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Post by herman on May 28, 2019 11:07:21 GMT -5
Hi all; just to let all of you fine people know, if the doc. wants you to take morphine or fential patches, don't. I am going thou withdrawal now and its not fun. If you look it up Ive had every symptom except vomiting. The reason I took it was because of my chronic pain. The drugs did not help, so I guess I have to live with it Thats all for now. Herman
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 11:17:11 GMT -5
I understand your feeling herman, however some pain is intractable and is constant, as is mine. I've been on morphine at a high stage for over 10 years...my body has acclimated to it and my activities are unimpaired. Your particular situation may be such that you don't need that specific medication...but not everybody is you, so please don't be suggesting medical advice for others...that is a decision between them and their physician.
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Post by toshtego on May 28, 2019 12:13:10 GMT -5
I had a couple of days of morphine following surgery years ago. I asked the nurse to stop fearing what you wrote. Last November I was in our ER in severe pain and given two doses of M. They are far more careful with it than back in the 1970s.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 12:14:02 GMT -5
Herman, feel better real soon. Hope one of your doctors figure out soon what proper medication you should be on!
I’m on fentanyl patches now for a few months, helps somewhat in conjunction with my other meds, but what I too read it’s a drug I’ll be staying on at a low dose. Definitely something I was concerned about if one of my doctors wanted me off the patch.......bad withdrawal.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 12:18:36 GMT -5
Fentanyl is a real bear to come off of...if you are on a permanent Rx then it doesn't make any difference as you will never be without the pain med...at least as long as you are on the up side of the dirt nap.
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Post by bambooshank on May 28, 2019 14:09:50 GMT -5
Was only on Morphine once back after knee surgery, woke up in recovery with a plethora of nurses hanging over me and working on me. Asked what was going on and was told by one of the nurses I was having an allergic reaction to the Morphine, since I couldn’t do anything about it I went back to sleep. Hope you get relief from the withdrawals.
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Post by toshtego on May 28, 2019 15:12:55 GMT -5
I had a complicated emergency appendectomy. Waking after, the incision was mighty sore. Morphine most welcome. But, after a day and a night every three hours an injection, no more. I just toughed it out and came out ok. Some pain is easier to take than others.
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Post by headrott on May 28, 2019 15:33:14 GMT -5
Never used Fential patches, but the one (first) time I was given Morphine (for a dislocated shoulder), I discovered I was allergic to it, and my throat closed off and I passed out......
I never plan on taking it again, needless to say.
I am sorry Herman, that you are going through withdraws, and as much so, that the Morphine (and Fential patches) didn't even work. Stay strong my friend, and get through this $**t.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 28, 2019 16:29:46 GMT -5
Sorry to read that, buddy. I don't think I've ever had morphine. I've taken codeine a load of times and it's never been an issue.
I didn't even feel any high from it and I was on the max dose allowed here.
I hope I'll never be in enough pain to need morphine, but if I do need it, I'll bear your post in mind.
I hope you pain eases though.
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Post by kxg on May 28, 2019 16:44:05 GMT -5
Had morphine once, after a hemorrhoidectomy 20 years ago or so. It worked for the pain, however I wasn't thinking too clearly and escaped the hospital in my hospital gown and with my IV cart in tow. It was a lovely spring day, as I remember, so I sat outside the ER on a nice bench for a half hour or so, then wandered back in and up to my room. When I commented to the nurse what a fine day it was, he asked me how I knew that. When I reported my wanderings, he blanched and instructed me to tell no one. I think I was off the morphine the next day or two.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 28, 2019 19:00:37 GMT -5
Morphine is a gift from G-d when it's needed, but it demands respect. I have been grateful for it several times in my life. I was most grateful for it when my mom was dying of incurable cancer. We had to increase the dose every day, but she was lucid and only in slight pain until the end. I am sorry for what you are going through. These meds aren't for long term use. I will pray for you to have strength to get through this.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 19:11:10 GMT -5
Morphine is a gift from G-d when it's needed, but it demands respect. I have been grateful for it several times in my life. I was most grateful for it when my mom was dying of incurable cancer. We had to increase the dose every day, but she was lucid and only in slight pain until the end. I am sorry for what you are going through. These meds aren't for long term use. I will pray for you to have strength to get through this. Ron...not to get into a debate with you, but to clarify your statement...if you have intractable pain that does not ever go away, as I do with bone on bone grinding in my back, that is when it is used...exactly, for long term use. I have to take 300 mg. per day to be able to move, to be able to walk a short distance. Lesser narcotics are used for temporary issues...morphine is used for long term permanent issues...such as what your mother went through...as what I have to deal with daily for the rest of my life however long that may be. My next step may have to be fentanyl..although I am fighting that because of the copay each month is ridiculous. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 28, 2019 19:17:01 GMT -5
Morphine is a gift from G-d when it's needed, but it demands respect. I have been grateful for it several times in my life. I was most grateful for it when my mom was dying of incurable cancer. We had to increase the dose every day, but she was lucid and only in slight pain until the end. I am sorry for what you are going through. These meds aren't for long term use. I will pray for you to have strength to get through this. Ron...not to get into a debate with you, but to clarify your statement...if you have intractable pain that does not ever go away, as I do with bone on bone grinding in my back, that is when it is used...exactly, for long term use. I have to take 300 mg. per day to be able to move, to be able to walk a short distance. Lesser narcotics are used for temporary issues...morphine is used for long term permanent issues...such as what your mother went through...as what I have to deal with daily for the rest of my life however long that may be. My next step may have to be fentanyl..although I am fighting that because of the copay each month is ridiculous. I didn't intend to dismiss your need. I believe that they become less effective the longer you take them is what I meant. Hence the need to move on to Fentanyl. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 19:50:15 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying...and yes, at some point in time, I, too, will have to move on to some more effective method of treating this permanent situation. My age prohibits additional surgery, there is no corrective method available regardless of cost, surgeons refuse to deal with failed back surgeries, they just continue to treat the pain, with stronger and stronger medications and hopefully you will die before you become a zombie.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 21:00:39 GMT -5
We are seeing the I need drugs for pain epidemic in America as we speak. The reality is those that need them can not get them because of those who abuse them. The longer you take anything the less effective it is. Doctors are less likely to prescribe pain medicine these days even when the condition justifies it. Age is not a factor for surgery however money and overall health are. Case in point I wanted to have some steel plates removed this a elective surgery and not covered cost would be over 250 thousand so they remain. Anyone on pain management needs to understand the devastating effects narcotics have on the body. I choose not to take them and do the best I can.
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Post by PhantomWolf on May 28, 2019 21:08:30 GMT -5
I feel for ya, man. I refuse pain meds beyond ibuprofen, because I'm afraid that I may not be strong enough to bounce back. I've seen a lot of friends go through this. The VA loves to issue pills.
Best wishes.
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Post by trailboss on May 29, 2019 0:45:22 GMT -5
I get Herman's take on it Walt...if you don't need to go there, don't go there...he hit a rough patch of road and was warning of the bridge being out ahead... I surely don't want to end up on that rough patch. I took it as a cautionary warning.
Your point is valid nonetheless....tough times call for tough measures.
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Post by trailboss on May 29, 2019 1:45:42 GMT -5
I feel for ya, man. I refuse pain meds beyond ibuprofen, because I'm afraid that I may not be strong enough to bounce back. I've seen a lot of friends go through this. The VA loves to issue pills. Best wishes. I hear ya bro... Two Barneys and a Pebble for me.  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 29, 2019 5:57:55 GMT -5
Wish I could go that route...unfortunately bone on bone in my vertebrae...anything less than morphine leaves me in screaming pain constantly...so it is what it is. A bitch, but I earned it all with stupid s h i t all my life. Now I pay...we all got to pay at some point. Glad I'm still around however long that may be.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 9:24:00 GMT -5
I get Herman's take on it Walt...if you don't need to go there, don't go there...he hit a rough patch of road and was warning of the bridge being out ahead... I surely don't want to end up on that rough patch. I took it as a cautionary warning. Your point is valid nonetheless....tough times call for tough measures. , I also took the OPs words as a warning. As you know I use to drive across the State of Arizona transporting people to and from Pain Management facility's. Doing this I saw all kind of people in different degrees of addiction. They all had one thing in common their addiction was a result of their actions and choices. With my chronic lumbar back pain, shoulder pain, leg and hip pain. And the pain caused by gout. I choose not to consume, inject, inhale, swallow pain medications other than 600mg, 800mg Motrin tablets as needed. Also if I am having a bad day I try my best not to Whine and Cry about it. I try to work though the day. I have found that getting out in the yard or shop get my mind off the pain and then I can relax a bit. Now to look at another point of view instead of taking pain medications the use is a 30 pack and a 1/5 of vodka, gin, bourbon, whiskey would also help. Along the same lines a gallon or two of wine a day will also help with pain management. TB have a safe day See you I on the 8th |
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Post by herman on May 29, 2019 10:41:48 GMT -5
Hi all again; I am sorry that I sounded mad, it might be the lack of sleep and all the other things that are going on with my body. I feel your pain Pepsid for I am in the same boat. I'm 72 and have had 5 total hip replacements. The docs. say that if one goes or brakes I will be in a wheel chair for the rest of my life whats left of it. So again I say i am sorry I started this thread. Every body have a good day .Herman
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 11:57:52 GMT -5
Hi all again; I am sorry that I sounded mad, it might be the lack of sleep and all the other things that are going on with my body. I feel your pain Pepsid for I am in the same boat. I'm 72 and have had 5 total hip replacements. The docs. say that if one goes or brakes I will be in a wheel chair for the rest of my life whats left of it. So again I say i am sorry I started this thread. Every body have a good day .Herman Nothing to be ashamed of, glad you started this thread. Gave many a place to vent concerning the pain they too go through on a daily basis. Hope your feeling somewhat better today 👍 |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 29, 2019 12:12:09 GMT -5
Hi all again; I am sorry that I sounded mad, it might be the lack of sleep and all the other things that are going on with my body. I feel your pain Pepsid for I am in the same boat. I'm 72 and have had 5 total hip replacements. The docs. say that if one goes or brakes I will be in a wheel chair for the rest of my life whats left of it. So again I say i am sorry I started this thread. Every body have a good day .Herman Sorry about your pain, Herman...5 total hip replacements...you're a better man than me...don"t know if I could have stood that and the accompanying procedures. The wheelchair is in my future also...trying like hell not to get that bad off, but fortunately the pain meds help with every day movement...old folks pay the price of our youth...can't imagine what it was like for old people 60 years ago. At 76 I'm hoping that I'm not put in the position of having to spend what little life I have in a wheelchair...not sure I could deal with that. I'm glad that you started this thread, as Ted said it is good to be able to vent a little and see what others have to put up with...I consider myself fortunate, I've got a really good compassionate Dr. He is the only reason I don't move up to Ky....can't take the Dr. with me. On a side note, when we had to take our lil girl dog to a vet up in Ky....turns out the vet went to school with her vet down here in Fl....some call it a coincidence...I call it Him looking out for her and she is the light of our life. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 12:15:20 GMT -5
Yep no problem Herman post away.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 29, 2019 12:40:56 GMT -5
I get Herman's take on it Walt...if you don't need to go there, don't go there...he hit a rough patch of road and was warning of the bridge being out ahead... I surely don't want to end up on that rough patch. I took it as a cautionary warning. Your point is valid nonetheless....tough times call for tough measures. , I also took the OPs words as a warning. As you know I use to drive across the State of Arizona transporting people to and from Pain Management facility's. Doing this I saw all kind of people in different degrees of addiction. They all had one thing in common their addiction was a result of their actions and choices. With my chronic lumbar back pain, shoulder pain, leg and hip pain. And the pain caused by gout. I choose not to consume, inject, inhale, swallow pain medications other than 600mg, 800mg Motrin tablets as needed. Also if I am having a bad day I try my best not to Whine and Cry about it. I try to work though the day. I have found that getting out in the yard or shop get my mind off the pain and then I can relax a bit. Now to look at another point of view instead of taking pain medications the use is a 30 pack and a 1/5 of vodka, gin, bourbon, whiskey would also help. Along the same lines a gallon or two of wine a day will also help with pain management. TB have a safe day See you I on the 8th I had a lot of pain caused by statins and I took a lot of Motrin over several years. It ruined my kidneys. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 30, 2019 5:08:05 GMT -5
Hi all again; I am sorry that I sounded mad, it might be the lack of sleep and all the other things that are going on with my body. I feel your pain Pepsid for I am in the same boat. I'm 72 and have had 5 total hip replacements. The docs. say that if one goes or brakes I will be in a wheel chair for the rest of my life whats left of it. So again I say i am sorry I started this thread. Every body have a good day .Herman No need to apologise, buddy. It's good to share these things. I think morphine for end-of-life pain relief is a good thing - there's not need to come off it and suffer accordingly. |
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Post by kbareit on May 30, 2019 5:27:49 GMT -5
I have to start pain management for my back and neck and made it clear I don't want morphine or opioids because of my issues with alcohol. My doc is going the route of steroids for a year along with physical therapy and if things calm down enough chiropractic.
When my mother had heart surgery she told the docs not to give her morphine because my grandfather had a bad reaction to it when it was given to him. They gave it to her anyways and almost killed her 5 times. I had to get a lawyer to draft a letter to the idiots that if they gave it to her again there would be a lawsuit for malpractice. I had her form included that stated she was allergic to morphine.
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Post by monbla256 on May 31, 2019 0:28:10 GMT -5
I was a Hospital Corpsman attached to the Marines at the University of Vietnam and that's all we carried for pain other than aspirin in our med bag in country. I gave many a shot of that stuff ! 
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Post by Ronv69 on May 31, 2019 9:33:47 GMT -5
I was a Hospital Corpsman attached to the Marines at the University of Vietnam and that's all we carried for pain other than aspirin in our med bag in country. I gave many a shot of that stuff ! That's a great choice. "I can relieve your pain a little bit, but you will bleed to death." My friend was a medic in Vietnam. His job was to gather urine specimens from the troops for drug tests. What a f*d up war. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 31, 2019 9:40:21 GMT -5
I was a Hospital Corpsman attached to the Marines at the University of Vietnam and that's all we carried for pain other than aspirin in our med bag in country. I gave many a shot of that stuff ! That's a great choice. "I can relieve your pain a little bit, but you will bleed to death." My friend was a medic in Vietnam. His job was to gather urine specimens from the troops for drug tests. What a f*d up war. Should make it a requirement that all politicians that vote for war, be in the front lines...not back at home in the luxury of peace and freedom. |
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