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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 16:34:07 GMT -5
And, by all the sales, I mean there aren't any. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong, but something's up lately. Almost every sale in 2019 has been lackluster at best. Last year, we were seeing 20%-25% regularly for bulk blends, and a lot more 20% for tins. I think the last 20% was for GLP a couple months ago. Now, it seems 10%-15% is the norm, which hardly constitutes a "sale". Especially if you're not buying $100 of tobacco. Even then, 10% off $100 ain't much. I feel like something's going on here, but not sure what...
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 3, 2019 16:37:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 16:44:50 GMT -5
Trying to restock my humidor on a budget so I waited for the 4th of July sales. So much for that idea.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 16:49:30 GMT -5
I don't know. I hate "The Sky Is Falling" stuff, but if there's something to it, maybe they're trying to eek out as much as they can. I don't know. Did taxes go up for them? Someone more knowledgeable than I will hopefully chime in. |
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Post by McWiggins on Jul 3, 2019 16:51:51 GMT -5
 *insert Columbo-esc answer here* |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 16:52:56 GMT -5
*insert Columbo-esc answer here* "Just one more thing..." |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 16:53:12 GMT -5
Your right Jason, this years there has been few good sales!!! I thought for sure we would see a few to celebrate Independence Day. But, I’m wrong again. I’d say something is up!
Columbo......” You know, sir, it's a funny thing “.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 3, 2019 17:11:21 GMT -5
I've been waiting and waiting and waiting.... and still nothing. I have a list of bulks that I want to stock up on IF one hits... but 10-15% isnt going to get me to bite
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 17:24:34 GMT -5
Your right Jason, this years there has been few good sales!!! I thought for sure we would see a few to celebrate Independence Day. But, I’m wrong again. I’d say something is up! Columbo......” You know, sir, it's a funny thing “.I thought Father's Day would be a couple good ones. Nope. Crickets. |
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Post by jitterbugdude on Jul 3, 2019 17:54:30 GMT -5
The tobacco companies are making money hand over fist. Every time they get a stock of something in it sells out immediately. They have no incentive for a sale.
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Post by chasingembers on Jul 3, 2019 18:07:51 GMT -5
Sales throughout the year have been dwindling over the last 10 years. I don't remember seeing any Independence Day sales for 3 or 4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 18:18:24 GMT -5
Everybody in a hurry to spend there cash?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 18:20:51 GMT -5
Everybody in a hurry to spend there cash? Us new/young guys that need a respectable cellar on the cheap. ;-) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 18:30:37 GMT -5
Well, I remember when I was in a hurry to get a nice full cellar and made the mistake of buying a bunch of stuff everyone recommended
and found that 50% of my cellar was crap I wouldn't smoke........no matter how long it aged. Be wise and buy what you know you like
and will smoke anytime. Leave the experimenting with new blends after you feel you have enough cellared to last at least a few months.
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Post by elric on Jul 3, 2019 18:31:48 GMT -5
Everybody in a hurry to spend there cash? Us new/young guys that need a respectable cellar on the cheap. ;-) Speaking from a place where we are taxed beyond contempt (50g is $85; will be $100 for 50g by the end of the year) U.S. bulk & tin prices are already cheap. Stock up while you can people. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 3, 2019 18:32:38 GMT -5
I'm just trying to reach a point where if I want something specific to smoke, I know I have it. And also the point that if I want something new, I have it as well.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 3, 2019 18:49:34 GMT -5
Well, I remember when I was in a hurry to get a nice full cellar and made the mistake of buying a bunch of stuff everyone recommended and found that 50% of my cellar was crap I wouldn't smoke........no matter how long it aged. Be wise and buy what you know you like and will smoke anytime. Leave the experimenting with new blends after you feel you have enough cellared to last at least a few months. This seems like the best advice ever spoken. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 18:56:16 GMT -5
Well, I remember when I was in a hurry to get a nice full cellar and made the mistake of buying a bunch of stuff everyone recommended and found that 50% of my cellar was crap I wouldn't smoke........no matter how long it aged. Be wise and buy what you know you like and will smoke anytime. Leave the experimenting with new blends after you feel you have enough cellared to last at least a few months. I think I'm at the place where I can make some good educated guesses at what I should stock up on. Tastes change, so it'd be a bunch of VAs, VaPers, DF based, Balkan/lighter bulks. And, tins that I know I'd like to have more of later on down the road. elric, I don't envy your situation. And, you're right, I probably shouldn't complain. There's always another shoe to wear. |
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Post by Baboo on Jul 3, 2019 19:04:42 GMT -5
I always like the price of Daughters and Ryan tobaccos... even better with any discount offered.
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Post by elric on Jul 3, 2019 19:05:22 GMT -5
Well, I remember when I was in a hurry to get a nice full cellar and made the mistake of buying a bunch of stuff everyone recommended and found that 50% of my cellar was crap I wouldn't smoke........no matter how long it aged. Be wise and buy what you know you like and will smoke anytime. Leave the experimenting with new blends after you feel you have enough cellared to last at least a few months. Why it's wise to order one ounce to sample before committing to a pound. I've been rather lucky buying untried blends - Tobaccoreviews, our JimInks in particular, is a huge help in 'guessing' what I might like - Haven't picked a blend that I don't like yet [touch wood] Maybe it's because after initially ordering aromatics (3 good ones fortunately - Mark Twain is particularly good) I've since mainly ordered uncased blends. |
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Post by william on Jul 3, 2019 19:07:14 GMT -5
A surfeit of stock stimulates sales. Simply sayin'....  |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 19:17:46 GMT -5
A surfeit of stock stimulates sales. Simply sayin'.... true. Also, "King Henry I was said to have died after gorging on a surfeit of lampreys while King John is supposed to have fined the City of Gloucester the equivalent of £250,000 for failing to deliver his Christmas lamprey pie." |
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Post by kxg on Jul 3, 2019 19:56:54 GMT -5
Cramp, I’ve been thinking the same thing about the “sales” this year. I can’t get too excited about 10%.
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Post by McWiggins on Jul 3, 2019 20:23:33 GMT -5
No matter the opinions of stocking up wisely and prices compared to other parts of the world, the fact remains that when 2019 rang in, the sales dropped hard. It wasn’t a slow decline, they were cut to nearly nothing in an instant. Last year there were sales of 20%, 25% and even 30% off. As of this year, a sale of 15% off is a big deal and in the rare occasion when something does hit 20% or more, that product has gone up in cost so much that the sale price is the retail price of last year. Taking the time to go back to the information of years past, last year wasn’t uncommon either. Sales were good and inviting for years.
So with that said, this isn’t a complaint thread or a thread about young people ready to throw their money at any sale they see. It’s a thread simply pointing out the sudden lack of sales. It’s not just one or two places doing this, it’s everybody and it happened all at once.
It just seems rather odd the timing and how all the sales at all the shops seems to be on the same level.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 3, 2019 20:53:55 GMT -5
No matter the opinions of stocking up wisely and prices compared to other parts of the world, the fact remains that when 2019 rang in, the sales dropped hard. It wasn’t a slow decline, they were cut to nearly nothing in an instant. Last year there were sales of 20%, 25% and even 30% off. As of this year, a sale of 15% off is a big deal and in the rare occasion when something does hit 20% or more, that product has gone up in cost so much that the sale price is the retail price of last year. Taking the time to go back to the information of years past, last year wasn’t uncommon either. Sales were good and inviting for years. So with that said, this isn’t a complaint thread or a thread about young people ready to throw their money at any sale they see. It’s a thread simply pointing out the sudden lack of sales. It’s not just one or two places doing this, it’s everybody and it happened all at once. It just seems rather odd the timing and how all the sales at all the shops seems to be on the same level. this is correct, and put well. My original intent was to call this "no sakes over 15%" as strange. I wonder if it has to do with all the rain/hurricanes last year, and low tobacco yields. I thought, though, that tobacco is generally stockpiled to age for several years. I dunno. |
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Post by elric on Jul 3, 2019 20:53:58 GMT -5
elric , I don't envy your situation. And, you're right, I probably shouldn't complain. There's always another shoe to wear. My only regret is that I had never even thought to order tobacco from O/S until last year. On the down side there are so many blends that I'll never get to try. On the bright side, I'm a 'half glass full' kind-of-guy & feel so fortunate to have at least 40lb of baccy cellared. [When I first heard that the laws re; the importation of tobacco laws were changing, my gut sense told me to concentrate on buying tobacco. I'm relieved to have listened] Best of all, I've actually got a variety from which to choose, something that I did not have before. Can you believe that before last year I'd never tasted an English blend or a VaPer? With the $ exchange rate + postage I pay a lot more than you would. Having said that, a pound of Peter Stokkebye or Sutliff blends cost me less than a 50g tin here. Ludicrous huh? I'm saving money big time. So I just wanted you all to know; despite my whinging & belly-aching, I actually feel very fortunate & grateful for what I have. Especially compared to my compatriots. |
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Post by elric on Jul 3, 2019 21:05:11 GMT -5
I always like the price of Daughters and Ryan tobaccos... even better with any discount offered. My first order from the U.S. was a pound of D&R Windsail, an uncased Virginia. On sale at the time, it was $20usd. The postage cost more, lol. It's nice straight & an excellent blending tobacco. Some people complain that D&R tobacco is 'too dry' (They haven't heard of Boveda packs?) Not me, I thought it was just right. In response to these complaints, one of the owners said that he sold tobacco, not water. Excellent attitude. Moist tobacco is an annoyance. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 3, 2019 21:54:47 GMT -5
Heard it from the man himself, Mark Ryan...come to the West Coast Pipe show in November, he will be there.
Dried out tobacco and having to re-hydrate is one thing, having a tinned tobacco that is ready to smoke is another, and a hydration coin if preferred, will bring it up quickly to a more moist level if one prefers without any degradation of flavor.
Opening a tin of some D&R tobacco's is like watching a Chia-pet in time lapse, FF.
At least that is my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 10:46:03 GMT -5
Chia Chaaawia pet no that is funny I don't care grumpy you are.
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Post by clintonvilleleather on Jul 4, 2019 12:41:49 GMT -5
P&C had a 15% off sale a couple months back. I got a pound of ODF for about $42. That is pretty fantastic in my book. Companies need to operate their business they arent obligated to have big sales. It definitely beats the prices at my local Tinderbox which was a 3.5oz tin for $30.
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