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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 21, 2024 22:40:17 GMT -5
I'd very much like to have a CZ Sharptail coach gun. Preferably in 16ga., which I don't know if they even make. I just wouldn't like to have one enough to pay what they cost. They do still make 16ga, in fact they are supposed to be making a comeback. They don't make the very short shells anymore, but I doubt the CZ takes the short shells. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 21, 2024 22:44:46 GMT -5
Hey, leave his toy alone. I have 5 toys made from recycled bottles and beer cans. They are still fun. I think Rossi’s might be made from recycled VWs and old tires, so you are definitely keeping a low carbon footprint. VWs were made out of fine German steel. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 21, 2024 22:52:44 GMT -5
I prefer if it was Cylinder bore but it was meant for hunting. 20 inch for brush I guess. I thought about having the choke clips milled off. Seems more useful as a potential hunter gun with the chokes. I have a full choke for it, too. For self defense, good aim is needed. I have a fiber optic front sight. Thought about a rear rifle site or one of the modern sights. I had a Stoeger hammer coach in 12ga. I have seen some of those in 20ga, but I doubt you'll find a newer gun in 16ga that doesn't cost a fortune. And buckshot and slugs shoot fine out of IC and M chokes. I've done it. My buddy has a J. Stevens marked Illinois Dept of Corrections. Cylinder both sides. We couldn't tell any difference. We shot 2 boxes of each between us. Our shoulders hurt for weeks and we were only 25. |
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Post by urbino on Apr 21, 2024 23:36:44 GMT -5
I'd very much like to have a CZ Sharptail coach gun. Preferably in 16ga., which I don't know if they even make. I just wouldn't like to have one enough to pay what they cost. They do still make 16ga, in fact they are supposed to be making a comeback. They don't make the very short shells anymore, but I doubt the CZ takes the short shells. Sorry, yeah, I meant I don't know if CZ makes that particular shotgun in 16-ga. |
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Post by urbino on Apr 21, 2024 23:37:58 GMT -5
I prefer if it was Cylinder bore but it was meant for hunting. 20 inch for brush I guess. I thought about having the choke clips milled off. Seems more useful as a potential hunter gun with the chokes. I have a full choke for it, too. For self defense, good aim is needed. I have a fiber optic front sight. Thought about a rear rifle site or one of the modern sights. I had a Stoeger hammer coach in 12ga. I have seen some of those in 20ga, but I doubt you'll find a newer gun in 16ga that doesn't cost a fortune. And buckshot and slugs shoot fine out of IC and M chokes. I've done it. My buddy has a J. Stevens marked Illinois Dept of Corrections. Cylinder both sides. We couldn't tell any difference. We shot 2 boxes of each between us. Our shoulders hurt for weeks and we were only 25. Heh. The very first time I fired a shotgun, it was my grandpa's single-shot 12-ga. -- almost certainly from Sears -- and it knocked me flat on my brains. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 22, 2024 0:01:42 GMT -5
I had a Stoeger hammer coach in 12ga. I have seen some of those in 20ga, but I doubt you'll find a newer gun in 16ga that doesn't cost a fortune. And buckshot and slugs shoot fine out of IC and M chokes. I've done it. My buddy has a J. Stevens marked Illinois Dept of Corrections. Cylinder both sides. We couldn't tell any difference. We shot 2 boxes of each between us. Our shoulders hurt for weeks and we were only 25. Heh. The very first time I fired a shotgun, it was my grandpa's single-shot 12-ga. -- almost certainly from Sears -- and it knocked me flat on my brains. My nephew killed his first deer with a Long Tom, the 36 inch 12 ga bolt action from Savage I think. It knocked him out. But the deer didn't go anywhere. He was about 8. What fun. He was home with just his sisters and saw the deer in the yard and grabbed the gun from behind the door. My BIL was off work on workman's comp and they hunted all year to feed the 5 kids, 3 boy's. I was scared of shotguns for the longest before I shot the coach gun too much, then for another 30 years after that. I have a very light Turkish single shot, but ain't shooting any high brass out of it, I tell you what! 😁 |
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Post by urbino on Apr 22, 2024 0:21:29 GMT -5
Heh. The very first time I fired a shotgun, it was my grandpa's single-shot 12-ga. -- almost certainly from Sears -- and it knocked me flat on my brains. My nephew killed his first deer with a Long Tom, the 36 inch 12 ga bolt action from Savage I think. It knocked him out. But the deer didn't go anywhere. He was about 8. What fun. He was home with just his sisters and saw the deer in the yard and grabbed the gun from behind the door. My BIL was off work on workman's comp and they hunted all year to feed the 5 kids, 3 boy's. I was scared of shotguns for the longest before I shot the coach gun too much, then for another 30 years after that. I have a very light Turkish single shot, but ain't shooting any high brass out of it, I tell you what! 😁 I found Dad's 20-ga. Stevens pump much more congenial.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 22, 2024 15:03:27 GMT -5
VWs were made out of fine German steel. I bet some German built VWs would have had recycled armored vehicle scrap in them. Tiger tank steel in a Beetle. That makes me smile. I will say in all seriousness that people like to knock Taurus and Rossi, but I have never had a problem with any Taurus revolver I have owned and friends and family report the same. I have always heard good things about the Rossis too. Taurus semi-autos have been a mixed bag for me and my shooting companions. I've had 3 Rossi revolvers and still have 2. No complaints. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 22, 2024 20:43:29 GMT -5
Rossi's two .357s look to be well designed. I would buy one if needed.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 22, 2024 21:11:36 GMT -5
Rossi's two .357s look to be well designed. I would buy one if needed. Everyone on the Taurus forum is getting the RP63. They really like it. It's got low sights and a 3 inch barrel that makes it pocketable for some guys. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 22, 2024 21:23:32 GMT -5
I've had 3 Rossi revolvers and still have 2. No complaints. Not surprising. Yeah, Rossi is Savinelli seconds and they seem dependable whether smoke comes from the stem or the muzzle. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 22, 2024 21:28:03 GMT -5
Yeah, Rossi is Savinelli seconds and they seem dependable whether smoke comes from the stem or the muzzle. I don't think they are seconds, exactly, just a cheaper line. They smoke the same though. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 23, 2024 12:11:37 GMT -5
  Son told me they were building him one DONT know what color, saw the price and cringed, he’s been toutoring process trainees with his back trouble, his Mom and I said you’re working hard get what you want.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 23, 2024 13:01:36 GMT -5
Rossi's two .357s look to be well designed. I would buy one if needed. Everyone on the Taurus forum is getting the RP63. They really like it. It's got low sights and a 3 inch barrel that makes it pocketable for some guys. I would buy one if I could. Appears to be about perfectly designed for CC. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 24, 2024 21:36:56 GMT -5
I received the barrel from Numrich today, that is a company that I am very familiar with, but when Colt did not have the barrel, I assumed there were none on the market. (Thank you Bob!)
The new one lacks the patent numbers and the WCF designation, but it does say everything else...tried to take pictures but my photo-FU! sucks with the lighting. Stopping by a gunsmith tomorrow...I called two independent gun store owners that I know, both immediately recommended these guys...that is a good sign. wrightarmory.com/ |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 25, 2024 11:35:08 GMT -5
I wonder if only 32-20 WCF can be shot from this revolver?
A question that I can ask the gunsmith…
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Post by toshtego on Apr 25, 2024 11:43:24 GMT -5
I received the barrel from Numrich today, that is a company that I am very familiar with, but when Colt did not have the barrel, I assumed there were none on the market. (Thank you Bob!)
The new one lacks the patent numbers and the WCF designation, but it does say everything else...tried to take pictures but my photo-FU! sucks with the lighting. Stopping by a gunsmith tomorrow...I called two independent gun store owners that I know, both immediately recommended these guys...that is a good sign. wrightarmory.com/Please let us know how they did. I am looking for a competent Gunsmith. None locally. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 25, 2024 12:37:20 GMT -5
Will do! Throw a rock in any direction and you hit one here!😉
It is amazing how many firearms related businesses there are in Maricopa county.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 25, 2024 13:20:04 GMT -5
Will do! Throw a rock in any direction and you hit one here!😉 It is amazing how many firearms related businesses there are in Maricopa county. I noticed these folks are in Tempe. Almost close enough to drop in. We have a few in Albuquerque but I seldom go there. I just noticed there is one in Española who might be competent and honest. There is another in Taos but this guy is not someone I can trust. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 25, 2024 16:00:40 GMT -5
My initial interaction is less than impressive, in hindsight I probably should have not dropped off the gun.
The guy at the window was as welcoming as a disinterested toad in anything I had to say...
$170.00 for diagnosis to determine the cause of accuracy issues...I supplied the 18 rounds which are currently $1.20 per round at ammoseek. 6 week wait.
That 170 is not applied to the barrel replacement, I still have the barrel, if it is determined that the barrel needs replaced that will be 150-300 to replace the screw in barrel. (At that price, I will seek someone else out)
I need to beat the bushes and ask on arizona shooting.com, there are too many old school gunsmiths out there that do not have the overhead.
I have a milsurp Yugo mauser that needs some minor work, I paid $99 for it at Big5 sporting goods, no chance it will enter this shop.
I of all people understand that prices seem high when hiring a tradesman, you are paying for their experience and it is insurance against buggering up things on a do it yourself project...but there are limitations.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 25, 2024 18:59:22 GMT -5
My initial interaction is less than impressive, in hindsight I probably should have not dropped off the gun. The guy at the window was as welcoming as a disinterested toad in anything I had to say... $170.00 for diagnosis to determine the cause of accuracy issues...I supplied the 18 rounds which are currently $1.20 per round at ammoseek. 6 week wait. That 170 is not applied to the barrel replacement, I still have the barrel, if it is determined that the barrel needs replaced that will be 150-300 to replace the screw in barrel. (At that price, I will seek someone else out) I need to beat the bushes and ask on arizona shooting.com, there are too many old school gunsmiths out there that do not have the overhead. I have a milsurp Yugo mauser that needs some minor work, I paid $99 for it at Big5 sporting goods, no chance it will enter this shop. I of all people understand that prices seem high when hiring a tradesman, you are paying for their experience and it is insurance against buggering up things on a do it yourself project...but there are limitations. The barrel doesn't just screw in. Either you use shims to get the sights straight, or you start using the lathe, or machining the front of the frame. Then, once the sights are straight, you have to redo the chamber, yada yada yada. There's always a small chance that it will go right in. Possible with that period Colt. I wouldn't count on it. |
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Post by don on Oct 3, 2024 15:59:24 GMT -5
Picked up a little S&W Safety Hammerless last week in 32 S&W Short. I might shoot it a few times, but I mostly grabbed it because it was so inexpensive. Mine is in similar condition to the one in this image.  |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 3, 2024 16:14:47 GMT -5
My initial interaction is less than impressive, in hindsight I probably should have not dropped off the gun. The guy at the window was as welcoming as a disinterested toad in anything I had to say... $170.00 for diagnosis to determine the cause of accuracy issues...I supplied the 18 rounds which are currently $1.20 per round at ammoseek. 6 week wait. That 170 is not applied to the barrel replacement, I still have the barrel, if it is determined that the barrel needs replaced that will be 150-300 to replace the screw in barrel. (At that price, I will seek someone else out) I need to beat the bushes and ask on arizona shooting.com, there are too many old school gunsmiths out there that do not have the overhead. I have a milsurp Yugo mauser that needs some minor work, I paid $99 for it at Big5 sporting goods, no chance it will enter this shop. I of all people understand that prices seem high when hiring a tradesman, you are paying for their experience and it is insurance against buggering up things on a do it yourself project...but there are limitations. The barrel doesn't just screw in. Either you use shims to get the sights straight, or you start using the lathe, or machining the front of the frame. Then, once the sights are straight, you have to redo the chamber, yada yada yada. There's always a small chance that it will go right in. Possible with that period Colt. I wouldn't count on it. Don, that is a sweet looking Hamerless, you definitely have a good eye on provisioning yourself! And Ron, I appreciate your sage advice...Your comments make total sense from someone that knows a lot more about gunsmithery, than yours truly. I needed to revisit my comments earlier, the gunsmith may have been lacking in the acceptance of firearm practice, but they delivered on checking the gun out. There are no problems with the firearm, and I am completely satisfied with their findings..."the barrel was fine and the accuracy was completely in line for the pistol and manufacture of that era, No modifications or barrel replacement necessary" In hindsight, I am a cheapskate when I take a firearm in for evaluation, but not so much for a plumber and electrician...all three trades, you are paying for skills earned over time, and not screwing things up when you take on the task yourself without that skill set that you have not earned. Lesson learned, I had to recalibrate. I did get the pistol back several months ago, I had just forgotten about this thread.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 3, 2024 17:59:53 GMT -5
Picked up a little S&W Safety Hammerless last week in 32 S&W Short. I might shoot it a few times, but I mostly grabbed it because it was so inexpensive. Mine is in similar condition to the one in this image. Sweet revolver. I am sure you will enjoy shooting it. If you decide to join The Pinkertons you will be all set. All you need more is a Derby hat and a vest. |
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Post by urbino on Oct 3, 2024 18:28:29 GMT -5
Picked up a little S&W Safety Hammerless last week in 32 S&W Short. I might shoot it a few times, but I mostly grabbed it because it was so inexpensive. Mine is in similar condition to the one in this image. Sweet revolver. I am sure you will enjoy shooting it. If you decide to join The Pinkertons you will be all set. All you need more is a Derby hat and a vest. And a handlebar mustache. |
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Post by don on Oct 3, 2024 19:09:06 GMT -5
I’ve got a full beard now, but I would love a proper bowler hat. No cane needed yet.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 3, 2024 21:40:19 GMT -5
I’ve got a full beard now, but I would love a proper bowler hat. No cane needed yet. Bat Masterson didn't NEED a cane either. 😉 |
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Post by don on Oct 4, 2024 6:41:43 GMT -5
I’ve got a full beard now, but I would love a proper bowler hat. No cane needed yet. Bat Masterson didn't NEED a cane either. 😉 True. |
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Post by bill1994eopd on Oct 4, 2024 13:41:32 GMT -5
This is the only .32 that I have ever owned but the excessively heavy trigger, coupled with my noticeably deteriorating grip strength, makes it impractical to carry.  {Cobra Enterprises C32BR .32 ACP 2-Shot 2.4"} |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 4, 2024 18:48:01 GMT -5
This is the only .32 that I have ever owned but the excessively heavy trigger, coupled with my noticeably deteriorating grip strength, makes it impractical to carry. {Cobra Enterprises C32BR .32 ACP 2-Shot 2.4"} You could try a Beretta. They make nice small .32 and .25s. |
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