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Post by addamsruspipe on Nov 21, 2018 10:44:24 GMT -5
So I have been experimenting with pressing(at the amateur level) different tobacco's to see if it improves the flavor and how it smokes. Thought I would share what I have found so far. My setup is a container made up of 2" and 1" pvc. I have vice from Lowes that is rated up to 1200lbs. Since I am hand cranking it I guess that I getting 800-1000lbs when doing the pressing. The first batch I did was 80 grams of Hobbits Friend which is a flake aromatic(cherry/vanilla). I had it pressed for four weeks and 3 times a week would tighten the vise till it would not turn anymore. After about two weeks I noticed a dark brown liquid start to come out(figured that was the casing). When I opened it at four weeks I had puck that was dark brown to black. A little goopy around the edges. Did not notice any change in how it smelled or tasted when I lit up several bowls. The big difference was that once it got burning there was almost no re-lites needed. Pretty cool I thought. The second batch was 80 grams of Docs Blend which is sort of light entry level English blend(black cavendish with a little bit of latakia and perique). Once again pressed it for four weeks and would tighten the vise 3 times a week. Did not have any leakage on this one. On opening it again had a nice puck. This one was a bit lighter in color. You could also see the little bits of latakia and perique mixed in with the black cavendish on the sides. So smoked several bowls and this one was a disappointment. The flavors were mellowed out so much that you did not even get the little bits of latakia and perique that it used to have. And finally my latest batch(got pics on this one). This was 80 grams of Hearthside, another English blend that is heavy on the latakia with loose and cross-cut Virginias, Burley, and a little bit of Oriental and Perique. So once again pressed it for four weeks with tightening of the vise 3 times a week. No leakage on this one either. On opening another nice puck. You can see the latakia, virginias, burley, oriental and perique in the sides. This one when smelling the puck it actually had a more pungent smell then it had originally. So i smoked several bowls of this and had some interesting results. First off it was much harder then normal to get it to stay lit(once it was going it was fine but that took a while). Second though was while it had all of the original flavors I was used to I was also getting a sort of smoky cocoa flavor that I never had in this blend before. So I overall I would say that this press was a success.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 10:59:43 GMT -5
For your first time looks very nicely pressed. After smoking a few bowls please post your thoughts. Hope the plug smokes well for you👍
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Post by dervis on Nov 21, 2018 11:00:34 GMT -5
Looks good so far, and yes please keep us updated on how it smokes!
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 21, 2018 12:57:40 GMT -5
Looks decent enough. As said above, let us know your thoughts on how it smokes.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 21, 2018 15:43:08 GMT -5
For your first time looks very nicely pressed. After smoking a few bowls please post your thoughts. Hope the plug smokes well for you👍 I know that I sound nit-picky but pressed loose leaf is crumble cake, pressed layered whole leaf is plug.... nonetheless, cool project!
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 21, 2018 16:40:53 GMT -5
Looks great, congratulations on your success.
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Post by AJ on Nov 21, 2018 22:13:26 GMT -5
I’ve never tried pressing any tobacco. Probably missed out on some great smokes. Thanks for posting your results.
AJ
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Post by antb on Nov 22, 2018 2:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jun 29, 2019 14:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 14:09:21 GMT -5
Did you try a bowl yet, looks real good👍👍👍. Hope it’s a real enjoyable smoke for you.
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Post by ben888 on Jun 29, 2019 14:46:23 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing?
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jun 29, 2019 14:58:07 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing? I have heard that mentioned before but never understood the reason for it. Why would you do that? 😀
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 9:58:50 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing? I have heard that mentioned before but never understood the reason for it. Why would you do that? 😀 Ernie Q of Watch City Cigars recommended it to help remove excess moisture. Idea is nuke it to warm it up and then let the moisture evaporate. When it is pressed it is more oils then water being melded and the puck will not expand as much. Here is my latest puck. Did a 100g in the PVC tube that had been sitting in my outside wet bar for 14 days.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 9:58:53 GMT -5
Do you nuke the baccy before pressing? I have heard that mentioned before but never understood the reason for it. Why would you do that? 😀 I've been doing it lately. Believe it or not, it makes the tobacco more malleable, and releases some moisture/oils, which helps it bind. What used to take 2 weeks to create a nice dense puck, that doesn't expand, takes about 4 days. My most recent plug was loose Star of the East. The results were pretty outstanding.
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jun 30, 2019 12:30:10 GMT -5
I have heard that mentioned before but never understood the reason for it. Why would you do that? 😀 I've been doing it lately. Believe it or not, it makes the tobacco more malleable, and releases some moisture/oils, which helps it bind. What used to take 2 weeks to create a nice dense puck, that doesn't expand, takes about 4 days. My most recent plug was loose Star of the East. The results were pretty outstanding. Do you want to just warm it slightly or actually get it hot before putting it in the press?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 30, 2019 13:57:40 GMT -5
Do you guys find than pressing makes a large difference in blends?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 13:59:30 GMT -5
I've been doing it lately. Believe it or not, it makes the tobacco more malleable, and releases some moisture/oils, which helps it bind. What used to take 2 weeks to create a nice dense puck, that doesn't expand, takes about 4 days. My most recent plug was loose Star of the East. The results were pretty outstanding. Do you want to just warm it slightly or actually get it hot before putting it in the press? I throw it in a gallon bag and nuke for 20 seconds.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 14:16:39 GMT -5
Do you guys find than pressing makes a large difference in blends? I haven't done a ton, the most of the ones that I've done have turned out great. I find that it makes the Latakia more punchy, brightens up the orientals, and smooths out some rough edges. It also creates more deep flavor. It depends though because one blend I did with 515 was a bit more tart than I wanted it to be. Even after stoving and pressing I had to let it sit for about 3 weeks before mellowed-out.
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Post by ben888 on Jun 30, 2019 14:20:30 GMT -5
I also vacuum pack plugs right after they come out of the press. Hopefully it'll compress them ever further.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 30, 2019 14:20:37 GMT -5
Cramptholomew"I find that it makes the Latakia more punchy, brightens up the orientals, and smooths out some rough edges. It also creates more deep flavor." I'm sold. Maybe I'll watch a couple vids and hit a hardware store this week.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 30, 2019 14:22:50 GMT -5
I also vacuum pack plugs right after they come out of the press. Hopefully it'll compress them ever further. At the very least, you know they aren't going to swell from moisture in the air etc
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Post by McWiggins on Jun 30, 2019 14:40:54 GMT -5
Do you guys find than pressing makes a large difference in blends? I haven't done a ton, the most of the ones that I've done have turned out great. I find that it makes the Latakia more punchy, brightens up the orientals, and smooths out some rough edges. It also creates more deep flavor. It depends though because one blend I did with 515 was a bit more tart than I wanted it to be. Even after stoving and pressing I had to let it sit for about 3 weeks before mellowed-out. Agree with all of this. And to add that you never know the changes until you try. I've had blends change just a bit. Others, its as if they become something totally different. One that comes to mind instantly is Presbyterian. Pressing that really changes it. It not bad but its not better, its just different. As long as I have Presbyterian in my cellar, I'll have a version of it pressed sitting right next to it ready to smoke.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 15:52:13 GMT -5
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 15:55:53 GMT -5
Here's the SotE plug. It's a couple weeks old. Only pressed for 4 days after 20 seconds of nuking.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 30, 2019 16:03:06 GMT -5
Here's the SotE plug. It's a couple weeks old. Only pressed for 4 days after 20 seconds of nuking.
I added that press to my cart. What do you cap it with? Or does it come with one sans holes?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 30, 2019 16:29:57 GMT -5
Here's the SotE plug. It's a couple weeks old. Only pressed for 4 days after 20 seconds of nuking.
I added that press to my cart. What do you cap it with? Or does it come with one sans holes?
oh! I cut a piece of paper plate to fit the cap with the smallest holes, and wrap it with plastic wrap. Then stuff that in the cap.
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Post by sperrytops on Jul 1, 2019 19:00:32 GMT -5
Looks glorious. Waiting to hear how it smokes.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 1, 2019 19:01:50 GMT -5
Do you always break it up and re-jar it?
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 1, 2019 19:44:03 GMT -5
Do you always break it up and re-jar it? In the past I have jarred it as the puck. Then I would cut off a piece when I wanted some and rub it out. But this time I want to slice it into something like a flake or a coin. I think my problem starts out with my press giving me a concave puck that has different consistency in the middle then the edges. The middle is pressed but the edges are still ribbon. I am going to have change the plug on my press to fix that. Then I need a better way of slicing it as a kitchen knife does not work well. 🤗😀
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 19:57:07 GMT -5
addamsruspipe..........Eric......to slice I use a very sharp Ulu knife, I find the right spot and press down a bit while rocking up and back. Usually get a nice consistent slice to rub out. Or one of my cleaver blade pocket knives with a sharp edge and “ flat “ grind. All the pressed and plugs look outrageous guys👍👍👍👍👍
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