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Post by urbino on Jan 4, 2024 19:46:00 GMT -5
And the irony is that after the superb Hi Power (originally called the Grande Puissance, or “High Power,” only later shortened to Hi Power) was presented to them the French rejected it in favor of a smaller, single stack, 7,65. Go figger. But don’t expect good decisions from le militaire francaise between the wars. You will be disappointed. (Remember the Maginot Line!) Where by "between the wars" you mean the Franco-Prussian War and Indochina. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 4, 2024 19:56:55 GMT -5
Si vous voulez.
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Post by urbino on Jan 4, 2024 20:11:59 GMT -5
There was adopting the Lebel and the Maxim, and then a long dry period. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 4, 2024 20:43:53 GMT -5
And the dread Chauchot. (Did I spell that right?)
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 4, 2024 21:39:48 GMT -5
Chauchat
"Fusil Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG"
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 4, 2024 21:50:25 GMT -5
I was fascinated by a French army rifle, can't remember the model, seems like a 45 or 49. Semiautomatic and beautiful to me as a teenager for some reason.
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Post by john on Jan 4, 2024 23:08:23 GMT -5
A long long time ago when I a lot younger, my hobby was “Shooting Yankees” on weekends. As a Re-enactor of the War of Northern Aggression, for the south, my side arm was a 44 cal 1858 Remington and my long gun is a 58 cal 1863 Three Band Enfield. In the correct hands they are formidable weapons.
In 1994 I had a strange visit from the local sheriffs deputy at about 2 am. Since we were sleeping at the time, I went to answer the door with the Remington. Once we established the officer was real I opened the door and placed the pistol on the side table. The officer asked in a surprised voice “what the heck is that?”
I explained that I did have a 9mm in the bedroom, but in the event of a burglar coming in, if I was to use the 9mm I would shoot said perp, the bullet would pass through him, go through the wall and hit my son. I told the officer that If I used the 44 the round lead ball would stay with the perp!
My reasoning was that if it could inflict bone shattering pain back in 1858, then it was good enough for me!! Still is... 😳😁
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 5, 2024 10:11:29 GMT -5
John— I always admired the 1858 Remington. Probably the finest revolver to come out of the War. I never owned one but have shot them. Had a friend who had his g-g-father’s that had been carried in the War. It was as beautiful and well-cared for as you could imagine. Much better “made” than the Colts. As I understand it the only practical flaw of the Remington was the precision of its manufacturing tolerances. Shooting dirty black powder caused it to begin to seize up way before the sloppier Colts did. I cannot personally verify that. Interesting that Ruger chose the Remington to model its modern BP revolver after. And BTW, don’t underestimate the penetration of lead round balls. They are great penetrators and in a rifle, at least, it doesn’t take much of a charge to put one completely thru a big deer.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 5, 2024 20:10:17 GMT -5
Lets not stop here with 110 year old technology be sure to tune in next week for favorite shape and size of rocks preferred by troglodytes and what type of wood makes the best club t.o beat a non topical horse to death.😒😒
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2024 20:36:40 GMT -5
Lets not stop here with 110 year old technology be sure to tune in next week for favorite shape and size of rocks preferred by troglodytes and what type of wood makes the best club t.o beat a non topical horse to death.😒😒 Although this probably should be in the revolvers thread, there is nothing primitive about the "1858" Remington. I had a target model with adjustable sights that would shoot "lights out" and was 100% dependable. You can swap a cylinder in slightly more time than it takes to change a magazine. I guarantee it will do as much damage as a 45 ACP. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 5, 2024 21:22:48 GMT -5
Lets not stop here with 110 year old technology be sure to tune in next week for favorite shape and size of rocks preferred by troglodytes and what type of wood makes the best club t.o beat a non topical horse to death.😒😒 Although this probably should be in the revolvers thread, there is nothing primitive about the "1858" Remington. I had a target model with adjustable sights that would shoot "lights out" and was 100% dependable. You can swap a cylinder in slightly more time than it takes to change a magazine. I guarantee it will do as much damage as a 45 ACP. I owned an original Ruger Old Army which, as you all know, is basically an 1858 with adjustable sights. With 40 grains of powder, not its most accurate load, and a good ball, it was formidable. Best shooting was with 20 grains. Yes, I am sorry to have sold it. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 5, 2024 21:26:49 GMT -5
I once had a striker-fired black powder semi-auto. Three of them, in fact.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 5, 2024 21:33:15 GMT -5
People who don’t like these topics should probably just avoid them and not waste their time trying to be witty.
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Post by urbino on Jan 5, 2024 21:42:03 GMT -5
People who don’t like these topics should probably just avoid them and not waste their time trying to be witty. Not sure what gave you the idea I dislike the topic of semi-auto pistols, or of guns in general. Somebody said in the last several comments that some of this belonged in the revolvers thread. I was just playing off that. I'm sorry the joke didn't land with you, Bob. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 5, 2024 21:44:06 GMT -5
No problem. You are right about thread-drift. Often seismic.
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 6, 2024 0:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on Jan 6, 2024 0:32:36 GMT -5
Not to worry, Urbino. My Phaser is set on Stun.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2024 2:13:02 GMT -5
Although this probably should be in the revolvers thread, there is nothing primitive about the "1858" Remington. I had a target model with adjustable sights that would shoot "lights out" and was 100% dependable. You can swap a cylinder in slightly more time than it takes to change a magazine. I guarantee it will do as much damage as a 45 ACP. I owned an original Ruger Old Army which, as you all know, is basically an 1858 with adjustable sights. With 40 grains of powder, not its most accurate load, and a good ball, it was formidable. Best shooting was with 20 grains. Yes, I am sorry to have sold it. Mine took 29 grains. |
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Post by don on Jan 6, 2024 10:37:18 GMT -5
The semi-auto pistol thread is now the cap and ball pistol thread? High strangeness is afoot.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 6, 2024 10:47:07 GMT -5
A bit like that elementary school game where a whisper is sent around the room one person at a time so that “The British are coming!” Becomes “”Mickey loves Minnie.”
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Post by toshtego on Jan 6, 2024 11:33:22 GMT -5
I owned an original Ruger Old Army which, as you all know, is basically an 1858 with adjustable sights. With 40 grains of powder, not its most accurate load, and a good ball, it was formidable. Best shooting was with 20 grains. Yes, I am sorry to have sold it. Mine took 29 grains. You are right. I confused the Ruger with my Colt Walker. My memory is getting fuzzy. I also agree that we should keep the thread on track. Sorry. |
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Post by don on Jan 6, 2024 12:24:08 GMT -5
I’m just joshing guys. I enjoy seeing the banter back and forth. I have yet to shoot my 1858, but have shot one before, many years ago. I also have yet to fire my 1861 Navy Colt. I have always found the Colts more aesthetically pleasing, but the Remington is stronger, has a better sight picture and you can remove the cylinder without breaking the gun down as on a Colt. I shoot the Colt Navy and Army surprisingly well, considering the primitive sight picture.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2024 15:14:44 GMT -5
You are right. I confused the Ruger with my Colt Walker. My memory is getting fuzzy. I also agree that we should keep the thread on track. Sorry. No problem, I just mentioned that in passing, thinking that if we wanted to revisit this conversation, we would look in the wrong place. I'm not sure that affects anyone but me. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2024 15:36:51 GMT -5
I’m just joshing guys. I enjoy seeing the banter back and forth. I have yet to shoot my 1858, but have shot one before, many years ago. I also have yet to fire my 1861 Navy Colt. I have always found the Colts more aesthetically pleasing, but the Remington is stronger, has a better sight picture and you can remove the cylinder without breaking the gun down as on a Colt. I shoot the Colt Navy and Army surprisingly well, considering the primitive sight picture. Strange. I always thought the open frame Colts were ugly and scary. I would never shoot one in spite of the 180 years of evidence to the contrary. I think the Remington is as beautiful as it is functional. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2024 17:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Jan 6, 2024 18:25:28 GMT -5
This line caught my eye... I would like to have a Singer 1911, and a Luger.... I have neither.  At one time, either was a justifiable expense, but that horse left the barn. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 17, 2024 14:16:40 GMT -5
 Mag inventory day. Some always go AWOL but I’m hunting them down! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 17, 2024 14:32:30 GMT -5
Mag inventory day. Some always go AWOL but I’m hunting them down! I know that I should have all my magazines in one place, but I don't have a big enough table. Sigh. Nice collection, you seem to be prepared. What do those 30 round mags go to? I only have one, for the Camp 9. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 17, 2024 14:38:45 GMT -5
32 for the CZ75B. 30 for the Hi Powers. Those on the far right are 30s also. For the PMR-30 (Keltec).
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Post by toshtego on Jan 18, 2024 13:32:16 GMT -5
Bob, you are a paragon of readiness. Seems to me that neither Jack Reacher nor the Equalizer is needed in your parts.  |
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