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Post by Cramptholomew on May 3, 2019 22:00:40 GMT -5
atisonBlend "B", first bowl in a bent nosewarmer: Appearance - chunky ribbon. Big flakes of light colored tobacco, mixed with ribbon ranging from bronze to dark chocolate brown. Bag note - a little vinegar, a little smoke. Some raisin and prunes. A hint of sweetness. First flavor impression - a mild blend, with some good straight tobacco flavors. Cool Smoking. Retrohale had a little pepper, so I'm guessing a little Perique may be present. There's some grass and hay from Virginia. Some dry nuts, so there may be some burley. I'm not getting STRONG orientals, though they may be present, since I'm getting some woodsy notes. There's nothing floral here, and little sweetness in the smoke itself. I honestly can't tell if this is Latakia or dark fired, with everything else going on (especially the nutty notes), but I'm going to lean towards Latakia. This seems to be closer to a Balkan, but it may have more Turkish than traditional orientals. On first smoke, I'm at a loss, though it could be because of the big arse bowl of Five Brothers I smoked earlier. I'll smoke.my second bowl tomorrow, but I'll make sure It's my first smoke, so that nothing's sublimated by any previous smokes... Edit: there could be some unflavored black Cavendish here. I just got a strong whiff/flavor of mild creaminess. Now approach the bottom third, I'm getting more sweetness, which is counterintuitive to most of my Smoking experiences. It seems the Virginias are coming out. A little more floral too, so I suspect I'm hitting some orientals. This is an interesting blend. It seems there's a different flavor profile every step down. If there was burley before, it's hardly present now. I don't want to be wrong, but I think I'm definitely getting a small blast of Perique as well. Huh. What the heck is this? More to come tomorrow...
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Post by atison on May 4, 2019 5:13:14 GMT -5
This is a tough one but Your nailing it.
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Post by bouwser on May 5, 2019 6:41:38 GMT -5
This is pretty fun. As I read the reviews I too am trying to guess the blend based on what I’ve tried. Anyone else playing “fantasy” blind tasting?
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Post by Wolfman on May 5, 2019 12:19:47 GMT -5
I'm going to attempt to breakdown three blends sent by kbareit. I've never done this before and will probably be way off. I'm starting with Sample 3, which I smoked yesterday afternoon. The tin (bag) note is sour and woodsy. The ribbons are light brown and perfectly dry (i.e. not crispy). Upon lighting, my senses detect a nutty note, some wood, sour and sweetness. There is possibly a topping. It could be molasses or rum, or both. It does not sublimate the tobacco in any way. The tobacco is no doubt burley (so far). There's also something else. It doesn't quite bite my tongue, but it's ever present. The burley burns consistently until the 3/4 mark, when it disappears. What I believe is a Virginia suddenly appears and takes hold. It's sweet, sour and very pleasant. Then it disappears, and the burley returns. This reminds me of a John Patton blend. I've never smoked it, but I'm going to guess this is Carter Hall. |
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Post by Wolfman on May 5, 2019 12:31:38 GMT -5
Yes, the Danske is more subtle than Rattray's. It was your reference to E/O that sparked the possibility. @truculentfrogs Mike, is the Danske similar to HU Bahia Orange ? That’s my favorite aromatic. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 5, 2019 13:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfman on May 5, 2019 13:29:47 GMT -5
CramptholomewkbareitJason it was Ken’s idea. I’ve always wanted to do this too! Ken should get his samples tomorrow.
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 5, 2019 13:35:49 GMT -5
atisonBlend "B" bowl #2 Pipe; Kaywoodie Super Grain billiard This time, on first light, I got hit with Orientals and Latakia. It's in no way a lat bomb, but it's present. There's a smooth creaminess, that I'm guessing is unflavored black Cavendish. At this point, I'm getting a little burley. I'm not getting a whole bunch of Virginia in this particular bowl. This tastes completely different today, and in this pipe. I feel as though I've definitely had this before. If I ventured a guess, it would be Stokkebye English Oriental Supreme.
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Post by kbareit on May 5, 2019 16:31:11 GMT -5
I'm going to attempt to breakdown three blends sent by kbareit . I've never done this before and will probably be way off. I'm starting with Sample 3, which I smoked yesterday afternoon. The tin (bag) note is sour and woodsy. The ribbons are light brown and perfectly dry (i.e. not crispy). Upon lighting, my senses detect a nutty note, some wood, sour and sweetness. There is possibly a topping. It could be molasses or rum, or both. It does not sublimate the tobacco in any way. The tobacco is no doubt burley (so far). There's also something else. It doesn't quite bite my tongue, but it's ever present. The burley burns consistently until the 3/4 mark, when it disappears. What I believe is a Virginia suddenly appears and takes hold. It's sweet, sour and very pleasant. Then it disappears, and the burley returns. This reminds me of a John Patton blend. I've never smoked it, but I'm going to guess this is Carter Hall. You're better at this than you give yourself credit Sam. You nailed the burley and virginia but were off on the brand. It's D&R Vengeur Silver. For an inexpensive blend it's pretty good. I have 2 each, cob, meer and briar cleaned and ready for your samples. I hope I can at least identify the players in the blends and can't wait to see what they are after my guess. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on May 5, 2019 17:13:21 GMT -5
Perry and I just coordinated ours this afternoon. I cant wait to see how wrong I am  |
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Post by Wolfman on May 5, 2019 17:18:08 GMT -5
Thanks Ken. I’m trying
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Post by atison on May 6, 2019 7:50:59 GMT -5
atison Blend "B" bowl #2 Pipe; Kaywoodie Super Grain billiard This time, on first light, I got hit with Orientals and Latakia. It's in no way a lat bomb, but it's present. There's a smooth creaminess, that I'm guessing is unflavored black Cavendish. At this point, I'm getting a little burley. I'm not getting a whole bunch of Virginia in this particular bowl. This tastes completely different today, and in this pipe. I feel as though I've definitely had this before. If I ventured a guess, it would be Stokkebye English Oriental Supreme. It does resemble EOS a bit but it turns out to be Seattle Pipe Club Potlatch. "The ingredients include nutty-sweet toasted black Cavendish, specially selected Burley, smoky Cyprian Latakia, zesty golden Virginias, fragrant Turkish and Acadian Perique." This was a tough one for this exercise since it has almost everything in it. Makes it tough to pick them all out but you did a fantastic job of it. I am impressed. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 6, 2019 8:17:06 GMT -5
atison Blend "B" bowl #2 Pipe; Kaywoodie Super Grain billiard This time, on first light, I got hit with Orientals and Latakia. It's in no way a lat bomb, but it's present. There's a smooth creaminess, that I'm guessing is unflavored black Cavendish. At this point, I'm getting a little burley. I'm not getting a whole bunch of Virginia in this particular bowl. This tastes completely different today, and in this pipe. I feel as though I've definitely had this before. If I ventured a guess, it would be Stokkebye English Oriental Supreme. It does resemble EOS a bit but it turns out to be Seattle Pipe Club Potlatch. "The ingredients include nutty-sweet toasted black Cavendish, specially selected Burley, smoky Cyprian Latakia, zesty golden Virginias, fragrant Turkish and Acadian Perique." This was a tough one for this exercise since it has almost everything in it. Makes it tough to pick them all out but you did a fantastic job of it. I am impressed. Wow! I've only had Potlatch once. It's funny that I detected the Perique and Virginia fairly easily in the first bowl, but not in the second. The thing about this blend is the chunky pieces, so you can literally start smoking a big ol' leaf of anything in it. The components of Potlatch are almost identical to EOS, save for the addition of Perique. I might pick some up just to make a cake/plug with it, and see how everything welded together works out. |
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Post by atison on May 6, 2019 10:31:08 GMT -5
Potlatch is definitely a chameleon for me. It can present itself differently each time with different leafs coming forward more or less each time. This can be both good or bad as sometimes I will start a bowl and it just won't be what I am looking for at that moment while other times it hits the right spot for me.
I went all in on my first purchase of it as I ran across a 16oz can for pretty cheap on cbid but I am glad I did. I enjoy having it on hand.
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Post by sperrytops on May 6, 2019 12:54:42 GMT -5
Perry and I just coordinated ours this afternoon. I cant wait to see how wrong I am Indeed. My experience is with a limited range of tobaccos. I'm thinking the best I'm going to be able to do is relate it to a tobacco I have had, not so much guess the exact tobacco brand/blend it is. I'm just hoping I can detect the components correctly! |
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Post by sperrytops on May 6, 2019 12:56:59 GMT -5
atison Blend "B" bowl #2 Pipe; Kaywoodie Super Grain billiard This time, on first light, I got hit with Orientals and Latakia. It's in no way a lat bomb, but it's present. There's a smooth creaminess, that I'm guessing is unflavored black Cavendish. At this point, I'm getting a little burley. I'm not getting a whole bunch of Virginia in this particular bowl. This tastes completely different today, and in this pipe. I feel as though I've definitely had this before. If I ventured a guess, it would be Stokkebye English Oriental Supreme. It does resemble EOS a bit but it turns out to be Seattle Pipe Club Potlatch. "The ingredients include nutty-sweet toasted black Cavendish, specially selected Burley, smoky Cyprian Latakia, zesty golden Virginias, fragrant Turkish and Acadian Perique." This was a tough one for this exercise since it has almost everything in it. Makes it tough to pick them all out but you did a fantastic job of it. I am impressed. I only recently tasted Potlatch for the first time. I can understand the amount of discussion around this. It is fairly complicated. Not a strong English but many other components than you'd find in a traditional English. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 6, 2019 13:27:09 GMT -5
It does resemble EOS a bit but it turns out to be Seattle Pipe Club Potlatch. "The ingredients include nutty-sweet toasted black Cavendish, specially selected Burley, smoky Cyprian Latakia, zesty golden Virginias, fragrant Turkish and Acadian Perique." This was a tough one for this exercise since it has almost everything in it. Makes it tough to pick them all out but you did a fantastic job of it. I am impressed. I only recently tasted Potlatch for the first time. I can understand the amount of discussion around this. It is fairly complicated. Not a strong English but many other components than you'd find in a traditional English. I think the addition of Burley would classify it as a "dirty English". At least that's what I read somewhere. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on May 6, 2019 13:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 6, 2019 14:31:13 GMT -5
Well there went my idea for one of your samples you could've still sent it! It would be fun to watch someone else try to pin it down! |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 15:44:10 GMT -5
Yes, the Danske is more subtle than Rattray's. It was your reference to E/O that sparked the possibility. @truculentfrogs Mike, is the Danske similar to HU Bahia Orange ? That’s my favorite aromatic. Similar in being tasty and less pronounced than Rattray's E/O. Less nicotine though, so probably not in your zone, strength wise. |
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Post by kbareit on May 6, 2019 16:33:28 GMT -5
I'm starting out with blend #3 from Sam Wolfman. The tin note has a tartness and slight sweetness. The tobacco has dark and lighter color ribbons with a light amount of moisture (seemed just right to me). On first light it has a tartness that stings the tongue a little and then settles into some sweetness with a light nuttiness. The tartness sticks around in the background for the length of the smoke. I'm going to venture to guess this is Josh's RD blend. ( If I'm right I just had some yesterday.) |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 6, 2019 17:24:25 GMT -5
atison, get on that sample #3!
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Post by sperrytops on May 6, 2019 17:27:19 GMT -5
Well there went my idea for one of your samples you could've still sent it! It would be fun to watch someone else try to pin it down! Indeed, there would be some real humor and embarrassment on my part if I couldn't match it to the tobacco I just recently smoked . |
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Post by Wolfman on May 6, 2019 22:40:23 GMT -5
I'm starting out with blend #3 from Sam Wolfman . The tin note has a tartness and slight sweetness. The tobacco has dark and lighter color ribbons with a light amount of moisture (seemed just right to me). On first light it has a tartness that stings the tongue a little and then settles into some sweetness with a light nuttiness. The tartness sticks around in the background for the length of the smoke. I'm going to venture to guess this is Josh's RD blend. ( If I'm right I just had some yesterday.) Good guess kbareit, but it's just Sutliff Matured VA (515 RC). |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 6, 2019 23:23:59 GMT -5
I'm starting out with blend #3 from Sam Wolfman . The tin note has a tartness and slight sweetness. The tobacco has dark and lighter color ribbons with a light amount of moisture (seemed just right to me). On first light it has a tartness that stings the tongue a little and then settles into some sweetness with a light nuttiness. The tartness sticks around in the background for the length of the smoke. I'm going to venture to guess this is Josh's RD blend. ( If I'm right I just had some yesterday.) Good guess kbareit, but it's just Sutliff Matured VA (515 RC). I knew it! As soon as he mentioned the tartness. |
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Post by McWiggins on May 6, 2019 23:27:17 GMT -5
Good guess kbareit, but it's just Sutliff Matured VA (515 RC). I knew it! As soon as he mentioned the tartness. I was thinking the same thing. That 515 is sublime. |
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Post by trailboss on May 6, 2019 23:45:34 GMT -5
I also think John Bull is underrated, a great pouch blend that I would be happy to see in a drugstore if I forgot my tobacco at home as opposed to the usual pouch blends.
A very pleasant English blend that is light enough to not be lay bombed, enough to know you are smoking a straight tobacco.
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Post by Wolfman on May 7, 2019 10:16:49 GMT -5
I need to try John Bull. I’m going to smoke one of the other blends today and attempt to figure out what it is I’m smoking. I’m really enjoying this. Great idea.
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Post by atison on May 7, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -5
atison , get on that sample #3! Was traveling all weekend but it is a beautiful day here in Cincy so I might fire it up on the back patio later. |
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Post by kbareit on May 7, 2019 14:23:57 GMT -5
I'm starting out with blend #3 from Sam Wolfman . The tin note has a tartness and slight sweetness. The tobacco has dark and lighter color ribbons with a light amount of moisture (seemed just right to me). On first light it has a tartness that stings the tongue a little and then settles into some sweetness with a light nuttiness. The tartness sticks around in the background for the length of the smoke. I'm going to venture to guess this is Josh's RD blend. ( If I'm right I just had some yesterday.) Good guess kbareit , but it's just Sutliff Matured VA (515 RC). I did think that after I posted it. I just haven't had the 515 straight and fell into the trap. I'm going to have second smokes of the other two tonight to see if I can narrow down some of the flavors. |
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