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Post by sperrytops on Apr 26, 2019 9:37:32 GMT -5
Really loved this thread. Thanks Andy and Jason for going to the trouble and effort to stage and execute on this. It's amazing what you learn. I would never have thought John Bull myself. That's one I would never have before tried, but now am considering.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 26, 2019 11:26:41 GMT -5
Welp, Andy has one more blend to go, and I have 2 1/2, so there's a bunch more to come!
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 26, 2019 11:28:48 GMT -5
Also, this isn't just a me and Andy thing. I'd love to see some others do it too. Josh, you and Perry could trade samples! Or another two people.
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Post by Darin on Apr 26, 2019 11:49:39 GMT -5
Also, this isn't just a me and Andy thing. I'd love to see some others do it too. Josh, you and Perry could trade samples! Or another two people. I've done this in the past and it's pretty fun!  |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 28, 2019 20:18:24 GMT -5
atison, It's taken me a bit to get to some down time in order to give proper attention to another bowl of our tasting. Tonight I'm out in the shop waiting for some oil to dry, so I'm giving this my full attention. Smoking my second bowl of Blend "A" in a Grabow Viscount Poker. The topping is still lightly floral, slightly citrus. Reminds me a HINT of Exotic Orange/Passion topping, but nowhere near as strong. It's Virginia forward, but very mild, and a pleasant smoke. In the briar, I'm not getting a soapy taste, which showed itself several times in the cob. Relights have been minimal. Past the halfway Mark the topping diminishes significantly, and I'm getting some burnt sugar. There could be a little burley in here, but it's not the main player. I think I may have had this before. I'm going to venture a guess in this one: Peter Stokkebye No. 1 Natural (PS1 for short) I could be way off, but the pouch note and flavoring hinted in that direction. I did not open my jar of PS1 to see if I'm correct. Let's see if I know my arse from my elbow!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 20:41:12 GMT -5
Cramptholomew - It sounds similar to Holger Danske Original Orange.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 28, 2019 21:07:08 GMT -5
Cramptholomew - It sounds similar to Holger Danske Original Orange. I haven't had that one. It's not overpoweringly topped. You can still taste the tobacco pretty prominently. Is that the case with Original Orange? I'll have to dig out my little jar of PS1 to see if I'm anywhere near correct. Or, hopefully Andy will reply before that happens. He hasn't been on here since Friday. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 21:10:31 GMT -5
Yes, the Danske is more subtle than Rattray's. It was your reference to E/O that sparked the possibility.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 28, 2019 21:13:52 GMT -5
See, I get the same kind of back notes from Bag Piper's Dream, as I do EO. The toppings are very different, but there's an underlying flavor/scent that's definitely common to both. I figured it must be a Rattray's thing, but it's the same note that I got tonight with whatever this blend is, but much more subdued.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 21:23:44 GMT -5
See, I get the same kind of back notes from Bag Piper's Dream, as I do EO. The toppings are very different, but there's an underlying flavor/scent that's definitely common to both. I figured it must be a Rattray's thing, but it's the same note that I got tonight with whatever this blend is, but much more subdued. Jason, I know what you mean with the aroma of similar characteristics of both toppings in the blends. I believe it’s the type of Cognac. |
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Post by just ol ed on Apr 28, 2019 21:34:43 GMT -5
really lazy suppertime. 2 slices Al Cohen seeded rye in toaster. marg spread topped by store brand p.nut better, store brand grape jelly as "topper"
Followed 60mins, company of store brand tea & cookies
Ed Duncan, Batavia, NY
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 28, 2019 21:40:25 GMT -5
See, I get the same kind of back notes from Bag Piper's Dream, as I do EO. The toppings are very different, but there's an underlying flavor/scent that's definitely common to both. I figured it must be a Rattray's thing, but it's the same note that I got tonight with whatever this blend is, but much more subdued. Jason, I know what you mean with the aroma of similar characteristics of both toppings in the blends. I believe it’s the type of Cognac. I guess it could be. I never drank much cognac, so I don't have much experience with it. If that's the case, I'm probably WAY OFF in my guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 21:44:27 GMT -5
Have you ruled out SWRA? Though that would probably give itself away by the cut.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 28, 2019 21:47:19 GMT -5
It's not SWRA. This is a fairly fine ribbon, and the topping is completely different.
Edit: it does have some small pieces in it, but that's not the majority of the cut.
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 29, 2019 10:32:28 GMT -5
Also, this isn't just a me and Andy thing. I'd love to see some others do it too. Josh, you and Perry could trade samples! Or another two people. Hey, Josh, I wouldn't mind doing a trade here. Let me know if you'd like to and we could plan it a couple of weeks out. I need to get some personal stuff done first. I'll PM you. |
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Post by atison on Apr 29, 2019 12:34:43 GMT -5
Jason, I know what you mean with the aroma of similar characteristics of both toppings in the blends. I believe it’s the type of Cognac. I guess it could be. I never drank much cognac, so I don't have much experience with it. If that's the case, I'm probably WAY OFF in my guess. Lonecoyote was on the right track here...sortof. The blend is Erin Go Bragh. Yep, another pouch tobacco showing up in the blind tastings. Cramptholomew, you review was spot on. Mild, topped but in a nice way. Sweetens as it goes down. It has irish whiskey but the bigger whiskey notes don't express themselves as much as the more subtle floral whiskey notes. |
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 29, 2019 13:30:27 GMT -5
So just to let all you Patchers know, Josh (roadsdiverged) and I are going to do a trade and some blind tasting. We are going to do this in about 2 weeks. So keep an eye out (not literally) for posting in this thread at about that time.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 29, 2019 13:34:11 GMT -5
I guess it could be. I never drank much cognac, so I don't have much experience with it. If that's the case, I'm probably WAY OFF in my guess. Lonecoyote was on the right track here...sortof. The blend is Erin Go Bragh. Yep, another pouch tobacco showing up in the blind tastings. Cramptholomew, you review was spot on. Mild, topped but in a nice way. Sweetens as it goes down. It has irish whiskey but the bigger whiskey notes don't express themselves as much as the more subtle floral whiskey notes. ah ha! I've not had that one! Now I have! Really not a bad smoke, and for the price, well worth it. I think I'll pick me up a pouch or two! Thanks, Andy. This has been a hoot. On to blend B tonight... |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 29, 2019 13:34:35 GMT -5
So just to let all you Patchers know, Josh (roadsdiverged) and I are going to do a trade and some blind tasting. We are going to do this in about 2 weeks. So keep an eye out (not literally) for posting in this thread at about that time. AWESOME! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 13:43:38 GMT -5
Surprised me too. One of those tobaccos not available where I shop, so interesting to read your experience/opinion of it.
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Post by atison on Apr 29, 2019 14:25:06 GMT -5
P&C should do this with a blind sampler pack. 2 to 3 samples. If you like it and want to buy more you buy it blind and don't know until it gets to you.
Trying blends blind really does make you focus more one exactly what your tasting and strips away any preconceptions.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 29, 2019 17:39:24 GMT -5
P&C should do this with a blind sampler pack. 2 to 3 samples. If you like it and want to buy more you buy it blind and don't know until it gets to you. Trying blends blind really does make you focus more one exactly what your tasting and strips away any preconceptions. Interested on your take on #3... This will be good... |
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Post by atison on Apr 29, 2019 20:18:01 GMT -5
It smells pretty latakia heavy so it might be a while. i don't like to smoke heavy lat blends on my commute as it lingers in my car a little more. I will try to get to it though. Looking forward to another surprise.
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Post by atison on Apr 30, 2019 8:18:14 GMT -5
Had a bowl of PS Engl/Orien Supreme this morning. About 20 minutes into the bowl I was craving the John Bull again. You might of ruined me Cramptholomew :-).
Luckily I have 2 pouches of John Bull coming soon.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 30, 2019 8:53:31 GMT -5
It smells pretty latakia heavy so it might be a while. i don't like to smoke heavy lat blends on my commute as it lingers in my car a little more. I will try to get to it though. Looking forward to another surprise. It tastes nothing like it smells... |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 30, 2019 8:53:51 GMT -5
Had a bowl of PS Engl/Orien Supreme this morning. About 20 minutes into the bowl I was craving the John Bull again. You might of ruined me Cramptholomew :-). Luckily I have 2 pouches of John Bull coming soon. I'm glad for that! |
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Post by McWiggins on Apr 30, 2019 12:37:34 GMT -5
Had a bowl of PS Engl/Orien Supreme this morning. About 20 minutes into the bowl I was craving the John Bull again. You might of ruined me Cramptholomew :-). Luckily I have 2 pouches of John Bull coming soon. If you like Missouri Meerschaum's American Patriot blend, you can get a pouch of it and John Bull both for $6.99 in this deal. Damn good price for two pouches and helps to build up one's celler while saving money.  www.pipesandcigars.com/p/pouch-per-pouch/2004867/#p-2002797 |
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Post by qmechanics on Apr 30, 2019 16:40:10 GMT -5
I am a fan of John Bull. However comparing JB with others is difficult as JB is a unique blend. The nuttiness, referred to in the review earlier, gives testimony to John Bull's Burley forwardness, unusual amongst Latakia blends. This makes identification problematic, unless you have tried JB before.
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Post by peteguy on Apr 30, 2019 21:01:44 GMT -5
Add another John Bull fan here. Scrooge turned me onto it. Delightful in every way.
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Post by xingpao on May 3, 2019 21:14:42 GMT -5
Damn, now I gotta locate John Bull? Curses to you lads.
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