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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:43:06 GMT -5
How many have to deal with these kinda speeds over a dish and how do you do it? I've moved into a DEAD zone, No Cable it seems when I need the most out of internet. Maybe I'm wrong, if so please correct me.
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Post by Darin on Oct 6, 2018 18:44:02 GMT -5
Ron, I'm only pulling about 7Mbps at home and it's plenty to stream video.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Oct 6, 2018 18:49:33 GMT -5
Maybe use phone as hot spot ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:56:50 GMT -5
Ron, I'm only pulling about 7Mbps at home and it's plenty to stream video. Your 7 Mbps is most likely your upload speed?? That’s plenty for streaming videos. If 7 Mbps is your download speed your videos would usually not buffer properly. |
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Post by beardedmi on Oct 6, 2018 19:00:29 GMT -5
Mine is a 3 down 1 up dsl line and works ok with a single device drawing bandwidth. Its the best I can get out here on a copper line with no cable even close by.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 6, 2018 19:03:23 GMT -5
We were quite happy with 10Mbps at home, but all we can get now is 150Mbps.
We ran a totally internet based business for years with 30 users on 10Mbps. You can do it. If you are having issues and Speedtest verifies 12Mbps down, you probably have an issue with your equipment. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 19:03:38 GMT -5
At optimum, I have had 50, but the service sucks half the time and I am at 7 or so. Weird that I am limited to 4 on upload. Best I can get is 750 K and it cuts my download by 2/3
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Post by Darin on Oct 6, 2018 19:04:02 GMT -5
Ron, I'm only pulling about 7Mbps at home and it's plenty to stream video. Your 7 Mbps is most likely your upload speed?? That’s plenty for streaming videos. If 7 Mbps is your download speed your videos would usually not buffer properly. Nope ... download speed. It's plenty: |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Oct 6, 2018 19:12:54 GMT -5
We live so far out in the sticks that we can ONLY get dial up or satellite. So we have neither. When I need to use my pc I tether my phone.
It's a far cry from the 500 mbps I had with mediacom when I lived in the "city." I miss taking out my anger and stress in a tank or helicopter on Battlefield.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 19:14:06 GMT -5
Your 7 Mbps is most likely your upload speed?? That’s plenty for streaming videos. If 7 Mbps is your download speed your videos would usually not buffer properly. Nope ... download speed. It's plenty: Darin, @ 7 Mbps download speeds you should be fine to get online with no issues but I’ve not seen HD videos buffer properly with that download speed......especially Netflix |
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Post by Darin on Oct 6, 2018 19:15:36 GMT -5
Nope ... download speed. It's plenty: Darin, @ 7 Mbps download speeds you should be fine to get online with no issues but I’ve not seen HD videos buffer properly with that download speed......especially Netflix We don't have Cable TV. Netflix, Amazon, Hulu are all we use ... no issues, no glitching. In fact, I can run 2 Smart TV's and a laptop at the same time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 19:25:43 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm very surprised. In the old days speeds like that would be dial up, click and wait.
Well, I reckon we'll see when we get there. Got use to 50Mbps I just figured I needed it.
Don't know if I trust a dish to give me the reception or connect I need but, I reckon it just spilt milk now.
Thank guys for the replies!
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Post by Cramptholomew on Oct 6, 2018 19:31:45 GMT -5
12mbps isn't terrible. I live in the sticks, just outside of town. I just had fiber run to my house, after 3 years of only DSL. We got the 50mbps package, since we're not doing any 4K stuff. We WERE getting 3mbps down on DSL, and we're able to stream fine, though quality wasn't the best. 12 should be enough to handle just about anything, unless you're trying to do 4K.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 19:37:39 GMT -5
12mbps isn't terrible. I live in the sticks, just outside of town. I just had fiber run to my house, after 3 years of only DSL. We got the 50mbps package, since we're not doing any 4K stuff. We WERE getting 3mbps down on DSL, and we're able to stream fine, though quality wasn't the best. 12 should be enough to handle just about anything, unless you're trying to do 4K. Yup, with 3 Mbps you’ll stream but poor quality, a few years ago YouTube would not buffer properly @ 3 Mbps, but now it does. If Ron is getting 12 Mbps he should be fine. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 6, 2018 19:42:22 GMT -5
7 is about my average over the fiber optic line. Sometimes I test at 10. When that happens the steam condenser on my old computer starts leaking and the tubes glow too bright. "I canna hold her, Captain! She's gonna blow the check valves!!"
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 6, 2018 20:34:17 GMT -5
How many have to deal with these kinda speeds over a dish and how do you do it? I've moved into a DEAD zone, No Cable it seems when I need the most out of internet. Maybe I'm wrong, if so please correct me.
The big pain on a dish is latency.
Cable internet is typically around 10 mbps, at 10 ms of latency. Satellite internet is often in the 10 mbps area, at 400 ms of latency.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 6, 2018 20:38:27 GMT -5
Latency and bandwidth are unrelated. You can have good latency and bad bandwidth (old-timey ISDN) or great bandwidth and awful latency (satellite)
Browsing the web with high latency is a huge pain, whether or not you have good bandwidth. Streaming video should probably work just fine, given enough bandwidth, whether or not the latency is good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:59:19 GMT -5
Thank you sir
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Post by trailboss on Oct 6, 2018 21:09:26 GMT -5
My phone has pretty crazy speed, 83 MPs download 25 on the upload pretty consistently, I have Verizon coverage through Pageplus cellular which is part of Tracfone... unlimited data for a flat $53 per month.
My home through Cox Cable is 22 on the download, and 6 on the upload, but we never have any issues streaming
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Post by cappadoc on Oct 6, 2018 21:18:06 GMT -5
I had 10 Mbps on satellite before. Turned out speed was like 5-7 at best. Hated it.
Got cable installed a few months ago and it’s a new world.
No issues with web or Netflix anymore.
I hate satellite internet. Ping times were stupid slow.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Oct 6, 2018 22:07:42 GMT -5
I have fios 100 up and 100 down but I’m near a big city.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 6, 2018 23:06:08 GMT -5
I had 10 Mbps on satellite before. Turned out speed was like 5-7 at best. Hated it. Got cable installed a few months ago and it’s a new world. No issues with web or Netflix anymore. I hate satellite internet. Ping times were stupid slow. Ping times are the latency, which is where satellite falls down. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 23:27:21 GMT -5
Well, It looks like I'll have to prepare myself for slow internet.
I reckon there's one good thing about it, it'll keep me off the PC a lot and maybe I'll get more done.
Cause no way am I gona do cell phone.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Oct 7, 2018 0:33:30 GMT -5
The thing I'd verify is that you have a fairly new router.
Several years ago, 6 or so, I cut the cord and went to streaming everything, tv, etc...
We got the best that was available then, 150mbps or so.
It's since been upped to 300mbps.
We purchased a new router back then, a netgear 39 I believe.
If i plug directly into the router, not wifi, I get 200 mbps.
Just did a speedtest.net up here in the cave, am getting 50 mbps down and 20 sumpin up.
I have found that I do need to reset the router once or twice a month.
Probably gonna pick up a new gigabit router for Christmas.
All of that to say this...
1. You might need to reset the router more often
2. You might need a new router
jmho
ymmv
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 7, 2018 8:17:14 GMT -5
My mum has around 12 Mbps and it does the job well for YouTube or Netflix etc.
At home we have stood 80 Mbps which is the fastest we can get in the area. It does the job when we've got 2 girls watching different things at the same time or playing online.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Oct 7, 2018 8:31:23 GMT -5
The thing I'd verify is that you have a fairly new router. Several years ago, 6 or so, I cut the cord and went to streaming everything, tv, etc... We got the best that was available then, 150mbps or so. It's since been upped to 300mbps. We purchased a new router back then, a netgear 39 I believe. If i plug directly into the router, not wifi, I get 200 mbps. Just did a speedtest.net up here in the cave, am getting 50 mbps down and 20 sumpin up. I have found that I do need to reset the router once or twice a month. Probably gonna pick up a new gigabit router for Christmas. All of that to say this... 1. You might need to reset the router more often 2. You might need a new router jmho ymmv dino if you're on WiFi, you usually won't get close to what you'd get jacked in. Even at router advertised speeds. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 7, 2018 8:43:56 GMT -5
The thing I'd verify is that you have a fairly new router. Several years ago, 6 or so, I cut the cord and went to streaming everything, tv, etc... We got the best that was available then, 150mbps or so. It's since been upped to 300mbps. We purchased a new router back then, a netgear 39 I believe. If i plug directly into the router, not wifi, I get 200 mbps. Just did a speedtest.net up here in the cave, am getting 50 mbps down and 20 sumpin up. I have found that I do need to reset the router once or twice a month. Probably gonna pick up a new gigabit router for Christmas. All of that to say this... 1. You might need to reset the router more often 2. You might need a new router jmho ymmv dino if you're on WiFi, you usually won't get close to what you'd get jacked in. Even at router advertised speeds. True that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:09:20 GMT -5
I am on a shared network this morning I am setting at 13.21 Mbps that means I can watch movies or whatever I want to do. Now if that goes below 7Mbps I would probably have issues streaming. Meaning I could be going along fine and then I would have to restart the video at some point. The hardest things to do via the Net are streaming and online video games. In my own opinion the equipment that the providers pass out is pure crapola but a good modem and router is expensive stuff.
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Post by McWiggins on Oct 7, 2018 9:33:33 GMT -5
The thing I'd verify is that you have a fairly new router. Several years ago, 6 or so, I cut the cord and went to streaming everything, tv, etc... We got the best that was available then, 150mbps or so. It's since been upped to 300mbps. We purchased a new router back then, a netgear 39 I believe. If i plug directly into the router, not wifi, I get 200 mbps. Just did a speedtest.net up here in the cave, am getting 50 mbps down and 20 sumpin up. I have found that I do need to reset the router once or twice a month. Probably gonna pick up a new gigabit router for Christmas. All of that to say this... 1. You might need to reset the router more often 2. You might need a new router jmho ymmv dino if you're on WiFi, you usually won't get close to what you'd get jacked in. Even at router advertised speeds. To add to this, the average home router will also be slower on WiFi. The much more high end (but costly) routers will do better with speed and signal strength. A repeater/extender might be needed as well. Even at just 80% of strength, performance degradation can be noticed. |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 7, 2018 9:42:07 GMT -5
if you're on WiFi, you usually won't get close to what you'd get jacked in. Even at router advertised speeds. To add to this, the average home router will also be slower on WiFi. The much more high end (but costly) routers will do better with speed and signal strength. A repeater/extender might be needed as well. Even at just 80% of strength, performance degradation can be noticed. WiFi repeaters are a mixed blessing The maximum throughput on any node connected through a repeater is 1/2 of the available throughput on the host network. Meaning, if the repeater achieves 100 mbps talking to the upstream network, clients connected via repeater will experience a maximum of 50 mbps. (Often much less than that, since the clients struggle to reach the repeater.) Worse, consumer gear doesn't understand how to manage its radios to avoid interference, so clients that are "in between" the repeater and the upstream network may find themselves switching between the two. It is often easier to move your wifi unit to a more favorable location than try to figure out the nasty tradeoffs between repeaters and signal strength |
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