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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 20, 2018 1:30:52 GMT -5
Well my thoughts on the same problem are that I don't worry too much about it. I often smoke on my way to work and pack a little too much tobacco in the bowl and can't finish it before I head in. I find that dumping the last little bit is less worrisome than finishing my pipe with ten minutes till the start of my shift, so I over pack sometimes. I think that in your case it sounds like you're a wet smoker, based on cobs and filters mitigating the presence of dottle. I say just stop using briars or at the very least, expect it to happen with briar pipes. I stopped expecting my briar pipes to perform as well as my cobs a while ago. Briar is just much more finicky than cobs. Nature of the beast and whatnot. As a final thought, as it pertains to the damage caused by certain smoking behaviors, if your goal isn't to have a pipe last two hundred years, don't worry about it. I haven't ever had a pipe wear out on me, but I know they can and I am okay with it. There is no right way to smoke your pipe. So long as you are enjoying it, traditional thinking and practice be damned. I think I posted it somewhere else on this forum before but I'll post it again. Here is a picture of one of my father's walking around/it's cold enough outside to freeze your snot when you breathe pipes: i.imgur.com/47UaeWI.jpgAmen. |
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Post by johnlawitzke on Sept 20, 2018 13:44:53 GMT -5
I don't think that I've seen anyone comment yet that an aromatic tends to leave more dottle than a non-aromatic.
I agree with previous comments that dryness of the tobacco and humidity levels will impact the amount of dottle. Living in Michigan, I see the humidity impact as we get very high humidity in the summer and very low humidity in the winter. In the summer, I end up with noticeably more dottle than I do in the winter.
As primarily a non-aromatic smoker who likes to dry tobacco way down, I usually end up with very little dottle. If there is 1/10th of the bowl left, that's a lot for me.
My definition of dottle: The stuff left at the bottom of a bowl which tastes off, resists a quick relight, and gets dumped.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 20, 2018 16:35:28 GMT -5
I don't think that I've seen anyone comment yet that an aromatic tends to leave more dottle than a non-aromatic. I agree with previous comments that dryness of the tobacco and humidity levels will impact the amount of dottle. Living in Michigan, I see the humidity impact as we get very high humidity in the summer and very low humidity in the winter. In the summer, I end up with noticeably more dottle than I do in the winter. As primarily a non-aromatic smoker who likes to dry tobacco way down, I usually end up with very little dottle. If there is 1/10th of the bowl left, that's a lot for me. My definition of dottle: The stuff left at the bottom of a bowl which tastes off, resists a quick relight, and gets dumped. I had thought of that recently, and when I took out my briar I put in a non aromatic. Which makes me think it's my drool. |
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Post by slowroll on Sept 21, 2018 12:14:37 GMT -5
sablebrush52 , I am truly impressed by your encyclopedic disquisition in your effort to contradict me. Having said that, I maintain the primary cause of pipe damage is smoking too hot, besides my other observations stated, whether or not one smokes the bottom. Spiderwebbing and fissures come from excessive heat, and it can happen all throughout the chamber. Smoking in the wind will certainly contribute whether or not one gets to the bottom. I look forward to your admonitions to all tobacco reviewers who tell us that their tobac smokes to a fine grey ash that they are risking serious damage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 12:38:01 GMT -5
A little un tamped loose in the bottom then you load the rest. You can also lightly blow the other direction to get rid of some of that moisture. I learned this while visiting the plant Mongo.
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 21, 2018 13:39:46 GMT -5
...load it how you want, smoke it how you want, deal with the consequences... that's how homo-sapiens learn...
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Post by sablebrush52 on Sept 21, 2018 15:01:10 GMT -5
sablebrush52 , I am truly impressed by your encyclopedic disquisition in your effort to contradict me. Having said that, I maintain the primary cause of pipe damage is smoking too hot, besides my other observations stated, whether or not one smokes the bottom. Spiderwebbing and fissures come from excessive heat, and it can happen all throughout the chamber. Smoking in the wind will certainly contribute whether or not one gets to the bottom. I look forward to your admonitions to all tobacco reviewers who tell us that their tobac smokes to a fine grey ash that they are risking serious damage. I nave always said that smoking too hot is the primary cause of damage. You said that it was caused by lying a pipe on its side or using a torch lighter and that sucking down to burn the last shreds was fine because it was low heat. You can try to spin this any way that you need. I have always and often said, and now so do you, smoking too hot causes damage to pipes. I'm happy that you look forward to my admonishments. It's nice to know that you approve. So on the subject of smoking a load of tobacco down to a fine gray ash: Smoking a blend down to a fine gray ash, assuming that the blend in question is capable of that, is nice, but isn't a goal, any more than smoking a bowl down to a fine gray or white, or pink, or whatever color ash on a single light is a goal. Too many newbie pipe smokers get caught up with this BS rather than just relaxing and enjoying a pipe at whatever level of practice they have. I can smoke down to a fine ash on one light while the pipe barely gets warm. BFD. And, it's not a goal. It's just something that happens from time to time. And more often than not, I toss out the last little bit under all that nice fine ash. And you know what? Sometimes I even have to relight a few times. Goodness. It's become fashionable to belittle expertise. My views on restoration are informed by my experience as a restorer. Not a pipe restorer, but as a restorer of antique fine jewelry, and to qualify the word "antique" I've restored pieces going back as far as the mid 18th century. To do that required more than knowledge of how to use a buffer. I learned how to produce alloys of precious metals from earlier eras, annealing, casting, soldering, patination, how to make hand drawn gold wire for filagree work and a host of other skills needed to replicate period work or modern work. And for all that I could do, I never thought of myself as ever knowing more than a fraction of what there was to know. I suppose that's the thing about pipes and tobaccos. It fascinates me so I'm always learning and asking questions rather than assuming that I know the answers. And just as with jewelry, I look to expert pros for that information, supplemented by practice. I talk with restorers, carvers, blenders, manufacturers, dealers, all kinds of people and I get to learn from them. And sometimes, if I think it may be helpful, I get to share what they have been kind enough to share with me. |
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Post by slowroll on Sept 21, 2018 17:51:19 GMT -5
Ok, Jesse, I'm duly impressed with your learned research. Give it a rest.
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