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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 8, 2018 12:44:59 GMT -5
Let's chip in all our ideas and suggestions and put them in this one thread so new people can benefit from the experience of others.
If you've suggested things before, copy and paste it here rather than link to other threads so we can have a database of ideas on how to keep our pipes lit.
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Post by Baboo on Oct 8, 2018 12:51:04 GMT -5
Pipe smoking doesn't always work out for everybody, especially from a conventional pipe. I would suggest either keeping at it until something clicks, or roll your tasty pipe tobaccos into cigarette form, which I do quite often... stays lit till the end; control over draw and mouthfill is greatly increased; and flavor is flavor.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Oct 8, 2018 13:12:30 GMT -5
Practice , y'all have come up with great ideas on proper filling of pipes, drying tobacco out. Maybe their could be a flaw with a certain pipe you own, I enjoy smoking from a cob seems to take some guess work out of the equation. Trial and error, I'm sure some vets will chime in..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 13:45:07 GMT -5
Like Baboo once in while I stuff a Athey filter less tube when trying out a new blend or just cause. I gave up worrying about relights unless excessive. If it is not working out sometimes the best action to take is dump it and start over. You can also use the poker on the Czech tool to do what else but poke holes in the loaded tobacco.
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Post by flybypipe on Oct 8, 2018 14:37:27 GMT -5
Two tobaccos that consistently give me fits, in a number of pipes, are Seattle Pipe Club’s Plum Cake and Mississippi River Select. Has anyone else found these to be a bit wet? I’ve packed them by tearing them a part, by folding, and by “chunking”, but cannot keep them lit for more than about 4-5 good puffs. Ribbon cuts I have no trouble with.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 8, 2018 14:56:29 GMT -5
Two tobaccos that consistently give me fits, in a number of pipes, are Seattle Pipe Club’s Plum Cake and Mississippi River Select. Has anyone else found these to be a bit wet? I’ve packed them by tearing them a part, by folding, and by “chunking”, but cannot keep them lit for more than about 4-5 good puffs. Ribbon cuts I have no trouble with. I am very fond of Mississippi River Reserve. It is indeed packed a little wet.
I crumble it quite a bit, then really just light the heck out of it during my charring light. You want the entire top of the bowl to be ash before proceeding to the true light.
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Post by flybypipe on Oct 8, 2018 15:17:45 GMT -5
Thank you, I will give it a try.
BTW, it’s SPC Plum Pudding, not Cake as I put in my original post.
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 8, 2018 15:18:42 GMT -5
Pipe smoking doesn't always work out for everybody, especially from a conventional pipe. I would suggest either keeping at it until something clicks, or roll your tasty pipe tobaccos into cigarette form, which I do quite often... stays lit till the end; control over draw and mouthfill is greatly increased; and flavor is flavor. Former cig smokers need to understand that salt peter is added to the tobacco in modern filter cigs to make them burn continuosly. Not so with pipe tobacco and you meed to learn how to load and light a bowl. There are many ways based on many ways and conditions, i.e. type of 'baccy, size of bowl humidity of both the ,baccy and the anbient air. My suggestion would be to start with one form of loading of a particular blend and style of pipe and stick with it till you get this manner down. The current fashion of smoking a dozen or more at a time will teach you nothing This thing takes TIME and can't be learned over night. This was the advice given me over 50 years ago and I stuck with it, learned how with one blend for months and then moved to others in the same way. Doing things this way has led to over 50+ years of enjoyment JMHO
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Post by haveldad on Oct 8, 2018 15:29:13 GMT -5
Lighter fluid soak
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 15:33:39 GMT -5
For me there has been no such thing as a relight-free smoke with a pipeful. The closest I've come to that, representing the fewest relights for me, is with a good drying out of the tobacco prior to smoking and the air pocket fill method. The false light/true light routine is a given.
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Post by xjking on Oct 8, 2018 15:36:23 GMT -5
I've been using this method and it never lets me down...
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Post by roadsdiverged on Oct 8, 2018 15:38:05 GMT -5
To me it's more so about the prep and the pack. Different blends need to be dried more than others. Some cuts need to be packed a little more firm or a little lighter to maintain an ember. It's all trial and error.
The one thing I've learned, be patient
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Post by kxg on Oct 8, 2018 15:40:39 GMT -5
For me there has been no such thing as a relight-free smoke with a pipeful. The closest I've come to that, representing the fewest relights for me, is with a good drying out of the tobacco prior to smoking and the air pocket fill method. The false light/true light routine is a given. This and getting the "pack" just right. Too loose, lots of tamping and a short smoke. Too tight, lots & lots of relights and a less than satisfying smoke. For whatever reason, it took me too long to figure out that the object of packing a pipe was NOT to see how much I could cram in the bowl. Life has been smoother since I discovered the fallacy in my logic.
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Post by stogiebear on Oct 8, 2018 15:53:35 GMT -5
If you don’t want relights, drying is important, and cadence, and having a good light to start with, and tamping, and I wouldn’t go for a deep bowl. A 1” deep bowl is a lot easier to pack well than a 1.5”, and you can always smoke 2 pipes if it doesn’t last long enough for you.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Oct 8, 2018 16:01:14 GMT -5
I've never had a pipe that I didn't have to relight at least once. When I have many multiple relights, it's most often because I didn't dry it enough and/or packed it too tight. Usually, the latter. I tried the Goldilocks approach for a while (soft medium, hard) and that always gave me problems. Now, I use a loose rendition of the Frank method, but I don't even use as much tobacco as most people. It's worked out pretty well.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Oct 8, 2018 16:10:48 GMT -5
I can smoke some of my blends for almost 2 hours without relights. I'll admit that I was on LSD the last time that happened, though. Honestly what I do is just feel out the blend. You have to cadence each blend differently. Some require more effort than others. Some will, even a little moist, at a pretty steady pace, burn to the bottom of your bowl, with only a few sips required on your part. I tend to like my blends somewhere in between. I want to feel like I'm smoking a pipe but I don't want to play tug of war with tobacco either.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 8, 2018 16:14:55 GMT -5
If it goes out, I relight. I don't think much about it beyond that.
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Post by Baboo on Oct 8, 2018 16:18:37 GMT -5
No two pipe tobacco blends stay lit the same. Rarely have a load stay lit from start to finish. Relights are part of the fun, so long as not needed every 2 damn minutes. Dry time and packing are key most cases. RYO pipe tobacco cigs are a nice effective enjoyable changeup... don't knock till tried.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 8, 2018 16:25:22 GMT -5
No two pipe tobacco blends stay lit the same. Rarely have a load stay lit from start to finish. Relights are part of the fun, so long as not needed every 2 damn minutes. Dry time and packing are key most cases. RYO pipe tobacco cigs are a nice effective enjoyable changeup... don't knock till tried. Tim West has said that the best way to build up a "cake" is via relights... but I don't believe in "cakes", so... FWIW...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 16:35:54 GMT -5
How to keep your pipe lit........
Always make sure the tobacco your smoking is not overly moist. Tamp after your first light, re-light and you SHOULD be good to go. It takes some practice and experience. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the moment....you’ll get the hang of it fairly quick.👍
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Post by Baboo on Oct 8, 2018 16:54:31 GMT -5
No two pipe tobacco blends stay lit the same. Rarely have a load stay lit from start to finish. Relights are part of the fun, so long as not needed every 2 damn minutes. Dry time and packing are key most cases. RYO pipe tobacco cigs are a nice effective enjoyable changeup... don't knock till tried. Tim West has said that the best way to build up a "cake" is via relights... but I don't believe in "cakes", so... FWIW... I let my cakes build to about a dime's width... keeps a cooler pipe to the touch and helps to absorb a bit of moisture, FWIW.
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Post by flybypipe on Oct 8, 2018 17:30:37 GMT -5
Two tobaccos that consistently give me fits, in a number of pipes, are Seattle Pipe Club’s Plum Cake and Mississippi River Select. Has anyone else found these to be a bit wet? I’ve packed them by tearing them a part, by folding, and by “chunking”, but cannot keep them lit for more than about 4-5 good puffs. Ribbon cuts I have no trouble with. I am very fond of Mississippi River Reserve. It is indeed packed a little wet.
I crumble it quite a bit, then really just light the heck out of it during my charring light. You want the entire top of the bowl to be ash before proceeding to the true light.
I took some of the Plum Pudding and left it dry in the open for about 45 minutes. I then followed your technique (in a broken in cob). More than twenty minutes on original light! Thank you for taking the time to post something more helpful than using lighter fluid.
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 8, 2018 17:38:52 GMT -5
+1 on this..
I've found that a really good charring and true light helps. Like, get a really good ember going.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 17:48:26 GMT -5
Soak your “ baccy “ in lighter fluid.....that will be tasty....🤪🤪😜😜😜. “ Garunteed “ tongue bite!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 18:03:44 GMT -5
Not solutions, but some observations:
MM and MM Hardwood pipes burn better after tamping. This can also go for narrower chamber pipes. If I am smoking away on an MM and the puff gets a little light, I tamp and the dadgummed load goes down 50% and then puffs away.
On wider bowls tamping around the edge to form a center helps, but takes longer and you will probably relight it.
I'm somewhat of a puffer, though learning to draw Five Brothers without turning into London Fog has helped with other blends. Anyway, the continual working at my smokes seems to keep them lit one I get past initial "flame on"
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Oct 8, 2018 20:01:49 GMT -5
I pack correctly and tamp often and as an added trick I blow gently back into the pipe ever so often to add O2
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Post by sablebrush52 on Oct 8, 2018 20:30:09 GMT -5
There's no skirting around the necessity of practice and patience.
The "right" pack will vary from smoker to smoker, depending on that smoker's habits, the blend being used, and the particular chamber size. When it comes to packing, I'll do anything from a codger scoop to a gravity feed, and all points in between. It varies on the blend involved.
Flakes I either cube cut or rub out. I'm not a fan of stuff and fold. But if you want to try stuff and fold, consider setting up your pipe the day before you are going to smoke it, to give the flake some drying out time. Reserve a little bit of the flake to finely rub out and sprinkle over the top before lighting, so that it acts like tinder to help get the whole edge of the flake going. Even then, flakes can vary in their burn rate.
About the only constant is that I dry my tobacco until it is almost bone dry before packing. The level of dryness varies a little depending on the particular blend, but all of them taste better bone dry.
A charring light, gently tamped after the charring light goes out, gives a nice insulating layer of ash over the top. A match gives me more control on getting an even light over the entire circumference of the bowl.
I don't worry about relights. Some blends are easy to keep lit to the bottom of the bowl and others just don't stay lit.
My cadence varies automatically depending on how the tobacco is burning. I don't use any sort of strict cadence. After a while you develop a sense for how the tobacco is burning.
At this point in my smoking "career" I really just don't think about it. I just light up, enjoy a flavorful cool smoke, and sometimes I have to relight, and sometimes I don't.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Oct 8, 2018 22:47:30 GMT -5
How to keep your pipe lit........ Always make sure the tobacco your smoking is not overly moist. Tamp after your first light, re-light and you SHOULD be good to go. It takes some practice and experience. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the moment....you’ll get the hang of it fairly quick.👍 I like this video a lot. The guy shares his information in a straightforward way without going on about a lot of unrelated stuff. Simple and to the point. What he says about blowing into the pipe is interesting because one of the popular smoking methods, breath smoking, employs this technique.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 8, 2018 23:04:22 GMT -5
So here is an idea. Not for everyone, but for those starting out.
My first questions were, is it me, is it the pipe, or is it the tobacco?
So to figure this out, I might start with one pipe. And one tobacco. And practice till you can master that particular pipe and that particular tobacco. With proper pipe loading, puffing cadence, tamping cadence, and of course tobacco treatment, all of the stuff talked about above.
If you can get one tobacco to work in one pipe, then you know its not you. When using a different pipe or different tobacco you may have to change things up, let this one dry a little more, tamp this one a bit more frequently, puff a little slower on that, but you will get the intuition down as to what to change. But first get control of the process with one pipe and one tobacco.
My suggestion would be a cob, a MM Country Gentleman, and some Carter Hall. It tastes fine and is very well behaved. Once you can keep that lit for longer periods, you will be way ahead of the situation.
Once you can drive a car, you only need to learn the idiosyncrasies of each car you drive in the future.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 8, 2018 23:08:36 GMT -5
So here is an idea. Not for everyone, but for those starting out. My first questions were, is it me, is it the pipe, or is it the tobacco? So to figure this out, I might start with one pipe. And one tobacco. And practice till you can master that particular pipe and that particular tobacco. With proper pipe loading, puffing cadence, tamping cadence, and of course tobacco treatment, all of the stuff talked about above. If you can get one tobacco to work in one pipe, then you know its not you. When using a different pipe or different tobacco you may have to change things up, let this one dry a little more, tamp this one a bit more frequently, puff a little slower on that, but you will get the intuition down as to what to change. But first get control of the process with one pipe and one tobacco. My suggestion would be a cob, a MM Country Gentleman, and some Carter Hall. It tastes fine and is very well behaved. Once you can keep that lit for longer periods, you will be way ahead of the situation. Once you can drive a car, you only need to learn the idiosyncrasies of each car you drive in the future. ...good way to look at it, Jeff...
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