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Post by toshtego on Jul 24, 2020 14:56:59 GMT -5
Gottem' new favorite motorcycle want-to-have. A 1936 model, but they were made into the mid 1960s. I do not know if they were exported at all. Just learned about it today and I thought I knew everything!!!!!! Panther, 600 cc single, OHV. With a bore of 87 mm and a stroke of 100 mm, I bet it was a real torque Thumper. Interestingly, there is not front Downtube for the frame. the cylinder serves as the downstube. Made in Yorkshire, England by Phelan and Moore.  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 24, 2020 17:37:06 GMT -5
Fine looking scooter!
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 24, 2020 17:58:23 GMT -5
Gottem' new favorite motorcycle want-to-have. A 1936 model, but they were made into the mid 1960s. I do not know if they were exported at all. Just learned about it today and I thought I knew everything!!!!!! Panther, 600 cc single, OHV. With a bore of 87 mm and a stroke of 100 mm, I bet it was a real torque Thumper. Interestingly, there is not front Downtube for the frame. the cylinder serves as the downstube. Made in Yorkshire, England by Phelan and Moore. Nice. Though I would hate to have to find parts for it. 😀 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 24, 2020 21:38:20 GMT -5
Nice! New to me too.
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Post by toshtego on Jul 25, 2020 0:23:59 GMT -5
I would love to hear it run.
There is nothing like the sound of an English thumper.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 25, 2020 9:40:11 GMT -5
Sounds like a sick lawnmower! 😉🤠
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Post by Darin on Jul 25, 2020 18:01:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a sick lawnmower! 😉🤠
Has to stay on the lawn like one too, apparently! 
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 25, 2020 18:10:12 GMT -5
I would love to hear it run. There is nothing like the sound of an English thumper.Sounds alot like my dryer! |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 25, 2020 18:47:51 GMT -5
Sounds like a sick lawnmower! 😉🤠
Has to stay on the lawn like one too, apparently!
That is the way English Singles sound. I know what Ron means about the sick lawnmower, LOL! I was trying to figure out where this guy is located. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 25, 2020 19:32:36 GMT -5
Has to stay on the lawn like one too, apparently!
That is the way English Singles sound. I know what Ron means about the sick lawnmower, LOL! I was trying to figure out where this guy is located. England? I've only heard one English thumper, the 441 Victor, and it didn't sound like that. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 25, 2020 19:46:31 GMT -5
This is the English motorcycle experience. (Before the rebirth of Triumph)
I guess they do sound like that on recordings. I went to buy a Victor but changed my mind after I couldn't start it. I had seen a couple before and I loved them, but they were already warm and running. If you're in a hurry to go somewhere, get a Kawasaki! 😁 🤠
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Post by toshtego on Jul 25, 2020 20:42:13 GMT -5
That is the way English Singles sound. I know what Ron means about the sick lawnmower, LOL! I was trying to figure out where this guy is located. England? I've only heard one English thumper, the 441 Victor, and it didn't sound like that. Oh, no. There is a long history of English Thumpers. The BSA Victor is among the last of them. I had one and it was good, |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 25, 2020 23:49:56 GMT -5
Here is a video taken at speed. Sounds a little better.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 26, 2020 16:09:45 GMT -5
Here is a video taken at speed. Sounds a little better. Neat. I said that I had only HEARD one running. I am familiar with the others, the Triumphs, BSAs Norton and Royal Enfields thumpers. I would like a Royal Enfield to put around the farm roads around here, but it's not in the budget. |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 26, 2020 17:33:30 GMT -5
Here is a video taken at speed. Sounds a little better. Neat. I said that I had only HEARD one running. I am familiar with the others, the Triumphs, BSAs Norton and Royal Enfields thumpers. I would like a Royal Enfield to put around the farm roads around here, but it's not in the budget. I understand you now. I, too, would love an Indian made Royal Enfield. I test rode one years ago in Santa Fe when there was a dealer there. It was much as a I remembered. Now, I believe they are fuel injected rather than carburated. They have electric starters which is good for us fossils. Sticky transmissions as one would expect. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 26, 2020 18:03:44 GMT -5
Neat. I said that I had only HEARD one running. I am familiar with the others, the Triumphs, BSAs Norton and Royal Enfields thumpers. I would like a Royal Enfield to put around the farm roads around here, but it's not in the budget. I understand you now. I, too, would love an Indian made Royal Enfield. I test rode one years ago in Santa Fe when there was a dealer there. It was much as a I remembered. Now, I believe they are fuel injected rather than carburated. They have electric starters which is good for us fossils. Sticky transmissions as one would expect. They are just improved enough to be legal. The FI isn't very sophisticated. It doesn't use an oxygen sensor for fuel mix feedback, but it does have an "Enrichment" lever where the choke used to be. I hear that the latest transmission is much improved. |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 26, 2020 18:15:15 GMT -5
I understand you now. I, too, would love an Indian made Royal Enfield. I test rode one years ago in Santa Fe when there was a dealer there. It was much as a I remembered. Now, I believe they are fuel injected rather than carburated. They have electric starters which is good for us fossils. Sticky transmissions as one would expect. They are just improved enough to be legal. The FI isn't very sophisticated. It doesn't use an oxygen sensor for fuel mix feedback, but it does have an "Enrichment" lever where the choke used to be. I hear that the latest transmission is much improved. Yeah. They probably polish the burrs off the square cut gears. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 1, 2020 17:16:59 GMT -5
I may have found the perfect motorcycle for country living. Not fast but does it ever have traction!!!  |
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Post by SCF Dan on Sept 1, 2020 17:18:53 GMT -5
I may have found the perfect motorcycle for country living. Not fast but does it ever have traction!!! I may have to borrow that next time I invade Poland. |
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Post by jay on Sept 1, 2020 18:39:07 GMT -5
I have to admit that I have had enough experience changing track on certain military vehicles...the idea of having to do that for something I want to play with is just a bit too much...LOL.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 18, 2020 8:42:33 GMT -5
You might enjoy this photo of a "Flying Matchless" 500 single. He brought his Mum along for the ride.  |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 28, 2020 18:02:41 GMT -5
Yesterday, I mentioned in the Eats Forum that a neighbor brought a Royal Enfield 500 Single to the cookout yesterday.
I rode around the pasture in first gear. The Indians have the gear shift on the left side like with the Japanese bikes. That is highly objectionable for me. You see, my legs are no longer nimble enough to upshift the shifter peg. I cannot get my big foot under the peg. On the Yamaha 4X4 I ride which as the same gear shift arrangement, I use a rod from the shifter peg up next to the fuel tank and hand shift up gears while foot shifting for down gears. That can be done as the Yamaha has no clutch handle, just a centrifugal clutch. The Indians built the Enfield with the clutch and shifter on the same side so I cannot hand shift it. I used to reach down and hand shift my Norton and BSA when they got balky.
So, if I were to acquire one of these Enfields, I would have to switch the gear shifter and rear brake to their opposite sides. All because the Indians did not observe tradition- right side shifting.
Drat!!!! I am certain you share my pain.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 28, 2020 22:15:46 GMT -5
Yesterday, I mentioned in the Eats Forum that a neighbor brought a Royal Enfield 500 Single to the cookout yesterday. I rode around the pasture in first gear. The Indians have the gear shift on the left side like with the Japanese bikes. That is highly objectionable for me. You see, my legs are no longer nimble enough to upshift the shifter peg. I cannot get my big foot under the peg. On the Yamaha 4X4 I ride which as the same gear shift arrangement, I use a rod from the shifter peg up next to the fuel tank and hand shift up gears while foot shifting for down gears. That can be done as the Yamaha has no clutch handle, just a centrifugal clutch. The Indians built the Enfield with the clutch and shifter on the same side so I cannot hand shift it. I used to reach down and hand shift my Norton and BSA when they got balky. So, if I were to acquire one of these Enfields, I would have to switch the gear shifter and rear brake to their opposite sides. All because the Indians did not observe tradition- right side shifting. Drat!!!! I am certain you share my pain. All motorcycles changed the shifter to the left side after the US passed a law saying that it had to be that way if it was sold here. The Japanese and Germans were already using the left side shift. I remember the Victor I almost bought could be changed to the other side. Maybe some other bike. It was a long time ago. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 28, 2020 23:03:24 GMT -5
Yesterday, I mentioned in the Eats Forum that a neighbor brought a Royal Enfield 500 Single to the cookout yesterday. I rode around the pasture in first gear. The Indians have the gear shift on the left side like with the Japanese bikes. That is highly objectionable for me. You see, my legs are no longer nimble enough to upshift the shifter peg. I cannot get my big foot under the peg. On the Yamaha 4X4 I ride which as the same gear shift arrangement, I use a rod from the shifter peg up next to the fuel tank and hand shift up gears while foot shifting for down gears. That can be done as the Yamaha has no clutch handle, just a centrifugal clutch. The Indians built the Enfield with the clutch and shifter on the same side so I cannot hand shift it. I used to reach down and hand shift my Norton and BSA when they got balky. So, if I were to acquire one of these Enfields, I would have to switch the gear shifter and rear brake to their opposite sides. All because the Indians did not observe tradition- right side shifting. Drat!!!! I am certain you share my pain. All motorcycles changed the shifter to the left side after the US passed a law saying that it had to be that way if it was sold here. The Japanese and Germans were already using the left side shift. I remember the Victor I almost bought could be changed to the other side. Maybe some other bike. It was a long time ago. More useless government regulation! |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 29, 2020 3:42:58 GMT -5
Was there a reason for this intrusion into the rights on riders?
My Norton was a 1972 model and right foot shift.
The Victor was a '67.
The 600/5 was 1970. I believe that was left side shifting.
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Post by lizardonarock on Sept 29, 2020 6:59:37 GMT -5
Was there a reason for this intrusion into the rights on riders? My Norton was a 1972 model and right foot shift. The Victor was a '67. The 600/5 was 1970. I believe that was left side shifting. That was fifty years ago they have cool stuff now color TV, indoor plumbing, running water, gas stoves/heaters, and paved roads just to name a few things. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 29, 2020 15:00:23 GMT -5
Was there a reason for this intrusion into the rights on riders? My Norton was a 1972 model and right foot shift. The Victor was a '67. The 600/5 was 1970. I believe that was left side shifting. Safety. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 29, 2020 22:43:16 GMT -5
Was there a reason for this intrusion into the rights on riders? My Norton was a 1972 model and right foot shift. The Victor was a '67. The 600/5 was 1970. I believe that was left side shifting. That was fifty years ago they have cool stuff now color TV, indoor plumbing, running water, gas stoves/heaters, and paved roads just to name a few things. Dang!!! I never heard the same before!!! |
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Post by lizardonarock on Sept 30, 2020 6:50:20 GMT -5
 I like the Honda Monkey it would be a blast for taking care of the ditches or messing around the farm. Only four grand it would be worth the fun you could have. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 30, 2020 9:45:08 GMT -5
I like the Honda Monkey it would be a blast for taking care of the ditches or messing around the farm. Only four grand it would be worth the fun you could have. I have not heard of these before. I will have to check it out. There is not a Honda dealer for a very distance around here. |
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