak stands for Fossil European Oak or Sessile Oak, which have lain in bog for centuries. Stored in bog, the tannic acid of the wood reacts with the marsh gases of the bog, whereby such wood changes its color extremely. Understand the closer it becomes to fossilization the blacker it gets as it will turn to coal if given enough time to fossilize. What I have learned through reading is that Bog Oak is available throughout Europe with Croatia, Ireland, England, Germany and Italy being the major sources, I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I see most of the Morta pipe makers make reference to. Recently Morta from Lake Michigan has surfaced and while not being a bog the conditions are similar in what happens to the wood and will be interesting to see if any more pipes are made from it then the one I saw that sold quickly, it was darker than the copper Morta yet lighter than the brown Morta I have seen. So how does Morta differ from briar, Meerschaum, clay, corn cobs and even rock pipes? Well simply put Morta like Meerschaum, clay and rock pipes (pipe stone or soapstone) smoke neutral, i.e. one gets a purer sense on the palate, and the snork, of the tobacco than one gets from a briar or a cob. Morta can smoke much hotter than the others as well but setting it down finds it cools much quicker as well. It's light and generally the pipes made from it are much larger than their briar counterparts and the bowls much smaller as well since they do smoke hotter but have the ability to be smoked again as soon as they are cool enough with no issue so they make a great companion if one were traveling and could only bring 1 or 2 pipes. Now that we've gone through a bit of the history of Morta and how it differentiates between some of the more common vessels used for pipe bowls let's see how different Morta pipes smoke against the others in my collection. For the purpose of the Smoke Off I did not smoke anything other than Anniversary Kake or a light VA in other pipes over the two days it took to complete this and I did it with the outside temperature being relatively equal except for the first smoke which ended up being a rather windy period. The seven pipes I smoked were smoked using 6 y/o Anniversary Kake from the same jar housed in the same pouch so as to not taint the outcome: A Chris Askwith Rhodesian, from England, with Olivewood Cap and white stem was the first pipe smoked and here is a photo and the results. The smoke in the Askwith Rhodesian took 45 minutes with mostly white pillow like puffs the first 1/2 of the bowl with a nice mild and cool smoking experience. From the second half of the bowl on there was decidedly more spiciness to the smoke yet still cool and the smoke thinned a bit to a blueish grey with the admittance of Perique was there in the background. The smoke ended w/o the need to relight simply the char light was sufficient and a mere few shards of moist dottle and moisture were found after it had gone out. Clearing the dottle with a pick was quick and what moisture that was observed in the bottom of the bowl dissipated within 30 seconds, an excellent smoke and a quick run through with the pipe cleaner produced a very light tan coating with no moisture. A Davorin Denovic, from Croatia, Rustic Freehand Bent with Field Maple end cap. The Denovic finished its smoke in 40 minutes with mostly medium billows of blueish grey smoke throughout the entire bowl, like the previous smoker it needed no further lighting after the initial one. The first 1/3 was a lovely taste of VA and migrated toward some spiciness into the next 1/3 with a dominant taste of Perique which lasted about 5 minutes into the last 1/3 then settled down into a lovely combination of spice and great tobacco flavors. The finish was met with clean grey ash and minimal moisture in the bowl which dissipated in 15 seconds. A pipe cleaner ran through came out a medium brown with no moisture. A Moretti Freehand Rusticated, from Italy, with Bone colored end cap. The Moretti smoked in 40 minutes with large billowy puffs of whitish grey smoke throughout and required only the initial lighting. The first 1/3 of the bowl was soft and luscious VA then notes of cinnamon crept in with the palate experience being like a wonderfully deep red burgundy and the snork sense continuing to cinnamon and developing to toasted nutmeg. Spiciness abundant in the next 1/3 with a deeper palate of dark red burgundy continuing through the second 1/3 of the bowl. The final 1/3 of the bowl was a dance of flavors from the spice to the wine then mellowing to just a delicious tobacco ending with a whitish grey ash with no dottle nor moisture in the bowl, a swipe with the pipe cleaner revealed a deeper tan color with no moisture. A Tom Richard, from Germany, Rusticated Freehand with Boxwood end cap and Cumberland Stem. The Richard smoked in 43 minutes with a light blue hue to white billows of smoke also required no lighting after initial. The taste of VA was predominate with the warmth of honey on the palate, the snork was true VA. It wasn't until the last 1/4 of the bowl did any hint of spice begin and it did not strengthen but continued to the end of the bowl which was left with no dottle just a clean whitish grey ash. Once the ash was removed there was nothing there but the bottom of the bowl and it was free of moisture, a quick run with a pipe cleaner gave a tan color and no moisture. A Chris Askwith, I believe a Freehand Volcano Sitter but hopeful Chris will set that straight if he reads this, from England, with Mastodon Ivory end cap and White Stem. The second Askwith smoked in 38 minutes with a light grey medium smoke, again no lighting beyond initial. The taste of VA was present and turned to a note of Fig on the palate with cinnamon in snork, eased its way into spicy which it finished with leaving a white grey ash, no dottle nor moisture evident in the bowl, the color of the pipe cleaner inserted and removed was light tan with no moisture A Paulo Becker Maya Shape, from Italy, as Paulo puts it the name comes from "Maya desnuda" by Goya, with Chocolate colored stem and Smoky swirls. The Becker smoked in 40 minutes with a medium grey smoke throughout with no lighting past the initial. The taste of VA was present after the first tamp and through to the middle of the bowl where some hints of cinnamon and other spices began then leveled off to spice on the palate and the snork and finishing with no dottle nor moisture in the bowl, a pipe cleaner ran through left residuals of dark and tan but no moisture A Radice Chubby Morta AEROBilliard, from Italy, in collaboration with Luca di Piazza. The AEROBilliard smoked in 35 minutes with no lighting beyond the initial, with huge pillows of whitish grey smoke until the first tamp where it settled down to medium grey puffs. The initial note was cool and mild and the VA made its presence known on the palate and the snork. The palate note quickly changed to a rich red burgundy feel and the snork picked up hints of Cardamom and other spiciness. The wine note stayed the course on the palate with playful meanderings of VA, spice and pure tobacco on the snork with the final few minutes being wine, wine and more wine on the palate and the snork. There was no dottle nor moisture and a pipe cleaner picked up the lightest trace of coloring with no moisture Well as you can see my experience differed some from pipe to pipe but not one of them was less than an outstanding smoke. I hope you found this helpful if a Morta pipe is something you've been thinking about and will happily answer any questions that I can, thanks for reading. banjo if there is interest I can add the updated articles on the Morta pipes I added, cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 10:58:00 GMT -5
Banjo, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to post your stunning Morta Pipes and the article 👍. Hope you have a wonderful Sunday enjoying your favorite pipes and tobacco’s. Be well young man
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 26, 2018 11:19:23 GMT -5
bambooshank, thank you so much for that. There's a wealth of information in it. Much appreciated.
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Post by loammi on Aug 26, 2018 12:43:37 GMT -5
bambooshank thanks for posting your morta pipes and observations about smoking them. Great info and write up!
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 26, 2018 13:02:31 GMT -5
I keep forgetting about the Davorin morta I have. It is also a fantastic pipe with any kind of tobacco. I am close to selling my Becker, not because it is a bad pipe, but it's capacity is huge, too much for me. And I get nervous about smoking such an expensive pipe.
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 13:20:59 GMT -5
I understand to a degree, the large capacity part, I don’t even give it a second thought when I smoke Bo Nordhs personal pipe. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:18:45 GMT -5
Here is another Askwith Morta I own, I planned to smoke it on a nice afternoon with not a lot of breeze, just enough to get some ashes on my black shirt, low 70's and middle of the road humidity wise. Had planned on having some Bob's Chocolate Flake in this pipe when I noticed I had left some OGS out so I figured since it was perfectly ready to smoke I'd just fill it up. From the capable hand of Chris Askwith, obviously steady as well considering the length of the shank on this pipe, comes this outrageously beautiful almost 10" long Morta Cutty with Maple Syrup Stem. Keeping it smokey. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:20:09 GMT -5
Another older post.... Well I was quite pleased to see the five tins of F&T Cut Virginia Plug made it to me from Mars and Cigars, lightning fast! I photographed the two tins, the 12 y/o is on top and the change in color is remarkable. Considering how well the 12 y/o performed in all the pot shapes I've smoked them in thus far I figured the best way to minimize any flavor profile that any briar pipe or and ebonite, or vulcanite, stem may add I would smoke the old and new in a Ringling Canted Morta Pot, with horn stem, that comes from a white sand bog in Europe. While Morta can add its own unique flavor depending on what kind of conditions it was exposed to in the big it generally smokes off by the fifth smoke. The Ringling Morta pipes I have from the white sand bog both smoked neutral right from the first smoke and the horn stem is also neutral adding no additional flavor profile. I am enjoying a smoke of the 12 y/o while I have some of the new flake drying to be smoked later. Morta can be smoked again as soon as it has cooled but I will allow this to cool and air out while the flake gets to where I feel it is smokable. The smoke in the Ringling was yet another revelation because rather than the citrusy notes being more forward with the spiciness in the background it seemed to marry the two and allowed them to play and linger on the palate, a very satisfying smoke indeed and definitely keeping it smokey. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:23:02 GMT -5
A post from fall about a Morta Blowfish. Still raw out but the sun is back so I loaded the Morta Blowfish with some aged Dunhill Dark Flake which gives a great flavor and wards off the chill. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:26:18 GMT -5
A really sweet Nautilus Morta Pipe from Croatian Pipemaker Marinko Neralić. Well the hot weather left us at least for today. Got a surprise in the mail, the Nautilus Morta from Croatia arrived. I didn't waste any time loading it with some 15 y/o sugar crystal flecked Aston Brindle Flake. Light as a feather, although I didn't weigh it but will later. It smokes as beautifully as it looks, a fine addition to my Morta collection, keeping it smokey. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:27:11 GMT -5
Made by Joao Reis is one I call a stretched Dublin due to the fact the front portion extends out and the rear portion is nearly flat. The chocolate colored Morta accentuates nicely with the three knuckle chocolate colored bamboo shank. Keeping it smokey with more Capstan Yellow. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:28:23 GMT -5
I’ll stop whenever you want me to! I fell in love with this pipe when I first saw photos of it. The bowl is Morta with three distinct colors, gold, chocolate and black. The bowl appears to be floating off the Beechwood shaft Made from Morta and Beech from Germany by Pipemaker Manfred Hortig I'm keeping it smokey with some Dunhill Dark Flake. banjo
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 26, 2018 14:28:39 GMT -5
You've gotta show a pic of your collection please. I think it would blow me away.
You could start a 'my pipes' thread.
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:30:16 GMT -5
Was working my way around the Talbert rack when I got to this really neat Morta Tankard with fancy silver band and slightly bent stem. Keeping it smokey with more Mac Baren Club Blend Roll Cut. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:31:49 GMT -5
From Spainish Pipemaker Sabina Santos comes the stunning 5th Anniversary smooth Morta Rhodesian with briar accent that has plateau on it. This beautiful pipe is keeping it smokey with Wessex Campaign. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:32:43 GMT -5
From Pipemaker Scottie Piersel comes this nearly grey colored Morta Bulldog with Cumberland stem. Wessex Campaign keeping it smokey. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 26, 2018 14:33:40 GMT -5
Well yesterday was certainly the day of the brain fart as I made a few incorrect statements citing Sabina Santos as being in Spain when she actually is in Portugal and I stated one of the colors of Morta was Blonde when I meant to say Golden, hopefully today will be better. Another of my Morta pipes from Davorin of Croatia is this Golden Morta Scoop with Diamond shank and Ivory colored stem, keeping it smokey with Wessex Campaign. banjo
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