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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 1, 2019 20:12:24 GMT -5
addamsruspipe..........Eric......to slice I use a very sharp Ulu knife, I find the right spot and press down a bit while rocking up and back. Usually get a nice consistent slice to rub out. Or one of my cleaver blade pocket knives with a sharp edge and β flat β grind. All the pressed and plugs look outrageous guysπππππ That does look like an option. Do you think a old iron tobacco plug cutter would work? π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 20:15:06 GMT -5
addamsruspipe ..........Eric......to slice I use a very sharp Ulu knife, I find the right spot and press down a bit while rocking up and back. Usually get a nice consistent slice to rub out. Or one of my cleaver blade pocket knives with a sharp edge and β flat β grind. All the pressed and plugs look outrageous guysπππππ That does look like an option. Do you think a old iron tobacco plug cutter would work? π With a sharp edge and flat grind that should do the job your looking for......have fun!!!
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Post by elric on Jul 1, 2019 20:22:37 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing? Just some thoughts on microwave ovens (If that's what you meant by "nuke") I've been into cooking since around 9yo. My first foray was making Anzac biscuits. Chewy & delicious. They were so good that my family often asked; 'When are you making some Anzac bikkies?' At around 21yo I was going out with a girl who had no clue in the kitchen (She made up for it in other areas, lol) & even used a microwave to boil water. She said 'You're so old-fashioned' once too often re; my aversion to her beloved microwave. So one day I heated up a left-over curry, mine in a pot, hers in her stinkn microwave. Not knowing which was which I had her taste her bowl of curry, 'Nice' she said. Then when she tried mine, she looked at me with wide eyes; the difference was so obvious that she never mentioned it again. I'd always suspected that microwave ovens messed with the taste of food but was surprised to read a Nexus magazine article that told a story of a British womans hospital experience with microwave ovens. Quite suddenly, bottle fed babies were no longer gaining weight as per usual rate. This baffled the medical staff. As it was a teaching hospital they handed the problem to the head Professor to work out. The only change to normal routine was that some bright spark introduced microwave ovens to heat baby formula & expressed breast milk, so they took a close look. What they found was that the microwaves changed the molecular structure of the milk proteins, affecting the bio-availability. As soon as they reintroduced the conventional bottle warmers, babies weight gain returned to normal. Microwaves will induce cancer, tumours in particular. - Doctors are now seeing once rare brain tumours that were only seen in the elderly, in young people since the introduction of mobile phones for e.g. - I take it so seriously that I mainly text with my mobile or use hands free. Once reading the Nexus magazine article I sold our new microwave to the MIL, lol. and will not have one in my home.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 1, 2019 20:22:42 GMT -5
Instead of using a domed cap I use 2 oak blocks that I cut into circles to fit inside. One has slightly beveled edges so it stays on the end, the other slides right in. I put paper between the tobacco and wood.
Perfectly flat all the way around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 20:31:48 GMT -5
Instead of using a domed cap I use 2 oak blocks that I cut into circles to fit inside. One has slightly beveled edges so it stays on the end, the other slides right in. I put paper between the tobacco and wood. Perfectly flat all the way around. That works great!!! I use two stainless steel plates cut to the size of the tin Iβm pressing in, covered with a clear wrap and my trusty Irwin clamps. Works out pretty good for meπ Iβve also used wood cut to size, also gets the job done right. When I press in a tin wrapped in clear wrap I find it is easily removed. Not to long ago I sent out a perfect square I was able to cut, plus a darn good smokeπππ. Looks like everyone is having funπ
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 1, 2019 21:23:10 GMT -5
Do you always break it up and re-jar it? In the past I have jarred it as the puck. Then I would cut off a piece when I wanted some and rub it out. But this time I want to slice it into something like a flake or a coin. I think my problem starts out with my press giving me a concave puck that has different consistency in the middle then the edges. The middle is pressed but the edges are still ribbon. I am going to have change the plug on my press to fix that. Then I need a better way of slicing it as a kitchen knife does not work well. π€π I've seen people use actual hockey pucks as the plug. Apparently they fit exactly into, maybe 2.5-3" PVC? I forget which ID.
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 2, 2019 20:26:20 GMT -5
Well finally got a chance to smoke some of my latest pressed tobacco. It has at least to me brought the perique more to the fore front. Prior to pressing the perique was more of a background flavor, now I am getting that peppery flavor that I was hoping for when I bought the tin. So for me this one is a success even if the puck did not come out perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 20:56:45 GMT -5
addamsruspipe.......heck Eric, your not so perfectly shape plug is not the shape you wanted. What counts more is your enjoying the smoke. Congratulations on your perfect achievement πππ
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Post by Wolfman on Jul 2, 2019 21:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 2, 2019 21:29:45 GMT -5
I'm always interested in tobacco reads. Thank you Sam
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 21:36:04 GMT -5
Wolfman...........Sam, thanks for sharingπππ. You gave me something interesting to read in a while!!
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Post by McWiggins on Jul 2, 2019 22:31:28 GMT -5
I hope you are able to report back with good results.
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Post by Wolfman on Jul 2, 2019 22:45:35 GMT -5
McWiggins, @lonecoyote and roadsdiverged. I have you guys to thank for my motivation. Itβs your participation, knowledge and generosity that keeps it interesting. That goes for the rest of you Patchersβ too.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 2, 2019 23:22:48 GMT -5
That was the coolest thing I have read pipe-wise in awhile, man. Thanks for sharing this!
Too bad I'm off to camp tomorrow or I'd be downstairs manning the oven.
I think I'm going to try a tin of Solani 663 at 220/140 and a tin of fresh Escudo at 180/360 to start.
Should be great control, as I have relatively fresh tins of each and I am also recently familiar with smoking each while fresh.
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Post by Wolfman on Jul 3, 2019 1:43:56 GMT -5
PhantomWolf Let us know how it turns out. Iβm wondering how much time it needs to settle before itβs properly ready to smoke? Everyone seems to have a different answer.
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Post by McWiggins on Jul 3, 2019 2:36:06 GMT -5
PhantomWolf Let us know how it turns out. Iβm wondering how much time it needs to settle before itβs properly ready to smoke? Everyone seems to have a different answer. Thats the fun or frustrating side to all of this. From stoving to pressing to casing, its like cooking. You can make something in your taste and liking but you gotta try small batches and compare. For me I know I like mine in the oven at 200f for 3 hours with a minimum of two weeks rest, a month being best. But thats me. I tried experiments using tiny mason jars and found what I like. If no one else likes it, fine. Im the one smoking it and Im the only customer Im looking to please.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 6:57:03 GMT -5
PhantomWolf Let us know how it turns out. Iβm wondering how much time it needs to settle before itβs properly ready to smoke? Everyone seems to have a different answer. Thats the fun or frustrating side to all of this. From stoving to pressing to casing, its like cooking. You can make something in your taste and liking but you gotta try small batches and compare. For me I know I like mine in the oven at 200f for 3 hours with a minimum of two weeks rest, a month being best. But thats me. I tried experiments using tiny mason jars and found what I like. If no one else likes it, fine. Im the one smoking it and Im the only customer Im looking to please. Agree Scott, smoke a bowl of what you pressed immediately if you like but as I mentioned prior the 30 day wait will make a huge difference. Every pipe smoker will have their own personal preference, in this case you β only β need to please yourself π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:04:51 GMT -5
addamsruspipe ..........Eric......to slice I use a very sharp Ulu knife, I find the right spot and press down a bit while rocking up and back. Usually get a nice consistent slice to rub out. Or one of my cleaver blade pocket knives with a sharp edge and β flat β grind. All the pressed and plugs look outrageous guysπππππ That does look like an option. Do you think a old iron tobacco plug cutter would work? π I have been eyeballing those for sometime. A good sharp knife works well but those old cutters are sexy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:09:12 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing? Just some thoughts on microwave ovens (If that's what you meant by "nuke") I've been into cooking since around 9yo. My first foray was making Anzac biscuits. Chewy & delicious. They were so good that my family often asked; 'When are you making some Anzac bikkies?' At around 21yo I was going out with a girl who had no clue in the kitchen (She made up for it in other areas, lol) & even used a microwave to boil water. She said 'You're so old-fashioned' once too often re; my aversion to her beloved microwave. So one day I heated up a left-over curry, mine in a pot, hers in her stinkn microwave. Not knowing which was which I had her taste her bowl of curry, 'Nice' she said. Then when she tried mine, she looked at me with wide eyes; the difference was so obvious that she never mentioned it again. I'd always suspected that microwave ovens messed with the taste of food but was surprised to read a Nexus magazine article that told a story of a British womans hospital experience with microwave ovens. Quite suddenly, bottle fed babies were no longer gaining weight as per usual rate. This baffled the medical staff. As it was a teaching hospital they handed the problem to the head Professor to work out. The only change to normal routine was that some bright spark introduced microwave ovens to heat baby formula & expressed breast milk, so they took a close look. What they found was that the microwaves changed the molecular structure of the milk proteins, affecting the bio-availability. As soon as they reintroduced the conventional bottle warmers, babies weight gain returned to normal. Microwaves will induce cancer, tumours in particular. - Doctors are now seeing once rare brain tumours that were only seen in the elderly, in young people since the introduction of mobile phones for e.g. - I take it so seriously that I mainly text with my mobile or use hands free. Once reading the Nexus magazine article I sold our new microwave to the MIL, lol. and will not have one in my home. I remember our first microwave in the 70s. We called it the five hundred dollar clock that boils water. We didn't know what to do with it.
The whole nuke the tobacco before pressing was a recommendation by Ernie of Watch City Cigars. You nuke it and let it dry out to get the extra moisture out of the tobacco so it is the oils melding and not water. Also helps reduce the expansion after pressing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:17:32 GMT -5
@acefour........Raytheon was the first to release its patents for a home-use microwave oven that was first introduced by Tappan in 1955, but these units were still too large and expensive for general home use. ... The countertop microwave oven was first introduced in 1967 by Amana ....called the Radar Range. I still remember using them. They leaked radiation like a sieve due to poor rubber seal around the door.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 22:36:54 GMT -5
@acefour ........Raytheon was the first to release its patents for a home-use microwave oven that was first introduced by Tappan in 1955, but these units were still too large and expensive for general home use. ... The countertop microwave oven was first introduced in 1967 by Amana ....called the Radar Range. I still remember using them. They leaked radiation like a sieve due to poor rubber seal around the door. Amana Radar Range is what we had! Thing was a beast and it seems a lot more powerful then today's microwaves.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 6, 2019 13:00:41 GMT -5
PhantomWolf Let us know how it turns out. Iβm wondering how much time it needs to settle before itβs properly ready to smoke? Everyone seems to have a different answer. I think I'll give it a week at least.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 6, 2019 13:01:59 GMT -5
PhantomWolf Let us know how it turns out. Iβm wondering how much time it needs to settle before itβs properly ready to smoke? Everyone seems to have a different answer. I think I'll give it a week at least. After reading a few more posts, maybe I should give it a few haha
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 6, 2019 13:38:11 GMT -5
I think I'll give it a week at least.Β Β After reading a few more posts, maybe I should give it a few haha my first batch was (I think) 50% 515, 25% Red Ribbon, and 25% Perique, all blended and stoved at 200 for 4 hours. It was SO PUNGENT, and SOUR. I let it sit for a week, and then pressed it for a week. It was still extremely sharp and pungent. Now, several months later, it's lost some of the tartness, and is a fairly good smoke. I'm not sure that stoving Perique is a good thing, and I doubt it benefits from it. The 515 had enough vinegar on its own, and I think stoving the Perique amplified it exponentially. My next plug was the same blend, unstoved. It came out much better. I still let it sit for SEVERAL weeks after pressing.
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Post by Darin on Jul 6, 2019 19:57:22 GMT -5
Agreed! Perique has little to no sugars left to react in a positive way to Stoving.
Burley, in general, is this way which is why sugars are usually added for the process.
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Post by ben888 on Jul 9, 2019 8:52:51 GMT -5
Match Presbyterian from P&C. Pressed for 6 days. Nuked for 30 sec before pressing. 3 days out of press - still hard a a rock
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 9, 2019 9:11:05 GMT -5
Match Presbyterian from P&C. Pressed for 6 days. Nuked for 30 sec before pressing. 3 days out of press - still hard a a rock Very nice. You will have to let us know any differences in flavor and how it burns. π
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Post by ben888 on Jul 26, 2019 22:13:31 GMT -5
Well... I didn't feel any improvement. Will try pressing Sutliff VaPer.
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Post by dave g on Jul 27, 2019 21:51:52 GMT -5
Very cool stuff. This is something Iβve never tried but want to.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 27, 2019 23:29:08 GMT -5
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