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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 29, 2018 15:56:39 GMT -5
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALWAYS USE DISPOSABLE GLOVES WHEN YOU ARE STAINING...OTHERWISE YOU ARE IN FOR A RUDE WAKE-UP
Tried using Fiebings black stain on a cob that I had painted green before...used acetone to get most of the green paint off, sanded the cob and shank as best I could, put the black stain on, let it dry...tried sanding to get some "grain"...black stain is a bear to get even a little off...letting it dry some more, will try again tomorrow...maybe the stain is still wet inside the kernels on the cob...whatever, I have NO plans to use black again...particularly on a cob.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 29, 2018 16:13:38 GMT -5
Very nice job Walt!
Disposable gloves? Let me guess.. you have some black fingers now?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 16:30:11 GMT -5
Any dye or stains make sure you wear disposable gloves. I have a good tight fitting pair of heavy latex gloves just for that purpose, worth the cheap investment 👍
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 29, 2018 17:20:55 GMT -5
Yes...gloves are a requirement. I was using them and wanted to pass on that vital piece of information as I saw what they did to they gloves. The black stain seems to be a bit of a bear to deal with...waiting for morning before I deal with it again...at this point, I would not suggest using black stain for cobs...but like I said, I'll wait for morning to determine exactly what my humble advice would be. Probably fine on briar...something as absorbent as cob...NOPE.
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Post by piffyr on Nov 29, 2018 21:22:02 GMT -5
Finally found my camera...had to recharge the battery...been awhile...anyway, here they are...best I could do with limited knowledge.    The top picture is a country gentleman with a saddle tan stain. The second one is a Legend with dark brown stain, the last is a Legend with saddle tan stain. Working on one now using black stain after which I will sand it down to get some "grain" to show and then coat it with the poly seal to see how that comes out. Again, sorry, I don't have piffy's skills so this is about the best I can do. So far I am the happiest with the saddle tan stain. Full marks, old boy! That Gent looks ready for the ball! |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 29, 2018 21:25:00 GMT -5
Finally found my camera...had to recharge the battery...been awhile...anyway, here they are...best I could do with limited knowledge. The top picture is a country gentleman with a saddle tan stain. The second one is a Legend with dark brown stain, the last is a Legend with saddle tan stain. Working on one now using black stain after which I will sand it down to get some "grain" to show and then coat it with the poly seal to see how that comes out. Again, sorry, I don't have piffy's skills so this is about the best I can do. So far I am the happiest with the saddle tan stain. Full marks, old boy! That Gent looks ready for the ball! Thank you, Sir...coming from you, that is quite a compliment...couldn't and wouldn't have done it without your ideas and thoughts on the subject. |
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Post by piffyr on Nov 29, 2018 21:25:11 GMT -5
Yes...gloves are a requirement. I was using them and wanted to pass on that vital piece of information as I saw what they did to they gloves. The black stain seems to be a bit of a bear to deal with...waiting for morning before I deal with it again...at this point, I would not suggest using black stain for cobs...but like I said, I'll wait for morning to determine exactly what my humble advice would be. Probably fine on briar...something as absorbent as cob...NOPE. You can thin any of the dyes with alcohol. That will likely make them much easier to work with. Also, be careful with the acetone. Remember that cobs are very absorbent and even residual acetone ingestion is no bueno. |
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Post by piffyr on Nov 29, 2018 21:27:16 GMT -5
Thank you, Sir...coming from you, that is quite a compliment...couldn't and wouldn't have done it without your ideas and thoughts on the subject. I'm glad to have contributed in any small way, but the results are all yours, my friend. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 29, 2018 22:00:17 GMT -5
Since I foolishly used acetone on the cob...I'll definitely be waiting til morning and maybe even later to get all the acetone out of the cob before doing anything else with it. Hopefully there isn't any residual oils in the acetone to make it go POOF when I light it.
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Post by piffyr on Nov 30, 2018 0:42:03 GMT -5
Since I foolishly used acetone on the cob...I'll definitely be waiting til morning and maybe even later to get all the acetone out of the cob before doing anything else with it. Hopefully there isn't any residual oils in the acetone to make it go POOF when I light it. Nothing foolish about it, Walt. Just something to be mindful of. It evaporates quickly. So, no deep absorption unless you really wet the cob down while working, which I doubt you did. Nothing to go POOF remaining. Let it rest for the night and you'll be good to go. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 30, 2018 17:56:44 GMT -5
Yes...gloves are a requirement. I was using them and wanted to pass on that vital piece of information as I saw what they did to they gloves. The black stain seems to be a bit of a bear to deal with...waiting for morning before I deal with it again...at this point, I would not suggest using black stain for cobs...but like I said, I'll wait for morning to determine exactly what my humble advice would be. Probably fine on briar...something as absorbent as cob...NOPE. My suggestion is not to use a black stain...I tried it and frankly it looks terrible...way too dark and had a heck of a time trying to get it off...wasted a cob in trying the dark stain...my suggestion is to stay with saddle tan or dark brown...saddle tan I think is the best. |
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Post by kbareit on Nov 30, 2018 19:21:22 GMT -5
Lotta good looking cobs in this thread. After I learn how to smoke them properly I'll try to make a couple look nice.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Nov 30, 2018 19:22:09 GMT -5
Loving this thread, and I'm about to give it a shot myself.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 30, 2018 20:19:30 GMT -5
Good for you guys...thanks all to piffy who made it possible for us who are not as skilled in pipe refurbishing.
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 1, 2018 3:27:12 GMT -5
Good for you guys...thanks all to piffy who made it possible for us who are not as skilled in pipe refurbishing. oi! Who started this thread!!  Lol Ah, who am I kidding? 😞 Note: I'm only messing. piffyr's work is awesome and he's inspired pepesdad1 and me to try to replicate his work. That's a great endorsement. Imitation is the biggest form of flattery. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 1, 2018 9:41:07 GMT -5
Absolutely...and yes, Andre, you did start the thought of modifying cobs...at least here on the Patch. So, big thanks to you for the idea and, I still like painting the cobs that don't have great "grain". Got 1 that is a candidate.
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Post by piffyr on Dec 1, 2018 10:04:56 GMT -5
Imitation is the biggest form of flattery. I'm happy to be imitated or flattered, but I really don't think I contributed that much here except for posting a few photos. You guys just ran with it. Good on ya! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 1, 2018 11:09:04 GMT -5
I was honestly only joking. I'm glad this thread sparked creativity. I was messing around with my cob and it looked decent enough, so I was happy. What piffyr and pepesdad1 did was awesome. |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Dec 1, 2018 11:22:51 GMT -5
Crew,
What grit sandpaper to remove the varnish?
Patrick
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 1, 2018 11:45:17 GMT -5
I used 220 wet/dry sandpaper...cause that is what I had on hand...I would wait to see what piffy says...he is the expert, I'm just a fumbler and got lucky.
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Post by piffyr on Dec 1, 2018 15:09:05 GMT -5
Crew, What grit sandpaper to remove the varnish? Patrick 400 will do the trick. It'll leave you with a matte finish. If you want a polish, you'll have to up the grit ladder afterwards. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 1, 2018 15:10:03 GMT -5
Thanks, piffy...I made note of that for the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 15:13:05 GMT -5
Crew, What grit sandpaper to remove the varnish? Patrick I start with 220, then 400, 600 and I finish with wet 1000 grit.....a bit anal retentive......lol |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Dec 1, 2018 16:28:15 GMT -5
Notes taken, guys!
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 2, 2018 15:13:06 GMT -5
UPDATE: Sealer for the cob surface
When I bought the Fiebings stains, I also bought a small 8fl.oz. bottle of Duraclear High Gloss Polyuerthane Gloss Varnish...I applied it to 2 cobs that I had to restain and correct the horrible mess I had made with them.
I put the gloss varnish on full strength (water soluble) with the bent end of a pipe cleaner....worked fine on both cobs...no bubbling from heat as
I pushed both cobs to get hot to see if it would bubble. It didn't
So, when you get the bottles of stain, you may want to pick up a bottle of gloss varnish which you can cut if you want with water (I didn't)...stuff looks great just as the Krylon did.
Thought I'd pass this on if you are interested.
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Post by haveldad on Dec 4, 2018 11:24:49 GMT -5
UPDATE: Sealer for the cob surfaceWhen I bought the Fiebings stains, I also bought a small 8fl.oz. bottle of Duraclear High Gloss Polyuerthane Gloss Varnish...I applied it to 2 cobs that I had to restain and correct the horrible mess I had made with them. I put the gloss varnish on full strength (water soluble) with the bent end of a pipe cleaner....worked fine on both cobs...no bubbling from heat as I pushed both cobs to get hot to see if it would bubble. It didn't So, when you get the bottles of stain, you may want to pick up a bottle of gloss varnish which you can cut if you want with water (I didn't)...stuff looks great just as the Krylon did. Thought I'd pass this on if you are interested. Do you think spray on shellac would work the same? Or would heat disperse it since its a mostly natural product. |
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Post by flybypipe on Dec 4, 2018 11:38:49 GMT -5
I received three cobs this morning to play with.
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Post by addamsruspipe on Dec 4, 2018 12:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 4, 2018 12:32:29 GMT -5
Seeing what can be done with a cob got me interested. Only worked on briars before so have been playing around with them for the last week. This is my latest try, still figuring out the shallac, but getting better.    That looks great. Smoke it on St. Patrick's day. |
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Post by dervis on Dec 4, 2018 12:41:29 GMT -5
I like the green for sure.
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Lol
