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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 18, 2024 23:24:40 GMT -5
Strange. I always thought the open frame Colts were ugly and scary. I would never shoot one in spite of the 180 years of evidence to the contrary. I think the Remington is as beautiful as it is functional. Totally safe guns, Ron. The cylinder pin/arbor is huge on a Colt. They don’t need a top strap. Plenty strong for black powder. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder for sure. I find the Remington to be fussier in some ways and just moderately attractive. The 1860 Army or 1861 Navy are classics. To each his own. I am not too old to change, but I am old enough to refuse to change. 😉 |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 18, 2024 23:27:34 GMT -5
On a podcast I listen to I heard about this product that they claim should be on every gun… I see the use of chamber flags at a range with the action open and a flag inserted when a ceasefire is called. Any other time, “every gun is a loaded gun”. www.muzlstik.com/I wish them well, but I swore off public ranges, if I change my mind I already have chamber flags. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 18, 2024 23:35:17 GMT -5
On a podcast I listen to I heard about this product that they claim should be on every gun… I see the use of chamber flags at a range with the action open and a flag inserted when a ceasefire is called. Any other time, “every gun is a loaded gun”. www.muzlstik.com/I wish them well, but I swore off public ranges, if I change my mind I already have chamber flags. All my guns are loaded. Keeping it simple. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 19, 2024 0:28:17 GMT -5
Their moniker is “every gun should be unloaded, but if it isn’t you need what we sell”
Not a single self defense expert that I respect, would give that advice.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 11, 2024 18:35:12 GMT -5
All my handguns are considered LOADED. Always. I hang tags on any long guns out of a safe. ‘WARM” means mag loaded, chamber empty. “HOT” means chamber loaded. For practical purposes I consider any firearm I pick up to be loaded, whatever the tag says, until verified otherwise.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 11, 2024 20:48:38 GMT -5
All my handguns are considered LOADED. Always. I hang tags on any long guns out of a safe. ‘WARM” means mag loaded, chamber empty. “HOT” means chamber loaded. For practical purposes I consider any firearm I pick up to be loaded, whatever the tag says, until verified otherwise. I use pipe cleaners for places for places that require unloaded guns. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 11, 2024 22:03:49 GMT -5
How does that work, Ron?
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 12, 2024 12:45:20 GMT -5
It's just a cheap and handy chamber flag. I fold them in half, bend them in half and close the bolt on them. I keep a pack in my range box. This started when the local range that I went to for 50 years got all anal retentive about the rules. 1 gun at a time. Chamber flags in all guns that aren't actually on the firing line. Flags in all guns during target changes and they have to be in the rack behind the bench before anyone can go down range. Most of this is reasonable, but they have a bunch of kids that yell about nothing. |
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Post by toshtego on Feb 12, 2024 20:31:32 GMT -5
For a time I kept a Mossberg Slugster loaded with 00 or 000 shells on a credenza top with a sign "Chamber Loaded" or "Chamber Empty". My coach gun was kept loaded but broken open as S X S should be until ready to be fired. I no longer own autoloader pistolas. Mostly now I do not keep a loaded weapon handy unless there is cause to believe it might be needed.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 14, 2024 21:08:38 GMT -5
It's just a cheap and handy chamber flag. I fold them in half, bend them in half and close the bolt on them. I keep a pack in my range box. This started when the local range that I went to for 50 years got all anal retentive about the rules. 1 gun at a time. Chamber flags in all guns that aren't actually on the firing line. Flags in all guns during target changes and they have to be in the rack behind the bench before anyone can go down range. Most of this is reasonable, but they have a bunch of kids that yell about nothing. We call them range Nazi’s…I am all for range safety, but there are some that take it to a stupid level. They should look at their position as being educating people, not alienating them. |
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Post by toshtego on Feb 14, 2024 21:38:34 GMT -5
It's just a cheap and handy chamber flag. I fold them in half, bend them in half and close the bolt on them. I keep a pack in my range box. This started when the local range that I went to for 50 years got all anal retentive about the rules. 1 gun at a time. Chamber flags in all guns that aren't actually on the firing line. Flags in all guns during target changes and they have to be in the rack behind the bench before anyone can go down range. Most of this is reasonable, but they have a bunch of kids that yell about nothing. We call them range Nazi’s…I am all for range safety, but there are some that take it to a stupid level. They should look at their position as being educating people, not alienating them. Some Range Officers believe themselves to be D.I.s. I just put up with them for the day. On the other hand, the number of stupid and experienced people at the range has likely increased. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 10, 2024 17:10:45 GMT -5
Who has experience with the pistols that have the little flipper in the middle of the trigger? I can't imagine that distraction, but almost all new pistols have them, and a lot of rifles too. I can't see how they add much safety.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 10, 2024 17:32:42 GMT -5
I stay away from the little flipper guns and the ones without hammers. Starting out with John Moses Browning never lead anyone astray.
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Post by urbino on Apr 10, 2024 19:04:57 GMT -5
Who has experience with the pistols that have the little flipper in the middle of the trigger? I can't imagine that distraction, but almost all new pistols have them, and a lot of rifles too. I can't see how they add much safety. My understanding has been that the flipper adds drop safety because it lacks enough mass to disengage due to gravity. Could be wrong. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 10, 2024 19:29:55 GMT -5
I have only one semi with a “flipper”: an S&W Shield 45Auto. I hate it. I bought it for a fantastic price as a lark and after messing with it for a while I abandoned it. (Anybody want it?) I will never own or carry another pistol without a manual safety. My EDC is a Sig Sauer P365XL. Super reliable and easy and comfy to carry all day. You forget it’s there. People swear by Glocks while I only swear AT them. To each his own. For me it has to have a manual safety. Some say you might “forget to take the safety off.” Rubbish. If you are that maladept you shouldn’t be carrying in the first place IMO.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 10, 2024 20:52:15 GMT -5
I have gotten into a few discussion with tactical tommy’s that tell me that a manual safety is slower, and something you could forget to disengage in the heat of the moment.
Well maybe if you are too stupid to not practice that as part of your routine.
The same guys will tell me that if you open carry you are marked for death…. One time, one guy was able to produce a story where it happened.
Criminals are looking for soft targets.
The firearms community is riddled with some know it all/ my way or the highway.
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 10, 2024 21:11:22 GMT -5
Isn’t it funny how the subject of firearms seems to draw those folks? “You should NEVER…” and “You should ALWAYS…” Yada-yada-yada. Gun-counter gurus. I’ve been “in” guns for 70+ years and, except for some historical facts, nothing I say should be taken as gospel. It’s just what I know from personal experience or what I THINK I know.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 10, 2024 21:56:49 GMT -5
I have only one semi with a “flipper”: an S&W Shield 45Auto. I hate it. I bought it for a fantastic price as a lark and after messing with it for a while I abandoned it. (Anybody want it?) I will never own or carry another pistol without a manual safety. My EDC is a Sig Sauer P365XL. Super reliable and easy and comfy to carry all day. You forget it’s there. People swear by Glocks while I only swear AT them. To each his own. For me it has to have a manual safety. Some say you might “forget to take the safety off.” Rubbish. If you are that maladept you shouldn’t be carrying in the first place IMO. I shot some kind of S&W with a flipper twice because I didn't want to hand it back after one shot. I didn't like it at all. Also, my buddy had a brand new Kimber that kept smiling at only shot one mag out of that one because it was so heavily checkered all over, it was like a handful of barbed wire. |
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Post by urbino on Apr 11, 2024 0:09:05 GMT -5
I barely notice the flippers. But then, I'm not as accustomed to shooting traditional .45's and revolvers as you guys are. I'm probably not trying to be as fine, either.
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Post by Darin on Apr 11, 2024 6:16:22 GMT -5
Wait ... you guys want to shoot Flipper now? Run Flipper, Run!!! 😅
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 11, 2024 10:41:17 GMT -5
Wait ... you guys want to shoot Flipper now? Run Flipper, Run!!! 😅 Although the dolphin lovers have surpressed it, there is a lot of evidence of dolphins raping and murdering victims of shipwrecks. They are smart, but they don't have any sense of right and wrong. I won't be caught in the ocean without a weapon. And yes, I have spent a lot of time in the ocean. Never again. You probably won't be attacked by dolphins as long as you stay in Arizona. 😁 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 11, 2024 10:43:09 GMT -5
I barely notice the flippers. But then, I'm not as accustomed to shooting traditional .45's and revolvers as you guys are. I'm probably not trying to be as fine, either. It's a distraction. I could probably get over it, if I wanted to. The one I shot had a lousy trigger, nevermind the flipper. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 11, 2024 10:53:18 GMT -5
The reason why I hang on to my Remington R51 is the excellent trigger superb accuracy. Also the perfect fit in my hand. I continue to massage it. It will now shoot 2 magazines with no issues as long as I load the full seven rounds. Six rounds run perfectly. I figure 6 rounds of 124 grain +P 9mm is plenty for any trouble I might get into. And if I need to engage a shooter at more than 50 yards, I have the confidence to take the shot, which I don’t have with any other compact pistol. The trigger is DA/SA, so it can get off a quick double action shot, or I can rooster it for a long shot. I wish the people that bought the rights would keep working on it and come out with one that worked out of the box.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 11, 2024 11:38:59 GMT -5
Rooster??? 🤔
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Post by trailboss on May 4, 2024 19:04:58 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on May 4, 2024 20:42:24 GMT -5
If I was going to have a Para, it would be the double action, double stack 45. Why fool around? 😵💫😁 |
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Post by trailboss on May 4, 2024 21:04:13 GMT -5
Yeah the fo-tay is a problem looking for a solution.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 4, 2024 21:10:19 GMT -5
Yeah the fo-tay is a problem looking for a solution. I actually like the 40. The one I shot, a Sig, was nice and accurate with slightly less recoil than a 45, and the ammo is cheaper. My buddy got it it for cheap because nobody wants a 40. Not liking a 10 while liking a 9 and 11 is silly. |
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Post by toshtego on May 5, 2024 7:26:31 GMT -5
Missed out on Grade X P-38s from Aim Surplus. Around $350. Alloy frame, post War of course. Not looking for pretty. I would like a nice blue one, higher grade, but they are around $1,000.
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Post by oldcajun123 on May 26, 2024 8:40:39 GMT -5
  Oldest Sons newest buy, gonna shoot it today, he said they call it the 2011.
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