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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 7, 2019 12:49:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend any of the Islay scotches for someone who isn't a whiskey drinker. They're like liquid Latakia. Haha Johnny is good suggestion. Very smooth. Maybe a highland single malt like Glenfiddich. They tend to be piney and pear like and get softer, fruitier the older you go. It was my standard bottle when I started drinking scotch. My advice would be to get a bottle of Knob Creek, a bottle of Jameson, and a bottle of Glenfiddich 12. It'll cost roughly $100 and you can have three times the fun! written like a true Irishman.
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Post by stone on Aug 7, 2019 12:55:11 GMT -5
I am surprised by the number of people on each side of the fence: 1. Some refer to Scotch and whisky as being the same. 2. Some see Scotch and whisky the same like gasoline and kerosene are the same. I could honestly not tell the difference if my life depended on it
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Post by instymp on Aug 7, 2019 16:51:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend any of the Islay scotches for someone who isn't a whiskey drinker. They're like liquid Latakia. Haha Johnny is good suggestion. Very smooth. Maybe a highland single malt like Glenfiddich. They tend to be piney and pear like and get softer, fruitier the older you go. It was my standard bottle when I started drinking scotch. My advice would be to get a bottle of Knob Creek, a bottle of Jameson, and a bottle of Glenfiddich 12. It'll cost roughly $100 and you can have three times the fun! And then you can have a whiskey flight!
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 7, 2019 17:22:19 GMT -5
I am surprised by the number of people on each side of the fence: 1. Some refer to Scotch and whisky as being the same. 2. Some see Scotch and whisky the same like gasoline and kerosene are the same. I could honestly not tell the difference if my life depended on it I always thought of whisky as the generic umbrella term. Like Kingdom, class, phylum etc when classifying plants and animals. Bourbon and scotch are both under the whiskey category, but unlike each other.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 7, 2019 17:27:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend any of the Islay scotches for someone who isn't a whiskey drinker. They're like liquid Latakia. Haha Johnny is good suggestion. Very smooth. Maybe a highland single malt like Glenfiddich. They tend to be piney and pear like and get softer, fruitier the older you go. It was my standard bottle when I started drinking scotch. My advice would be to get a bottle of Knob Creek, a bottle of Jameson, and a bottle of Glenfiddich 12. It'll cost roughly $100 and you can have three times the fun! HEATHEN!!!!!!!! Islay is kissed by God himself!! But, the peat heavy blends are definitely an acquired taste. I agree with the notion of test bottles, though.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 7, 2019 17:29:41 GMT -5
I am surprised by the number of people on each side of the fence: 1. Some refer to Scotch and whisky as being the same. 2. Some see Scotch and whisky the same like gasoline and kerosene are the same. I could honestly not tell the difference if my life depended on it I always thought of whisky as the generic umbrella term. Like Kingdom, class, phylum etc when classifying plants and animals. Bourbon and scotch are both under the whiskey category, but unlike each other. Scotch is whisky. Pretty much everything else is just whiskey.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 7, 2019 17:31:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend any of the Islay scotches for someone who isn't a whiskey drinker. They're like liquid Latakia. Haha Johnny is good suggestion. Very smooth. Maybe a highland single malt like Glenfiddich. They tend to be piney and pear like and get softer, fruitier the older you go. It was my standard bottle when I started drinking scotch. My advice would be to get a bottle of Knob Creek, a bottle of Jameson, and a bottle of Glenfiddich 12. It'll cost roughly $100 and you can have three times the fun! HEATHEN!!!!!!!! Islay is kissed by God himself!! But, the peat heavy blends are definitely an acquired taste. I agree with the notion of test bottles, though. Lol Agreed. I love Islay scotch. I was just saying I wouldn't recommend Lagavulin to a first timer.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 7, 2019 17:34:37 GMT -5
HEATHEN!!!!!!!! Islay is kissed by God himself!! But, the peat heavy blends are definitely an acquired taste. I agree with the notion of test bottles, though. Lol Agreed. I love Islay scotch. I was just saying I wouldn't recommend Lagavulin to a first timer. Laphroaig man through and through, myself
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 18:09:04 GMT -5
Laphroaig and Ardbeg for me. Squirreling away the occasional bottle of Octomore too.
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Post by whistlebritches on Aug 7, 2019 19:22:45 GMT -5
If I'm drinking Scotch it's either Macallan Sherry oak,12,15,18 I like them all or Balvenie Doublewood,12 or 17...…..bit I'm a bourbon guy.I used to drink a lot of Blanton's when it was $40-45......but now at $65-70 I'll pass.My go to is what I consider the best value bourbon making it outside the Kentucky border...…..Old Forester Signature 100 proof.I buy it at Spec's in 1.75L's by the case(6) for $230 and some change.They give a case discount as well as military discount.....helluva deal in my opinion.When things are a little tight I drink Evan Williams BIB 100 proof,another great value...….bout $135 for a case of 1.75L's.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 20:29:21 GMT -5
I am surprised by the number of people on each side of the fence: 1. Some refer to Scotch and whisky as being the same. 2. Some see Scotch and whisky the same like gasoline and kerosene are the same. I could honestly not tell the difference if my life depended on it Scotch is a whiskey, though it is traditionally spelled without the "e". There are a lot of whiskies that don't fall into the standard categories. Balcones Baby Blue and Rumble for instance adding apple flavor and reducing the proof to 35 makes something that isn't whiskey. The definition of whiskey : "Alcohol by volume. at least 40% Whisky or whiskey is a type of distilled alcoholic beverage made from fermented grain mash. Various grains (which may be malted) are used for different varieties, including barley, corn, rye, and wheat.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 20:31:45 GMT -5
I am surprised by the number of people on each side of the fence: 1. Some refer to Scotch and whisky as being the same. 2. Some see Scotch and whisky the same like gasoline and kerosene are the same. I could honestly not tell the difference if my life depended on it I always thought of whisky as the generic umbrella term. Like Kingdom, class, phylum etc when classifying plants and animals. Bourbon and scotch are both under the whiskey category, but unlike each other. And you were correct!
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 20:34:41 GMT -5
Laphroaig and Ardbeg for me. Squirreling away the occasional bottle of Octomore too. I still miss the Ardbeg Uigeadail. That's stuff I just couldn't put down.
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 7, 2019 20:45:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend any of the Islay scotches for someone who isn't a whiskey drinker. They're like liquid Latakia. Haha Johnny is good suggestion. Very smooth. Maybe a highland single malt like Glenfiddich. They tend to be piney and pear like and get softer, fruitier the older you go. It was my standard bottle when I started drinking scotch. My advice would be to get a bottle of Knob Creek, a bottle of Jameson, and a bottle of Glenfiddich 12. It'll cost roughly $100 and you can have three times the fun! Hi Like Latakia blends, not all "Peat" Scotches are the same in strength , have the same characteristics nor are they limited to Islay . Of importance here, is the strength of flavor(s). In particular, the taste(s) that comes from smoking Barley over Peat. The "Peat" flavor(s) intensity varies, depending mostly on the duration smoked and other factors. By adjusting these parameters, "Peat" Scotches can and do have a number of "Peat" strength levels, giving one a few whiskys where only a hint of smokiness comes through. An inexperienced person might and often does enjoy these lighter "Peat" Scotches. It is here that I start when I find someone who is interested. With that said, I typically recommend a good std, not too expensive, (non-peat) Scotch for one's first attempt. Why? It is a good base point and has some general characteristics common to other Scotches, among other reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 20:52:45 GMT -5
It really just all depends where your feet happen to be on what to call it. Scotch should be barley ummm that sounds good and whiskey should be more grains and in America you have to be in a certain state or it becomes bourbon. Scotch the last stop on the alcoholics wagon. A good scotch should have Glen in the name and cost more the longer it has been sitting around in a barrel.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 7, 2019 22:22:59 GMT -5
Laphroaig and Ardbeg for me. Squirreling away the occasional bottle of Octomore too. I still miss the Ardbeg Uigeadail. That's stuff I just couldn't put down. I just had a bottle of Ardbeg. The box was so cool looking with the celtic theme, I felt bad throwing it out.
Oh and the scotch was delicious.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 8, 2019 10:22:48 GMT -5
If you like smoke, you should try the Ardbeg Uigeadail. I spilled a little on a hoodie sleeve and every time I put it on it smelled like the sleeping bag that had seen 700 nights of camping. I haven't tasted anything like it. I love Laphroaig, but I only drink it when I feel like something exciting. It's like a roller coaster in my mouth.
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Post by kxg on Aug 8, 2019 10:27:32 GMT -5
With that said, I typically recommend a good std, not too expensive, (non-peat) Scotch for one's first attempt. Why? It is a good base point and has some general characteristics common to other Scotches, among other reasons. The Carter Hall of Whisky?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 10:04:03 GMT -5
Have to say the Angel's Envy Rye is a spectacular smooth caramel bomb. It goes for $106 after tax locally.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 9, 2019 11:52:28 GMT -5
Have to say the Angel's Envy Rye is a spectacular smooth caramel bomb. It goes for $106 after tax locally. If it's anything like their bourbon I bet it is. I bought the bourbon when it first came out after reading an early review for less than $50. Last time I looked it was almost $80. Good, but not that good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 14:19:42 GMT -5
Have to say the Angel's Envy Rye is a spectacular smooth caramel bomb. It goes for $106 after tax locally. If it's anything like their bourbon I bet it is. I bought the bourbon when it first came out after reading an early review for less than $50. Last time I looked it was almost $80. Good, but not that good. If you like that, try Oola Whiskey out of Seattle I believe. I have buddies bring it back from other states for me since NC is a ABC run state and selection sucks. Oola is a bourbon mash bill and also smooth as silk and caramel finish. Should be around $55 bottle.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 9, 2019 16:17:17 GMT -5
If it's anything like their bourbon I bet it is. I bought the bourbon when it first came out after reading an early review for less than $50. Last time I looked it was almost $80. Good, but not that good. If you like that, try Oola Whiskey out of Seattle I believe. I have buddies bring it back from other states for me since NC is a ABC run state and selection sucks. Oola is a bourbon mash bill and also smooth as silk and caramel finish. Should be around $55 bottle. Thanks, but I don't buy "boutique bourbons". As I have stated before, no bourbon is worth that kind of money. I've had several and I haven't seen any reason to change my mind. The Angels Envy was good for $45, but no way it's worth 80. I also don't buy any of the dozens of Texas bourbons that carry an inflated price because they say Texas on them. Kentucky does it best by far, and at reasonable prices. There's dozens of Kentucky bourbons that fit your description for a fraction of the price.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2019 17:25:00 GMT -5
I like Everclear as a good sipping whiskey, if I want a Petey smoky taste, after cleaning my Irish pipes, I use the pipe cleaners as swizzle sticks.
$20.00 for 750 ml
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 9, 2019 21:38:38 GMT -5
I like Everclear as a good sipping whiskey, if I want a Petey smoky taste, after cleaning my Irish pipes, I use the pipe cleaners as swizzle sticks. $20.00 for 750 ml Everclear gave a friend of mine from the 70's income for life after she tried to use it for a flaming drink near a flame. She was gorgeous, from the left side anyway.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2019 21:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2019 22:39:08 GMT -5
I like Everclear as a good sipping whiskey, if I want a Petey smoky taste, after cleaning my Irish pipes, I use the pipe cleaners as swizzle sticks. $20.00 for 750 ml Everclear gave a friend of mine from the 70's income for life after she tried to use it for a flaming drink near a flame. She was gorgeous, from the left side anyway. Back in the seventies, my brother used Everclear in place of water in his acrylic? Bong....the Everclear ate the glue from the base, dumping bong water on his lap. Considering the flammability of the product, he was lucky to just get wet...but it made me wonder..."What in the hell does that do to your gut?" The 70's was a wild and wooly time.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 9, 2019 23:19:26 GMT -5
Everclear gave a friend of mine from the 70's income for life after she tried to use it for a flaming drink near a flame. She was gorgeous, from the left side anyway. Back in the seventies, my brother used Everclear in place of water in his acrylic? Bong....the Everclear ate the glue from the base, dumping bong water on his lap. Considering the flammability of the product, he was lucky to just get wet...but it made me wonder..."What in the hell does that do to your gut?" The 70's was a wild and wooly time. The boot, er, distillery says that it is only meant to be used in mixed drinks. Never drink it undiluted or use it for flaming dishes. Big lawyer warning on the label. Anyone who would try to drink it straight is a person with ancestry that defies Darwin, and the sooner they are removed from the gene pool, the better. You're brother was messed up in more ways than one. He should have bought an Irish Lottery ticket. We tried Strawberry Hill "wine" in a bong once. We were instantly drunk on the alcohol fumes. That could have seriously damaged his lungs.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2019 23:26:28 GMT -5
Back in the seventies, my brother used Everclear in place of water in his acrylic? Bong....the Everclear ate the glue from the base, dumping bong water on his lap. Considering the flammability of the product, he was lucky to just get wet...but it made me wonder..."What in the hell does that do to your gut?" The 70's was a wild and wooly time. The boot, er, distillery says that it is only meant to be used in mixed drinks. Never drink it undiluted or use it for flaming dishes. Big lawyer warning on the label. Anyone who would try to drink it straight is a person with ancestry that defies Darwin, and the sooner they are removed from the gene pool, the better. I resemble that remark! I saw my dad drink a shot of it once, but then again he was in the Army mule pack for hauling Howitzers, fought in the Korean War, and spent a lot of time in Vietnam...A really hard man... That shot really cleared his lungs, he was wheezing big time. He preferred Jim Beam though.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 9, 2019 23:28:50 GMT -5
The boot, er, distillery says that it is only meant to be used in mixed drinks. Never drink it undiluted or use it for flaming dishes. Big lawyer warning on the label. Anyone who would try to drink it straight is a person with ancestry that defies Darwin, and the sooner they are removed from the gene pool, the better. I resemble that remark! I saw my dad drink a shot of it once, but then again he was in the Army mule pack for hauling Howitzers, fought in the Korean War, and spent a lot of time in Vietnam...A really hard man... That shot really cleared his lungs, he was wheezing big time. He preferred Jim Beam though. I thought you resembled Dom DeLois. 😎
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2019 23:31:36 GMT -5
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