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Post by Mac on Dec 6, 2018 14:47:20 GMT -5
I am indifferent to them. In other words, I wouldn't buy a pipe because it had a fishtail bit, nor would I not buy a pipe if it had a p-lip.
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Post by mwps70 on Dec 6, 2018 14:56:33 GMT -5
I had a P-lip on my Peterson Tankard and hated it. I actually had a normal stem made for it by Briarville Rick. The problem is I think I was just puffing too hard. It left the roof of my mouth raw. I have learned to sip now so I should re-visit it.
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Post by Robert Perkins on Dec 6, 2018 15:36:37 GMT -5
I get a laser beam of hot smoke burning into the roof of my mouth, and I just don't know what they were thinking with that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 23:07:29 GMT -5
For all of you who hate your P-lip pipes, PM me so that you can send them to me for proper disposal.
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Post by priest2705 on Dec 13, 2018 22:50:57 GMT -5
Ok, I'll bite. While I don't have one yet, I have an estate Peterson Donegal Rocky on the way, part of an estate lot that I won on eBay. It appears to have a P-lip. What causes the love or hate for the P-lip> While I see that the smoke is projected upward, why does that cause such emotion for or against it?
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 14, 2018 8:37:22 GMT -5
Ok, I'll bite. While I don't have one yet, I have an estate Peterson Donegal Rocky on the way, part of an estate lot that I won on eBay. It appears to have a P-lip. What causes the love or hate for the P-lip> While I see that the smoke is projected upward, why does that cause such emotion for or against it? For me, it's the fact that the sucking motion is different, for some reason, and the stem has to be further in the mouth to allow the upper hole to enter sufficiently so that the lips don't block it. It just takes a bit of getting used to. Some speak of the roof of their mouthes getting burned. I've not experienced that, but I can see how it could happen. |
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Post by mel64us on Jan 28, 2019 14:41:03 GMT -5
I have several Peterson p-lip pipes and do enjoy them.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2019 16:31:49 GMT -5
Peterson has been making P-lips for longer than most companies have been making pipes. 121 years. They have been copied by Savinelli and WDC that I know of. If they were so bad they would have stopped making them, don'cha think?
Not everyone will like it any more than every one likes M79. But people still buy them.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 28, 2019 16:33:56 GMT -5
I like system pipes. But I don't know that the design is as functional as mfr's claim. Say I smoke "x" tobacco in my NON-system pipes, there's hardly any moisture at the end of the smoke. Same "x" blend in my system pipes and there will be plenty of moisture in the well at the end of the smoke. So, sure, there's a lot of moisture in the well after a smoke. But it's the well system itself that's responsible for a lot of the moisture to begin with. The well system's drilling creates turbulence. Turbulence creates moisture. So the well is just capturing the moisture created by the system's complicated drilling design. That's my .02 at least. But, again, I like my system pipes. It's very difficult to drill a bent pipe without creating a well, one way or another. If you want a deep bent, it might be better to deliberately drill the "well" deep, in order to collect the unavoidable moisture from the discontinuities in the airway. |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 28, 2019 20:55:51 GMT -5
Not everyone will like it any more than every one likes M79. But people still buy them. Why M79?... Lol |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 28, 2019 21:03:29 GMT -5
Not all system pipes have Peterson Lips. I haven't smoked the newer ones but the one I have smokes great and the well at the most is moist. It all depends on what you smoke and how you smoke..
I disliked Peterson Lips until someone gave me an old Kapruf line pipe. They're much smaller and leaner than the newer pipes and the Peterson Lips are way more comfortable.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 28, 2019 21:14:19 GMT -5
Not everyone will like it any more than every one likes M79. But people still buy them. Why M79?... Lol Try it and see. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2019 21:33:12 GMT -5
Not everyone will like it any more than every one likes M79. But people still buy them. Why M79?... Lol Because it would be torture for me. And you like M79 and Rum Twist, so, there! |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 28, 2019 21:42:45 GMT -5
Because it would be torture for me. And you like M79 and Rum Twist, so, there! lol. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 28, 2019 21:54:21 GMT -5
 The upper P-lip is a system estate pipe that I bought from SP about 2014....It has had good smokes and some real roof of the mouth burners..I figured my mouth looked like rasberry cavern at times. Guessing that pipe is 80's or 90's production. I can work a pipe cleaner down the stem if I really work at it. The bottom one is an estate pipe I got a few months back, it is (I believe) a Pre-Republic Peterson (1939-1948) and has smoked smoothly every bowl...Passes a pipe cleaner through the P-lip with ease.  The Pre-republic is on the right, it has a larger hole, and I can imagine that the size is larger down inside the stem....just my opinion, but I think that is why it is a much better smoker, and has not given me roof rash. Some day when i find my calipers, I will measure the difference. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 28, 2019 22:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 28, 2019 23:22:28 GMT -5
I wonder who made these, and where. As far as I had known, Peterson turned no stummels in house. Do they have a line of "quaints" that just doesn't turn up very often? |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 28, 2019 23:48:18 GMT -5
As a clincher, I've always been warry. I already have three Petes, so I don't really see a P-lip in my future.
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Post by qmechanics on Jan 29, 2019 2:49:20 GMT -5
For all of you who hate your P-lip pipes, PM me so that you can send them to me for proper disposal. I will gladly serve as your subordinate and handle all overflow!! |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Jan 29, 2019 4:44:38 GMT -5
What is everyone's honest thoughts on the Peterson system pipes? I've been smoking one today and can't decide if I like it. I didn't read the whole thread but as I'm sure you've already discovered the plip refers to that little part that makes clenching easier. The system is good. It will take you some time to get used to. That chamber helps to wick moisture away. The drawback is it gets hot easier. Just slow down and once you get the hang of it, you'll love it. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 29, 2019 8:15:57 GMT -5
As a clincher, I've always been warry. I already have three Petes, so I don't really see a P-lip in my future. I found it more comfortable and easier to use when I clench. |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 29, 2019 8:56:37 GMT -5
Here is my 1940's era English made Peterson system 314.  |
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Post by longtom on Jan 29, 2019 11:10:20 GMT -5
Here is my 1940's era English made Peterson system 314.
Purty!
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Post by longtom on Jan 29, 2019 11:14:33 GMT -5
For the record, being very new to pipe smoking, the Peterson system w/ Plip, is very easy to smoke and forgiving of a rookie. My system standard 312 has smoked like a champ from day one. So much so that I bought a 301 to have two in rotation, and it smokes like a champ as well. My other non-system pipe I have found challenging.
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Post by Mac on Jan 29, 2019 11:47:16 GMT -5
Here is my 1940's era English made Peterson system 314. That's a beauty. Carnauba buffing? With wheel? Or Halcyon? I admire the finish! |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 29, 2019 14:53:51 GMT -5
As a clincher, I've always been warry. I already have three Petes, so I don't really see a P-lip in my future. I found it more comfortable and easier to use when I clench. Next time a sale crops up on Pipes&Cigars then. Haha |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 29, 2019 15:04:33 GMT -5
Here is my 1940's era English made Peterson system 314. That's a beauty. Carnauba buffing? With wheel? Or Halcyon? I admire the finish! Thank you! Dunno, that's how I received the pipe when I bought it. |
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Post by Tsal on Jan 29, 2019 15:05:02 GMT -5
Here is my 1940's era English made Peterson system 314.
Purty!
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Post by skeeter456 on Jan 29, 2019 19:10:04 GMT -5
Ive never been a fan of any petersons for some reason
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:33:24 GMT -5
I believe the whole thought of manufacturing the "P" lip was to direct the smoke to the roof of the mouth and away from the tongue to eliminate or reduce bite. That said it works for me on a limited basis but, I would like them more if only I could find Softies small enough to fit there stems, for you see I'm a hopeless eccentric that wishes to keep my stems looking new and can't stand the feel of anything of high density between my teeth.
Although I'm not a fan of system pipes because you can't run a cleaner through without removing the stem I somehow I have a couple Pete's that I am unwilling to give up..
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