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Post by antb on Oct 9, 2018 2:00:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 2:22:28 GMT -5
Smoke in your car, with the window rolled down  ......  and your head out the window......you’ll always have that special burning ember👌😜🤪😂😂😂 |
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 9, 2018 4:00:12 GMT -5
Smoke in your car, with the window rolled down ...... and your head out the window......you’ll always have that special burning ember👌😜🤪😂😂😂 When I had an MGA I would light my pipe then when I got up to 60 mph I'd put my pipe up over the windshield and could finish a grp 6 size bowl of folded Va flake in about 2 minutes. Only bad thing was i went thru quite a few burn outs this way   |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 9, 2018 8:28:41 GMT -5
So here is an idea. Not for everyone, but for those starting out. My first questions were, is it me, is it the pipe, or is it the tobacco? So to figure this out, I might start with one pipe. And one tobacco. And practice till you can master that particular pipe and that particular tobacco. With proper pipe loading, puffing cadence, tamping cadence, and of course tobacco treatment, all of the stuff talked about above. If you can get one tobacco to work in one pipe, then you know its not you. When using a different pipe or different tobacco you may have to change things up, let this one dry a little more, tamp this one a bit more frequently, puff a little slower on that, but you will get the intuition down as to what to change. But first get control of the process with one pipe and one tobacco. My suggestion would be a cob, a MM Country Gentleman, and some Carter Hall. It tastes fine and is very well behaved. Once you can keep that lit for longer periods, you will be way ahead of the situation. Once you can drive a car, you only need to learn the idiosyncrasies of each car you drive in the future. This is good advice. |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 9, 2018 8:29:12 GMT -5
Smoke in your car, with the window rolled down ...... and your head out the window......you’ll always have that special burning ember👌😜🤪😂😂😂 The ole' "five minute break-in"
give it five minutes out that window and it it either breaks in or burns out !
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Oct 9, 2018 8:57:59 GMT -5
For me there has been no such thing as a relight-free smoke with a pipeful. The closest I've come to that, representing the fewest relights for me, is with a good drying out of the tobacco prior to smoking and the air pocket fill method. The false light/true light routine is a given. This and getting the "pack" just right. Too loose, lots of tamping and a short smoke. Too tight, lots & lots of relights and a less than satisfying smoke. For whatever reason, it took me too long to figure out that the object of packing a pipe was NOT to see how much I could cram in the bowl. Life has been smoother since I discovered the fallacy in my logic. This was my problem for years. Then, I was talking to a buddy of my dad’s who was a smoker. I mentioned that I had been smoking for about three years. With anymore information, he said “you’re packing it too tight.” Kind of taken aback, I asked what made him say that. He replied that EVERYONE packs too tight and then has to learn to pack less. He said it was one of the things that separates “a pipe smoker from someone who smokes pipes.” |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 9, 2018 10:07:57 GMT -5
There's no skirting around the necessity of practice and patience. The "right" pack will vary from smoker to smoker, depending on that smoker's habits, the blend being used, and the particular chamber size. When it comes to packing, I'll do anything from a codger scoop to a gravity feed, and all points in between. It varies on the blend involved. Flakes I either cube cut or rub out. I'm not a fan of stuff and fold. But if you want to try stuff and fold, consider setting up your pipe the day before you are going to smoke it, to give the flake some drying out time. Reserve a little bit of the flake to finely rub out and sprinkle over the top before lighting, so that it acts like tinder to help get the whole edge of the flake going. Even then, flakes can vary in their burn rate. About the only constant is that I dry my tobacco until it is almost bone dry before packing. The level of dryness varies a little depending on the particular blend, but all of them taste better bone dry. A charring light, gently tamped after the charring light goes out, gives a nice insulating layer of ash over the top. A match gives me more control on getting an even light over the entire circumference of the bowl. I don't worry about relights. Some blends are easy to keep lit to the bottom of the bowl and others just don't stay lit. My cadence varies automatically depending on how the tobacco is burning. I don't use any sort of strict cadence. After a while you develop a sense for how the tobacco is burning. At this point in my smoking "career" I really just don't think about it. I just light up, enjoy a flavorful cool smoke, and sometimes I have to relight, and sometimes I don't. Some sage advice there. Thanks for sharing that. |
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Post by michael on Oct 9, 2018 13:58:29 GMT -5
If you hit it hard enough it will not go out. But then it burns my mouth.
If you had an electric pipe you could press the button to "lite it up" and keep it lit.
Yes you would "waste" some tobacco but I don't really care. Relighting annoys me.
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 9, 2018 14:18:00 GMT -5
If you hit it hard enough it will not go out. But then it burns my mouth. If you had an electric pipe you could press the button to "lite it up" and keep it lit. Yes you would "waste" some tobacco but I don't really care. Relighting annoys me. I think part of the 'art' of pipe smoking is the slowing down. That requires patience in and of itself. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 9, 2018 14:25:09 GMT -5
If you hit it hard enough it will not go out. But then it burns my mouth. If you had an electric pipe you could press the button to "lite it up" and keep it lit. Yes you would "waste" some tobacco but I don't really care. Relighting annoys me. I think part of the 'art' of pipe smoking is the slowing down. That requires patience in and of itself. ...that might be the real and only "secret", LL... |
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Post by jeffd on Oct 9, 2018 15:52:21 GMT -5
If you hit it hard enough it will not go out. But then it burns my mouth. If you had an electric pipe you could press the button to "lite it up" and keep it lit. Yes you would "waste" some tobacco but I don't really care. Relighting annoys me. Are you tamping to keep the burning ember in contact with the unburnt tobacco below it? |
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Post by briarbuck on Oct 9, 2018 15:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by Screaming Jazz on Oct 9, 2018 20:13:45 GMT -5
If it goes out, I relight. I don't think much about it beyond that. This is how I go about it. Works well for me. |
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Post by Screaming Jazz on Oct 9, 2018 20:19:56 GMT -5
If you hit it hard enough it will not go out. But then it burns my mouth. If you had an electric pipe you could press the button to "lite it up" and keep it lit. Yes you would "waste" some tobacco but I don't really care. Relighting annoys me. Sometimes the good things in life aren't what is easiest. I'll admit that being able to have a bowl that stays at the perfect temperature would be nice. |
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Post by Screaming Jazz on Oct 9, 2018 20:23:30 GMT -5
Thinking about it more though, an electric pipe wouldn't even stay at the perfect temperature. Puffing on it could seriously raise the heat. Without good heat insulation, those electronics wouldn't last very long.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 9, 2018 20:27:03 GMT -5
Light the pipe. Smoke it until it goes out. Light it again. It isn't rocket science.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 9, 2018 21:45:11 GMT -5
Keeping the ember in contact with the as yet un-burnt tobacco underneath it through tamping is kind of important. Pipe will go out when the ember runs out of fuel. At that point, it doesn't need oxygen, it doesn't need heat, it needs fuel.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Oct 9, 2018 23:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by chasingembers on Oct 9, 2018 23:23:30 GMT -5
Breath smoking does it for me.
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Post by Screaming Jazz on Oct 9, 2018 23:48:30 GMT -5
Breath smoking does it for me. I need to practice the breath method more. Attempted it a few times. It's just hard to constantly have it in my mouth because I'm usually talking or doing things that require my hands. |
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Post by chasingembers on Oct 10, 2018 0:03:10 GMT -5
You don't have to constantly clench to breath smoke. Once a good rhythm is established, a pipe will remain lit for a few minutes.
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Post by michael on Oct 10, 2018 0:31:50 GMT -5
Light the pipe. Smoke it until it goes out. Light it again. It isn't rocket science.
Re-lighting breaks the dance ..
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 10, 2018 2:42:38 GMT -5
Light the pipe. Smoke it until it goes out. Light it again. It isn't rocket science.
Re-lighting breaks the dance ..
...re-lights are integral steps in the dance, my friend... |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 10, 2018 6:06:38 GMT -5
Re-lighting breaks the dance ..
...re-lights are integral steps in the dance, my friend... Nice. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 10, 2018 6:07:31 GMT -5
Thinking about it more though, an electric pipe wouldn't even stay at the perfect temperature. Puffing on it could seriously raise the heat. Without good heat insulation, those electronics wouldn't last very long. Also, I reckon the constant higher heat would serve to extinguish the flavour. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 10, 2018 8:01:47 GMT -5
Sometimes drawing on the pipe whilst gently tamping can also help to stoke the fire a bit.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 10, 2018 13:35:30 GMT -5
Sometimes drawing on the pipe whilst gently tamping can also help to stoke the fire a bit. This matches my experience. I think its the combination of three things - Fuel - ember contact with tobacco below Oxygen - more air, like a bellows Heat - concentrates the heat a bit |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 10, 2018 15:44:36 GMT -5
Sometimes drawing on the pipe whilst gently tamping can also help to stoke the fire a bit. This matches my experience. I think its the combination of three things - Fuel - ember contact with tobacco below Oxygen - more air, like a bellows Heat - concentrates the heat a bit I think you're right. Makes sense. |
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Post by Matthew on Oct 10, 2018 20:42:40 GMT -5
So the basics
Dry you tobacco,some blends more than
others.Play with the dryness until your
happy with the burn plus flavor.
Proper pack,the method isn't as important
as the result.You should be able to draw
with a slight resistance.
Tamping,let the tamper do the work.
Don't push on it,if you tamp too hard
you can plug up your draught opening.
Tamp about every five to eight draws to
keep the ember in contact with the
tobacco.With a little practice you
can tamp around the edges and get a
more even burn.
Cadence,Too fast your pipe burns hot.
Short smoke time and less flavor.Too
slow and you end up relighting alot.
I've found short tugs in between draws
helps keep a steady burn.
Relighting is just part of the experience.
Don't fret over it.Get a good book or movie
to take your mind off of it and most will
come about naturally.
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Post by flyinmanatee on Oct 10, 2018 22:11:00 GMT -5
No two pipe tobacco blends stay lit the same. Rarely have a load stay lit from start to finish. Relights are part of the fun, so long as not needed every 2 damn minutes. Dry time and packing are key most cases. RYO pipe tobacco cigs are a nice effective enjoyable changeup... don't knock till tried. Tim West has said that the best way to build up a "cake" is via relights... but I don't believe in "cakes", so... FWIW... He also talks about "tamp the middle/light the edges" which I don't know keeps the cherry centered with more unlit tobacco exposed to it I guess. How to just light the edges I don't quite get yet. |
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