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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 21, 2019 7:47:56 GMT -5
So we've threads asking whether you prefer smooth or rusticated.
We've threads asking whether you prefer bent or straight or everything in between.
For the sake of discussion, here's my question...
What takes preference for you when buying / appreciating a pipe, the finish or the shape?
... Or do you not prefer one over the other?
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Post by dervis on Jun 21, 2019 8:15:30 GMT -5
Shape comes first for me. Bought pipes in the past that looked great to me but the shape was not something I enjoyed holding, carrying around or smoking. Freehand being an example. Love their look but just the bulk is not convenient in the hustle and bustle I usually find myself smoking in. Those pipes are sadly just collecting dust now, no matter how pretty they may still be.
So shape first for me. Good question!
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Post by IrishCatholicPipeSmoker on Jun 21, 2019 8:15:36 GMT -5
I look for a pipe that has a good feel in the hand and is comfortable to clench.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 21, 2019 9:26:05 GMT -5
For me, it's a combination of both. Take a pot, for example. If I were to buy a pot shape, I'd MUCH rather have a rusticated pot SHAPE pipe, than a smooth one. So, in that case, the pot shape would be my preference, but I'd be far less likely to buy it if it was smooth.
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Post by Spartacus on Jun 21, 2019 9:29:37 GMT -5
I guess I look at everything as a whole. First it has to be pleasing to my eye. If I think it's ugly I won't touch it. I don't have a preference over smooth or rusticated. As long as it looks good. Next the bowl size has to be right and the holes all align. Other than that I'm good to go.
The pipe is a tool for me. I don't spend a lot on pipes. If I break one (never have) it wouldn't kill me. I don't have any pipes that have any sentimental value. No heirlooms, no gift from a friend. I'm more of a tobacco guy. I do admire some very high end pipes and appreciate their beauty and understand why people collect them.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 21, 2019 9:39:20 GMT -5
For me, it's a combination of both. Take a pot, for example. If I were to buy a pot shape, I'd MUCH rather have a rusticated pot SHAPE pipe, than a smooth one. So, in that case, the pot shape would be my preference, but I'd be far less likely to buy it if it was smooth. That's interesting...Nothing is ever black and white, is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 10:38:06 GMT -5
For me it’s Nosewarmers, Chubby Pot, Oom Paul and the very popular Canadian. Smooth, carved or rusticated makes no difference for me as long as it’s a good to excellent smoker. What’s the sense in buying a “ real looker “ but it doesn’t smoke worth a 💩!!
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 21, 2019 11:07:41 GMT -5
Shape first. If the shape doesn't call out to me, then I don't go any further. If it does, then I consider the finish.
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Post by kbareit on Jun 21, 2019 12:00:29 GMT -5
My two favorite shapes are the bulldog and poker. If the grain jumps out at me I'll go with a smooth on any pipe if not I go rusticated.
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Post by puffy on Jun 21, 2019 15:43:14 GMT -5
Balance..How is the weight distributed .How does it feel in my hand?
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Post by Dramatwist on Jun 21, 2019 15:47:07 GMT -5
I'm partial to nosewarmers, but the real loyalty is a pipe that was given as a gift... those will go to the grave with me.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jun 21, 2019 15:53:55 GMT -5
I'm with Martin on gifted pipes. I have a few and I really enjoy smoking them. Straight or bent.
When I'm actually pipe shopping, which I haven't in a while, it's all about shape. Once a shape catches my eye, then I worry about finish. If I'm paying for it, I want it bent.
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Post by kxg on Jun 21, 2019 23:34:21 GMT -5
Shape is the first cut, although I appreciate a wide variety of shapes. I lean more toward classic shapes. Feel (if I have a chance to handle the pipe prior to purchase) in the hand, balance comes second. It’s not so much one finish over another; the finish must be done well. And the pipe’s look must appeal to me. Of course how the pipes smokes is ultimately important, but that is a bit of an unknown at first glance. So I suppose the reputation of the pipe maker plays a key role. The pipe is a tool, but it need not be an ugly tool.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 0:11:56 GMT -5
Shape partial to apple and the prince and of note much smaller than one would think. I don't care for nose warmers or bulldogs. I don't chase grain and like old estates from long gone companies with that patina.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 0:52:12 GMT -5
I choose pipes for a combination of shape, color, and finish, but if I had to select one, shape comes first.
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Post by elric on Jun 22, 2019 1:13:29 GMT -5
Shape & thickness of the chamber wall.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 1:41:04 GMT -5
Shape & thickness of the chamber wall. This ^^^^^^^ is without a doubt 👍
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Post by chasingembers on Jun 22, 2019 15:02:34 GMT -5
Shape and sandblasting.
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Post by bigwoolie on Jun 23, 2019 7:31:58 GMT -5
The overall esthetic has to catch my attention first, the combination of size, shape and finish as it comes together as a whole. Life's too short to smoke an ugly pipe. If the overall look catches my attention, I move on to practicality of shape. For example, I don't prefer to smoke a straight-stemmed pipe, regardless of how beautiful it is. Then overall quality of the piece. Is it good briar, does it have tight grain, is it block meerschaum instead of pressed? Has the carving been done with precision, care and true artistry? Then price. And that usually shoots everything else in the head anyhow. I've got champaign taste on a beer budget.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 3:17:22 GMT -5
Shape & thickness of the chamber wall. This ^^^^^^^ is without a doubt 👍 Ditto! 👍
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Post by BrunoT on Jun 25, 2019 6:13:26 GMT -5
I have big hands, so I like a decently sized bowl that I can cup in my fingers. For shape I go mostly for straight or a slight bend... whatever catches my eye. I have a couple of bent pipes, but mostly selling them off. I found out they don't really work for me. All of mine are either sandblasted or rusticated, I don't even mind if they look a little rugged. I'm a bit clumsy so it only fits... As long as a pipe has a good draw and sits comfortably in my hand, it will do.
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Post by Mac on Jun 25, 2019 18:31:17 GMT -5
About equal, shape and finish, with hand and bit feel a close third. But it can't just be a billiard shape; the proportions of bowl, shank and stem have to look right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 22:48:09 GMT -5
Stem construction, quality and bit comfort are one of the most important attributes and not so easily guaged when buying a pipe on the Internet.
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Post by Mac on Jun 25, 2019 23:03:20 GMT -5
About equal, shape and finish, with hand and bit feel a close third. But it can't just be a billiard shape; the proportions of bowl, shank and stem have to look right. Didn't mean to limit the comment on proportions to billiards. It applies to all shapes. We've seen enough pipes where the stem was too short or too long for the stummel. Where the stem was too thick, or thin, or tapered wrong, or had a poor bend. Or a poor fit between bit and shank. Some are very impatient with drilling that's not spot on, me, not among them. Type of finish doesn't matter, except I won't buy quaints. I really dislike fills. Wall thickness is not a consideration for me, but sturdy construction is.
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Post by Goldbrick on Jul 9, 2019 21:30:06 GMT -5
for me, there's an exception to almost every rule ; I buy mostly estates, but my last purchase was a new pipe...I like classic shapes, but again, my last pipe was a Nording Freehand...
with smaller sixty-ish bulldogs I like smooth finishes, same with pots and billiards, tho with these weight and balance is a factor, as I am a clencher ...not a real lover of saddle stems either, but I own a Dr Grabow Commador that's a lavate with a Glen Murry sandblast that is the bedrock of my cheaper pipes.
Like Martin, my gifted pipes will always be here, but weight ,shape ,shade and type of finish ,and stem material always come into play whenever I see a pipe that makes me reach for my wallet.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jul 9, 2019 22:46:16 GMT -5
I'm partial to pipes I can comfortably clench. As far as finish, shape, colour etc.. I can't explain it, but I just know I love a pipe when those things come together for that specific piece. May as well try to pinpoint what it is that makes me fall for a woman. haha No woman I have ever dated could be mistaken for another's sister. It's just that sometimes elements come together and make a beautiful person. Some elements I do appreciate are deep rustication, light stains with natural or honey type tones- sometimes black is nice on a rusticated pipe, and of course, eccentric stem colours like amber, pale blues or bittersweet/rusty shades of red. Stems that tend to catch the eye and really throw their personality at ya. Then again, I have many pipes that have none of those characteristics and I simply had to have them when I saw them. My SlowRoll pipe is a great example of a pipe I can't stop admiring, yet it is very classic in its presentation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 0:25:01 GMT -5
I think you have to have a strong visual attraction to the shape of the pipe first, then it has to feel good in your hands, like picking out a woman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 5:42:15 GMT -5
For me it’s well aged briar, shape and overall mechanics of a pipe.
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Post by robert5570 on Jul 16, 2019 10:19:32 GMT -5
I like several different types and my tastes have changed . If I could go and buy any pipe I wanted it would probably be a Perla Nera in a Canadian or Bulldog shape but spending my own money a Sea Rock finish on very old looking briar full of pits,deep craggy valleys, and it must smoke great. I have beautiful smooth straight grains that smoke good but I have rusticated or blasts that smoke great. I talked to Floyd from Floyd pipe repair about what makes great tasting briar and he said that if briar is good,drilling is correct,that all pipes will smoke the same if enough tobacco is used through them and they are allowed to dry or rest between use. I can say I have smoked pipes heavy then let them rest for a week or two and the first bowl after pipe resting it becomes a favorite because it just smokes great.I put another load in it and it’s still good but not as good as the first bowl after a proper cleaning and rest. Now what will probably happen is I’ll buy a few cobs and start thinning my collection. I have probably smoked out of every type of briar there is except perhaps one brand I cannot think of.
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Post by monbla256 on Jul 16, 2019 11:56:39 GMT -5
Shape & thickness of the chamber wall. This always. That's why Bulldogs and Pots are first on my list. Sandblast over smooth unless it's a full on straight grain.
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